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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
But with your 3rd option, wouldn't here legally be in violation of the EULA because his QP was registered on the old computer as well? Just a thought. *SIGH* Where did you get the qualifications you claim to have - eBay?! You don't appear to know /anything/! If 98 was OEM then it cannot be transferred and it cannot be used as a QP on the new system, therefore he will need to purchase the flavour of his choice. If 98 is retail then, as long as he removes it from the old system, it can be used as a QP on the new. QPs (as you should know) don't need to be installed, the media just needs to be inserted when prompted. Though it's not exactly legal, as 98 doesn't need to be installed, he could leave 98 on the old system and merely use the disc to qualify XP on the new. He will then be required to format the drive on the old system and reinstall 98 (if he wishes). Once he has XP on the new system, telephone activation will - most likely - be required (unless it's been more than 120 days between installations then he can probably reactivate online). That clear enough for you? |
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As far as the certs go, I got a great deal on them -- 2 more and I'll get a
set of steak knives! As for the licensing, I will admit that I am a little weak in that subject (This is something that I will remedy). I sometimes think Microsoft should have a certification track for licensing -- MCLP (Microsoft Certified Licensing Professional). Cool, now all I need is one more to reach my goal. One more thing, I can take a joke just like the next person. I have no problem with that. But do not ever insult my intelligence again. The fact that a person is unclear about something does not make them an idiot. As I said I can take it, but I have read post from you before. And I do not appreciate the way you talk to people looking for help. -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... Michael D. Alligood wrote: But with your 3rd option, wouldn't here legally be in violation of the EULA because his QP was registered on the old computer as well? Just a thought. *SIGH* Where did you get the qualifications you claim to have - eBay?! You don't appear to know /anything/! If 98 was OEM then it cannot be transferred and it cannot be used as a QP on the new system, therefore he will need to purchase the flavour of his choice. If 98 is retail then, as long as he removes it from the old system, it can be used as a QP on the new. QPs (as you should know) don't need to be installed, the media just needs to be inserted when prompted. Though it's not exactly legal, as 98 doesn't need to be installed, he could leave 98 on the old system and merely use the disc to qualify XP on the new. He will then be required to format the drive on the old system and reinstall 98 (if he wishes). Once he has XP on the new system, telephone activation will - most likely - be required (unless it's been more than 120 days between installations then he can probably reactivate online). That clear enough for you? |
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Thanks for your comments.
Yes I have a legally purchased copy of win98 and a later legally purchased and registered copy of XPprof on my old computer. Now I assume I can install XP from the disc that I have onto the new computer and use it on both machines while I transfer data across from old to new. Then I shall have to phone microsoft within a month? and get the new computer registered and the old one taken off. I will leave the win98 on the old machine. I was looking for any snags with this and if possible, tips about transferring the data. -- Dave - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- - - - - - - - - - - 'Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.' Aristotle "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... Michael D. Alligood wrote: The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) *Do* get your facts straight before posting. Where in his posting did he say the old computer 'came with XP'?! 1) If the licence on the old system is OEM then, yes, it's tied to it forever. 2) If the licence is an upgrade it's only valid as long as he still has the *original* qualifying product. 3) If he does have the original QP, then he can, quite legally, transfer it to the new system. He simply has to boot from the XP CD and insert the qualifying media when prompted. But, if it does transpire to be OEM then, yes, you're perfectly correct. |
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Thanks for your comments.
Yes I have a legally purchased copy of win98 and a later legally purchased and registered copy of XPprof on my old computer. Now I assume I can install XP from the disc that I have onto the new computer and use it on both machines while I transfer data across from old to new. Then I shall have to phone microsoft within a month? and get the new computer registered and the old one taken off. I will leave the win98 on the old machine. I was looking for any snags with this and if possible, tips about transferring the data. -- Dave - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- - - - - - - - - - - 'Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.' Aristotle "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... Michael D. Alligood wrote: The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) *Do* get your facts straight before posting. Where in his posting did he say the old computer 'came with XP'?! 1) If the licence on the old system is OEM then, yes, it's tied to it forever. 2) If the licence is an upgrade it's only valid as long as he still has the *original* qualifying product. 3) If he does have the original QP, then he can, quite legally, transfer it to the new system. He simply has to boot from the XP CD and insert the qualifying media when prompted. But, if it does transpire to be OEM then, yes, you're perfectly correct. |
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Greetings --
Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not transferable), simply remove WinXP from the computer it is currently on, and install it onto the new one. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. Here are the facts pertaining to activation: Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/ Windows Product Activation (WPA) http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm Bruce Chambers -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Dave Bullar" wrote in message ... I have an older computer with winxp prof as operating system (and win98 by dual-boot). Have just ordered a faster new machine with no op system. How do I go about installing winxp on the new machine and presumably taking it off the old one? and what do I have to do to get the move approved by Microsoft? Any help or pointers appreciated -- Dave - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- - - - - - - - - - - 'Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.' Aristotle |
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Greetings --
This would be correct only if the OP has an OEM license. Retail licenses are transferable. Bruce Chambers -- Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH "Michael D. Alligood" wrote in message ... The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI |
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Thanks for your comments.
