XP PRO Bootup

Great explanation. I guess I learned something new today.
"John John (MVP)" wrote in message
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HeyBub wrote:

sgopus wrote:

I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot.
The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no
assumption was made, just read the screen.



Not necessarily. Much Windows stuff loads before there's an indication on
the screen that Windows is in control. For example, Windows may be trying
a remote boot from a non-existent device.

Before Windows tries anything ntldr must first be loaded and you will
either be presented with a boot menu from the boot.ini file or, if there
is only one operating system present, or if the timeout value in the
boot.ini file is set to 0, ntldr will proceed to load Windows without
presenting a boot menu. In either case the BIOS post screen will be
cleared and you will either see a boot menu or temporarily see a black
screen while ntldr starts to load Windows, if you are still seeing POST
information nothing Windows has yet happened. As a matter of fact if the
BIOS POST screen is still present the boot process hasn't yet even been
passed to the MBR so it will be pretty difficult for Windows to be doing
anything!

John

At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
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You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all.
"sgopus" wrote in message
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I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot.
The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no
assumption
was made, just read the screen.

"Unknown" wrote:

You must be assuming that. Why can't it be a timer that got screwed up.
(Giving operator time to make a decision)
"David B." wrote in message
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Because it's not items in startup that are causing the problem, the PC
is
hanging during POST, which is before Windows loads.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
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Why don't you delete a few items at a time from startup till you find
the
causing program?
"AT and HMB" wrote in message
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For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on
to
boot up OK.
The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom
rows, which read:



Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after
coming
out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes
freeze.
It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to
boot
up OK.
Help please

You should start your own thread rather than hijacking this one, include as
much info as you can about the problem.

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"parrotnut" wrote in message
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On Nov 18, 1:50 pm, Leonard Grey wrote:
Your computer is freezing at the BIOS. Windows has not loaded yet, so
this is not a Windows question. You may have an issue with your BIOS or
your hardware. A professional geek can sort it for you, but I would
first try contacting the company that made your computer.
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AT and HMB wrote:
For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to
boot
up OK.
The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom
rows,
which read:

Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming
out of
setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze.
It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot
up
OK.
Help please

I have the same problem, but have no vendor...I put this thing
together out of new and used parts. It used to work great.

Whats that got to do with politeness?
"David B." wrote in message
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
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You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all.
"sgopus" wrote in message
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I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot.
The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no
assumption
was made, just read the screen.

"Unknown" wrote:

You must be assuming that. Why can't it be a timer that got screwed up.
(Giving operator time to make a decision)
"David B." wrote in message
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Because it's not items in startup that are causing the problem, the
PC is
hanging during POST, which is before Windows loads.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
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Why don't you delete a few items at a time from startup till you
find the
causing program?
"AT and HMB" wrote in message
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For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on
to
boot up OK.
The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until
bottom
rows, which read:



Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after
coming
out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes
freeze.
It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to
boot
up OK.
Help please

"Unknown" wrote:

Whats that got to do with politeness?

People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about -
which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't.

"David B." wrote in message
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm
referring to 'scopus'.
"Snidley W." wrote in message
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"Unknown" wrote:

Whats that got to do with politeness?

People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about -
which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't.

"David B." wrote in message
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

"Unknown" wrote:

Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm
referring to 'scopus'.

If you have a demonstrated history of making mistakes, absolutely.

Besides, this is Usenet. It's not your typical afternoon tea party
where the ladies with get together for polite chit-chat.

"Snidley W." wrote in message
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"Unknown" wrote:

Whats that got to do with politeness?

People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about -
which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't.

"David B." wrote in message
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

if you offer advice in a newsgroup, you had best know what your talking
about, you will be correctedif you don't, as I have many times, just ask me
I'll tell you..

"Unknown" wrote:

You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all.
"sgopus" wrote in message
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I can see why you sign your replys as unknown, your an idiot.
The screen clearly states it's the BIOS not windows loading, no assumption
was made, just read the screen.

"Unknown" wrote:

You must be assuming that. Why can't it be a timer that got screwed up.
(Giving operator time to make a decision)
"David B." wrote in message
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Because it's not items in startup that are causing the problem, the PC
is
hanging during POST, which is before Windows loads.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
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Why don't you delete a few items at a time from startup till you find
the
causing program?
"AT and HMB" wrote in message
...
For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to
boot up OK.
The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom
rows, which read:



Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming
out of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes
freeze.
It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to
boot
up OK.
Help please

you should find a name to call yourself besides unknown, and be willing to
admit when your wrong, unknown is cowardly. if your advice stinks, then yes.

