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Old January 24th 09, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

You state you quote facts but you never state registry cleaners are NOT
needed and can cause problems.
You also ignore the attached:

From: "R. McCarty"
Subject: CCleaner and the Registry
Date: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:05 AM

While your experience shows no damage, mine is different. I can look
back though hundreds of customer records and note case after case of
a Registry Cleaning causing machine problems. Granted over the years
the programs have evolved/improved but not enough to trust them as a
globally recommended computer tool.

Every time I hear an ad for Registry Mechanic on the "Digital Goddess"
( Former attractive saleslady ) Kim Komando show, I cringe. Even she
should know better than to promote them as a "Cure All, PC Fix'er Up'er".

If there was such a thing as a effective/reliable Registry Cleaner then I
would make use of it. I think you're misinterpreting the advice given here.
It's more of "Do No Damage" caveat than Registry Cleaners are junk.
Most people who receive advice here want a problem resolved not a
lead-in to more issues than they already have.

Most experienced technicians have encountered machines where whatever
was originally wrong with a PC was made worse by a Registry Cleaning.

Registry Cleaning is a subjective process where it's difficult if not
impossible to know what the end results will be. Some clean a little -
others do more.

It's not like defragmentation where all products yield a similar end result.
That's my main issue with all Registry Cleaners, the subjective
determination
of what is & is not an invalid Key or Value. If you load any 3 Registry
Cleaners and run the scan the results of what each determines to remove
will be different. Until someone can develop a tool that is precise and
not subjective I can't recommend anyone using one. It's an unperfected
process that has more risks than benefits.





"Twayne" wrote in message
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Speaking of a closed mind. You have been given data from
a computer repair shop owner indicating the hundreds of
computers he has repaired that was caused by a 'registry
cleaner'. Yet you refuse to accept that.


No, as a matter of fact, I have never seen any such information here.
Since you're obviously talking about your friend Bruce: As for "a"
registry cleaner causing problems, sure, that's entirely possible, but
he's never said so and never given anything at all to support his views.
Nada, zip, nothing.
I could probably download a few registry cleaners right now that would
cause problems, but ... I could also download a LOT of other programs too,
that caused problems. As with anything else, you have to consider the
reputation and history of the sites you download from. He has absolutely
no basis to state that no reg clnr ever does any good and "all" will cause
problems and "all" are "snakeoil", which by the way is one of his
plagairisms. And so on.

Are you in the business of computer repair? Is that why
you keep pushing registry cleaners?


Show me anywhere where I've "pushed" registry cleaners: You cannot. I
simply reply to his misinformational statements. He tells a lie, I
correct it. It's that simple.

Perhaps YOU personally haven't been harmed by a registry
cleaner but what about the hundreds that have?


And how about the millions who have been "harmed" by XP, or win98, or
Linux, or whatever? My long experience and related research has NEVER
shown any support for his claims and he has never backed them up in any
way.
Since I haven't had any cleaner problems on the many machines I've owned
and still own and operate, plus the many I've serviced and worked on,
without ever a single problem, I'd say that's a pretty good record,
especially when you consider the millions of people with the same
experience and who have read the same articles and white papers on the
subject.

You might do well to do the same thing yourself; gather information on
your own and learn about what the situation really is. Stop allowing
other people to do your thinking for you. Even if you believe what a
person tells you, if you feel it's important, you still should go out and
verify/clarify it for yourself. I imagine you're too lazy to do that and
need everything handed to you, but you would come away from the experience
with a new appreciation for software authors and what they can accomplish
when they create well written, well planned and executed code, of which
several registry cleaners and other programs show.
A few years back when I first came across Brucie I thought he might be
on to something. But his refusal to support any of his claims even that
far back, and his increasing vehemence on the subject opened the doors for
me to recheck a lot of my prior information and, when compared to my own
and several other's experiences, he came off as a simple, purposely
ignorant closed mind who probably had ONE problem with ONE registry
cleaner and decided that they all were bad. His only purpose is vengence,
not to expose any relevant, true information. So as long as he keeps
posting his erroneous crap and if I come across it, I will expose it for
the junk information it is and the ignorant that he is.

So, I'm happy to say that now, since people are almost afraid to mention a
registry cleaner here, they then will not be subjected to his trash, and
if they are, and he does it here or wherever I might come across him, I'll
continue to expose him.

You probably think this is a lot of text for such a minor subject, but
it's not. I'm a touch typist and spit these things out quickly, nearly as
fast as I think the words. It's to the point now where I actually enjoy
exposing his misinformation so it's not a job at all, but rather a labor
of love to see that accurate informaiton is protrayed here.

Cheers sock,

Twayne


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
Sage - John Leonard wrote:
Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will
work with Vista and XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx

lol, I KNEW the droids with the closed minds, nothing to
back up their claims and misinformation would have to
crawl out of the woodwork for this one and there it is. This is the one
that keeps saying not to use a program
written by someone who knows the registry and how to
program, and instead use regedit, which you probably
don't understand, to fix a registry, which you also
probably don't understand. He talks like a fix to the
registry is a one-location thing and it's done, when in
fact there are usually many locations related to a
possible program problem, each of which must be
considered. But mostly he's a closed minded ignorant
with a boilerplate he likes to use, adding a mod here &
there sometimes to further differentiate it from where
it was stolen from. Then, to back himself up, he
provides links to discussions where he's used info very
close to his boilerplate, and submitted by him. There is a small group
of such ignorants here who get
really upset at being called on their misinformation;
they'll crawl into the pic soon here, I'm sure, because
every time someone calls them they get more and more
flustered and think that by repeating the same
misinformation over and over someone might believe it. This post in
particular is interesting in the way it
conflicts with itself. But, it does make for a comedic
moment should one bother to read it, or at least scan it
quickly. Thanks for this opportunity Bruce,

Twayne


Bruce C spewed:



There is no such thing as a "good" (meaning useful
or beneficial) registry cleaner, free or otherwise. Some
are less harmful than others, but because they're all
nothing but snake oil, I won't recommend any.
Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your
registry? What specific *problems* are you actually
experiencing (not some program's bogus listing of
imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by using
a registry "cleaner?"
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  #47  
Old January 27th 09, 02:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
CBoom
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Hello, actually using CCleaner registry cleaner it shows what it will do
before you use it (SCAN) and press the clean button..

you can select or deselect stuff ...



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"Unknown" wrote in message
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Even if YOU know exactly what you're doing, you don't know what the
registry cleaner is doing.
Avoid them.
"CBoom" wrote in message
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I advise against using a registry cleaner unless you know exactly what you
are doing

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For tips, tricks and tutorials visit my blog below:
http://computerboom.blogspot.com

"Sage - John Leonard" sagegrp@nowhere wrote in message
...
Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista
and XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx




  #48  
Old February 13th 09, 05:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Sage - John Leonard
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Default Registry Cleaner - does one exists?

Thaks to all

My thoughts are the same as this one!


"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message
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The best registry cleaner is your perseverance to reformat the HD and
reinstall the operating system. All other methods are completely futile
and
there is no evidence your system will improve at all.

It is all in the the mind of nutters out there who claim that they work;
take it from me - THEY DON'T!!!



Sage - John Leonard wrote:

Is there a safe registry cleaner out there, that will work with Vista and
XP?

What about RegDefense?

thx



 




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