Yes I have a legally purchased copy of win98 and a later legally purchased and registered copy of XPprof on my old computer. Now I assume I can install XP from the disc that I have onto the new computer and use it on both machines while I transfer data across from old to new. Then I shall have to phone microsoft within a month? and get the new computer registered and the old one taken off. I will leave the win98 on the old machine. I was looking for any snags with this and if possible, tips about transferring the data. -- Dave - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --- - - - - - - - - - - 'Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to improbable possibilities.' Aristotle "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... Michael D. Alligood wrote: The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) *Do* get your facts straight before posting. Where in his posting did he say the old computer 'came with XP'?! 1) If the licence on the old system is OEM then, yes, it's tied to it forever. 2) If the licence is an upgrade it's only valid as long as he still has the *original* qualifying product. 3) If he does have the original QP, then he can, quite legally, transfer it to the new system. He simply has to boot from the XP CD and insert the qualifying media when prompted. But, if it does transpire to be OEM then, yes, you're perfectly correct. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
As far as the certs go, I got a great deal on them -- 2 more and I'll get a set of steak knives! As for the licensing, I will admit that I am a little weak in that subject (This is something that I will remedy). I sometimes think Microsoft should have a certification track for licensing -- MCLP (Microsoft Certified Licensing Professional). Cool, now all I need is one more to reach my goal. One more thing, I can take a joke just like the next person. I have no problem with that. But do not ever insult my intelligence again. The fact that a person is unclear about something does not make them an idiot. As I said I can take it, but I have read post from you before. And I do not appreciate the way you talk to people looking for help. There is a phrase for people like you - brown-nosers, and I don't like them. If you shoved your head any further up MS's collective arse, you'd be speaking for them. This isn't the first time I've seen an inaccurate post from you. Oh I know why you're doing it, you want to be an MVP so badly - well it doesn't work like that buddy, no one wants to work with someone who tries to be teacher's pet. What is your goal exactly? You think if you have a full set of MS qualifications they'll automatically make you an MVP? Sort of a reward for passing all their exams? You have to *EARN* an MVPship and I've yet to see you post anything worthy of it. There are people posting here who have degrees in some form of computer-related field and they're not MVPs. It takes a helluva lot more work to gain a degree than some poxy MS cert. A five year old could pass an A+ certificate! An MSCE? OK, I'll concede that would probably require a 13-year-old. I've got several, but I don't advertise them. You do it because you think it will make you more likely to gain what your little heart has always desired - but it won't. All people will see is a pathetic brown-noser. You pitched up here less than a fortnight ago and more or less your first post was "How do I become an MVP" as if it was another certificate you could add to your already unimpressive collection. Having certificates doesn't mean you know anything - most of them are completely worthless. No employer that I've come across cares two hoots about A+, i-Net or MS certification, because they don't prove you know anything. All they prove is you can tick the right boxes - well a trained monkey can do that! If you are *EVER* made MVP then it will discredit the entire programme. |
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I suddenly realized why you have "Miss" in front of you name. Could it be
that no one in their right mind can stand to be near you? I have proxied these posts for sometime now. I would have posted sooner but it was individuals like you who stopped me. Why in the world would anyone come to you for advice -- except in how to commit suicide? Which is why I started to "help" individuals with their computer related problems -- not demoralize them. I really do not see the need for that. I just deleted nearly half of this post because I do not feel the need to justify anything to a person like you. Tell you what, you keep doing whatever it is you do and I keep doing my best to help those that need helping. I cannot help but to feel sorry for you in some strange way. Not to worry though, I will still manage to sleep well tonight. If you feel the need to critize people all the time, then please do it somewhere else. I am done with you. -- Best of luck! Michael D. Alligood MCSA, MCP, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI "Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message ... Michael D. Alligood wrote: As far as the certs go, I got a great deal on them -- 2 more and I'll get a set of steak knives! As for the licensing, I will admit that I am a little weak in that subject (This is something that I will remedy). I sometimes think Microsoft should have a certification track for licensing -- MCLP (Microsoft Certified Licensing Professional). Cool, now all I need is one more to reach my goal. One more thing, I can take a joke just like the next person. I have no problem with that. But do not ever insult my intelligence again. The fact that a person is unclear about something does not make them an idiot. As I said I can take it, but I have