"Unknown" wrote:

Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names? I'm
referring to 'scopus'.
"Snidley W." wrote in message
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"Unknown" wrote:

Whats that got to do with politeness?

People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about -
which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't.

"David B." wrote in message
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

sgopus wrote:

you should find a name to call yourself besides unknown, and be willing to
admit when your wrong, unknown is cowardly. if your advice stinks, then yes.

What do you think about changing it to "unknowing"??

"Unknown" wrote:

David B. wrote:
Let me quote the OP for you people that can't read

"The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom
rows, which read:



Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears."


If it isn't obvious to you where the PC is hanging you not going to
be of any use in the thread.



Sorry if I caused you to nearly itch to death. But some things are obvious:

1. You're a frequent poster/reader of the Daily Kos.

2. You've never started Windows in Safe mode and watched hundreds of things
scroll across the screen before any user-friendly indication that Window's
is in control.

I have no clue what Daily Kos is, and I've booted PC's to safe mode more
times than most have booted their PC's in total, so please go whine
somewhere else.

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"HeyBub" wrote in message
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David B. wrote:
Let me quote the OP for you people that can't read

"The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom
rows, which read:



Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears."


If it isn't obvious to you where the PC is hanging you not going to
be of any use in the thread.



Sorry if I caused you to nearly itch to death. But some things are
obvious:

1. You're a frequent poster/reader of the Daily Kos.

2. You've never started Windows in Safe mode and watched hundreds of
things scroll across the screen before any user-friendly indication that
Window's is in control.

Damn, and I brought my mothers tea set this morning

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"Snidley W." wrote in message
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"Unknown" wrote:

Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names?
I'm
referring to 'scopus'.

If you have a demonstrated history of making mistakes, absolutely.

Besides, this is Usenet. It's not your typical afternoon tea party
where the ladies with get together for polite chit-chat.

You know what they say, what's good for the goose, you seem to be joining
right in; "You sure are an obnoxious, insulting know it all", I may be but
at least I know what I'm talking about.

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"Unknown" wrote in message
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Does that mean if I make a mistake I am to be insulted and called names?
I'm referring to 'scopus'.
"Snidley W." wrote in message
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"Unknown" wrote:

Whats that got to do with politeness?

People cut you some slack when you know what you are talking about -
which Dave B. apparently thinks you don't.

"David B." wrote in message
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At least he seems to have a clue what he's talking about.

Thank you Terry for a civilised reply.
The computer is one of several I built from scratch and has been in daily
use for 3years or so.
In retrospect, of course I should have realised it was NOT a Windows problem
and to all those people who have become upset/irate about this I offer my
humble apology. To those who have the time to post insults, I say "get a
life"
Following the useful comments I updated my BIOS with the MSI Live Monitor.
This didn't help.
I will now concentrate on the BIOS area and would appreciate any pointer to
NG or User Group that might be able to help me.
Many thanks again to those who replied constructively.

"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was 11/18/2008 1:30 PM, and on a whim, AT and HMB
pounded out on the keyboard:

For some time now my start up hangs for 5 minutes and then goes on to
boot up OK.
The screen freezes thus:
**********
Phoenix Award Workstation V6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2005, Phoenix Technologies Ltd
(above is at top of the screen, most of screen is blank until bottom
rows, which read:



Press DEL to enter SETUP, F11 to enter Boot Manager
11/10/2005 - MS - 7030 - 6A61CM4CC - 00
**********
On pressing DEL, after a long wait, SETUP appears. Today after coming out
of setup (without change) I had to endure a further 5 minutes freeze.
It always freezes at this same point and, ODDLY, it never fails to boot
up OK.
Help please




Hi AT,

The delay into Setup is either hardware or BIOS related.

When you say, "coming out of setup", what are you saying?

Do you see the XP logo and worm for multiple minutes? OR

Is the screen black for multiple minutes BEFORE seeing the XP logo and
worm?

Is your Boot Manager in use? Has it always been or not been? I've seen
that delay on IBM workstations that have network boot enabled, but are not
longer being started that way. You may have some settings in Boot Manager
that are searching for other devices, or related items in the BIOS.

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Terry R.

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