read post from you before. And I do not appreciate the way you talk to people looking for help. There is a phrase for people like you - brown-nosers, and I don't like them. If you shoved your head any further up MS's collective arse, you'd be speaking for them. This isn't the first time I've seen an inaccurate post from you. Oh I know why you're doing it, you want to be an MVP so badly - well it doesn't work like that buddy, no one wants to work with someone who tries to be teacher's pet. What is your goal exactly? You think if you have a full set of MS qualifications they'll automatically make you an MVP? Sort of a reward for passing all their exams? You have to *EARN* an MVPship and I've yet to see you post anything worthy of it. There are people posting here who have degrees in some form of computer-related field and they're not MVPs. It takes a helluva lot more work to gain a degree than some poxy MS cert. A five year old could pass an A+ certificate! An MSCE? OK, I'll concede that would probably require a 13-year-old. I've got several, but I don't advertise them. You do it because you think it will make you more likely to gain what your little heart has always desired - but it won't. All people will see is a pathetic brown-noser. You pitched up here less than a fortnight ago and more or less your first post was "How do I become an MVP" as if it was another certificate you could add to your already unimpressive collection. Having certificates doesn't mean you know anything - most of them are completely worthless. No employer that I've come across cares two hoots about A+, i-Net or MS certification, because they don't prove you know anything. All they prove is you can tick the right boxes - well a trained monkey can do that! If you are *EVER* made MVP then it will discredit the entire programme. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) *Do* get your facts straight before posting. Where in his posting did he say the old computer 'came with XP'?! 1) If the licence on the old system is OEM then, yes, it's tied to it forever. 2) If the licence is an upgrade it's only valid as long as he still has the *original* qualifying product. 3) If he does have the original QP, then he can, quite legally, transfer it to the new system. He simply has to boot from the XP CD and insert the qualifying media when prompted. But, if it does transpire to be OEM then, yes, you're perfectly correct. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) *Do* get your facts straight before posting. Where in his posting did he say the old computer 'came with XP'?! 1) If the licence on the old system is OEM then, yes, it's tied to it forever. 2) If the licence is an upgrade it's only valid as long as he still has the *original* qualifying product. 3) If he does have the original QP, then he can, quite legally, transfer it to the new system. He simply has to boot from the XP CD and insert the qualifying media when prompted. But, if it does transpire to be OEM then, yes, you're perfectly correct. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
The answer to you question is probably not one you want to hear but, you cannot transfer or install the OS to the new PC. You will have to purchase a licensed copy to install on the new computer (full retail version) *Do* get your facts straight before posting. Where in his posting did he say the old computer 'came with XP'?! 1) If the licence on the old system is OEM then, yes, it's tied to it forever. 2) If the licence is an upgrade it's only valid as long as he still has the *original* qualifying product. 3) If he does have the original QP, then he can, quite legally, transfer it to the new system. He simply has to boot from the XP CD and insert the qualifying media when prompted. But, if it does transpire to be OEM then, yes, you're perfectly correct. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
As far as the certs go, I got a great deal on them -- 2 more and I'll get a set of steak knives! As for the licensing, I will admit that I am a little weak in that subject (This is something that I will remedy). I sometimes think Microsoft should have a certification track for licensing -- MCLP (Microsoft Certified Licensing Professional). Cool, now all I need is one more to reach my goal. One more thing, I can take a joke just like the next person. I have no problem with that. But do not ever insult my intelligence again. The fact that a person is unclear about something does not make them an idiot. As I said I can take it, but I have read post from you before. And I do not appreciate the way you talk to people looking for help. There is a phrase for people like you - brown-nosers, and I don't like them. If you shoved your head any further up MS's collective arse, you'd be speaking for them. This isn't the first time I've seen an inaccurate post from you. Oh I know why you're doing it, you want to be an MVP so badly - well it doesn't work like that buddy, no one wants to work with someone who tries to be teacher's pet. What is your goal exactly? You think if you have a full set of MS qualifications they'll automatically make you an MVP? Sort of a reward for passing all their exams? You have to *EARN* an MVPship and I've yet to see you post anything worthy of it. There are people posting here who have degrees in some form of computer-related field and they're not MVPs. It takes a helluva lot more work to gain a degree than some poxy MS cert. A five year old could pass an A+ certificate! An MSCE? OK, I'll concede that would probably require a 13-year-old. I've got several, but I don't advertise them. You do it because you think it will make you more likely to gain what your little heart has always desired - but it won't. All people will see is a pathetic brown-noser. You pitched up here less than a fortnight ago and more or less your first post was "How do I become an MVP" as if it was another certificate you could add to your already unimpressive collection. Having certificates doesn't mean you know anything - most of them are completely worthless. No employer that I've come across cares two hoots about A+, i-Net or MS certification, because they don't prove you know anything. All they prove is you can tick the right boxes - well a trained monkey can do that! If you are *EVER* made MVP then it will discredit the entire programme. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
As far as the certs go, I got a great deal on them -- 2 more and I'll get a set of steak knives! As for the licensing, I will admit that I am a little weak in that subject (This is something that I will remedy). I sometimes think Microsoft should have a certification track for licensing -- MCLP (Microsoft Certified Licensing Professional). Cool, now all I need is one more to reach my goal. One more thing, I can take a joke just like the next person. I have no problem with that. But do not ever insult my intelligence again. The fact that a person is unclear about something does not make them an idiot. As I said I can take it, but I have read post from you before. And I do not appreciate the way you talk to people looking for help. There is a phrase for people like you - brown-nosers, and I don't like them. If you shoved your head any further up MS's collective arse, you'd be speaking for them. This isn't the first time I've seen an inaccurate post from you. Oh I know why you're doing it, you want to be an MVP so badly - well it doesn't work like that buddy, no one wants to work with someone who tries to be teacher's pet. What is your goal exactly? You think if you have a full set of MS qualifications they'll automatically make you an MVP? Sort of a reward for passing all their exams? You have to *EARN* an MVPship and I've yet to see you post anything worthy of it. There are people posting here who have degrees in some form of computer-related field and they're not MVPs. It takes a helluva lot more work to gain a degree than some poxy MS cert. A five year old could pass an A+ certificate! An MSCE? OK, I'll concede that would probably require a 13-year-old. I've got several, but I don't advertise them. You do it because you think it will make you more likely to gain what your little heart has always desired - but it won't. All people will see is a pathetic brown-noser. You pitched up here less than a fortnight ago and more or less your first post was "How do I become an MVP" as if it was another certificate you could add to your already unimpressive collection. Having certificates doesn't mean you know anything - most of them are completely worthless. No employer that I've come across cares two hoots about A+, i-Net or MS certification, because they don't prove you know anything. All they prove is you can tick the right boxes - well a trained monkey can do that! If you are *EVER* made MVP then it will discredit the entire programme. |
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Michael D. Alligood wrote:
As far as the certs go, I got a great deal on them -- 2 more and I'll get a set of steak knives! As for the licensing, I will admit that I am a little weak in that subject (This is something that I will remedy). I sometimes think Microsoft should have a certification track for licensing -- MCLP (Microsoft Certified Licensing Professional). Cool, now all I need is one more to reach my goal. One more thing, I can take a joke just like the next person. I have no problem with that. But do not ever insult my intelligence again. The fact that a person is unclear about something does not make them an idiot. As I said I can take it, but I have read post from you before. And I do not appreciate the way you talk to people looking for help. There is a phrase for people like you - brown-nosers, and I don't like them. If you shoved your head any further up MS's collective arse, you'd be speaking for them. This isn't the first time I've seen an inaccurate post from you. Oh I know why you're doing it, you want to be an MVP so badly - well it doesn't work like that buddy, no one wants to work with someone who tries to be teacher's pet. What is your goal exactly? You think if you have a full set of MS qualifications they'll automatically make you an MVP? Sort of a reward for passing all their exams? You have to *EARN* an MVPship and I've yet to see you post anything worthy of it. There are people posting here who have degrees in some form of computer-related field and they're not MVPs. It takes a helluva lot more work to gain a degree than some poxy MS cert. A five year old could pass an A+ certificate! An MSCE? OK, I'll concede that would probably require a 13-year-old. I've got several, but I don't advertise them. You do it because you think it will make you more likely to gain what your little heart has always desired - but it won't. All people will see is a pathetic brown-noser. You pitched up here less than a fortnight ago and more or less your first post was "How do I become an MVP" as if it was another certificate you could add to your already unimpressive collection. Having certificates doesn't mean you know anything - most of them are completely worthless. No employer that I've come across cares two hoots about A+, i-Net or MS certification, because they don't prove you know anything. All they prove is you can tick the right boxes - well a trained monkey can do that! If you are *EVER* made MVP then it will discredit the entire programme. |
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