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I used to have this problem a lot in XP. It went away and I didn't know
why, and I've connected easily with my own LAN and with my landlady's when I was on my trip this spring, and on 3 occasions with 2 hotels and a McDonalds when I was in the car during the trip. And I've connected several times since I got back home. Unfortunately it started again tonight when I need the web. The icon in the systray shows that I'm not connected to the network so I click on it and the Choose a Wireless Network window shows up. Start he At the top is my LAN with 5 bars, much more than any of my neighbors. In the upper right corner of my LAN's box, it says Not Connected and there's a gold star. But in the text in the box it says, "You are currently connected to this network. To disconnect from this network click Disconnect" Now I don't want to disconnect, but maybe it will make it possible to connect. So I click Disconnect at the bottom of the window and get a box that says "Are you sure you want to disconnect from this network, Wireless Heaven [my network]? Once you have disconnected Windows will not reconnect to this network automatically. To reconnect to this network in the future, select it from the list and click Connect. Yes / No" So I click Yes and the list of the networks around me goes blank for a bit then reappears with mine at the top. I select it and I'm back at Start Here, above. Instead of the click box saying Connect, it says Disconnect. And the text in my LAN's box says I'm connected but the upper right corner says I'm not. TIA |
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In message , micky
writes: I used to have this problem a lot in XP. It went away and I didn't know why, and I've connected easily with my own LAN and with my landlady's when I was on my trip this spring, and on 3 occasions with 2 hotels and a McDonalds when I was in the car during the trip. And I've connected several times since I got back home. Unfortunately it started again tonight when I need the web. The icon in the systray shows that I'm not connected to the network so I click on it and the Choose a Wireless Network window shows up. Start he At the top is my LAN with 5 bars, much more than any of my neighbors. In the upper right corner of my LAN's box, it says Not Connected and there's a gold star. But in the text in the box it says, "You are currently connected to this network. To disconnect from this network click Disconnect" Now I don't want to disconnect, but maybe it will make it possible to connect. So I click Disconnect at the bottom of the window and get a box that says "Are you sure you want to disconnect from this network, Wireless Heaven [my network]? Once you have disconnected Windows will not reconnect to this network automatically. To reconnect to this network in the future, select it from the list and click Connect. Yes / No" I'm afraid I don't know what's causing your machine to behave as it is doing, but I do know that if you say yes to that question, it is telling the truth: from then on, it won't _automatically_ connect to it: you'll have to tell it to (and I _think_ re-enter the key). If you _do_ say yes there, you _can_ turn it back to automatically connecting; it's a bit convoluted, but let me see ... ah yes, you have to get to "Wireless Network Connection Properties". Here's one way: right-click on the tray icon ["))" with a red cross on it] and select View Available Wireless Networks, then on Change the order of connected networks; you should be in the Wireless Networks tab, and have a list of Preferred networks. Find yours in the list (and maybe Move up it to the top); then, if it doesn't say (Automatic) after it, click its Properties, then the Connection tab, then tick Connect when this network is in range. This will return your system to automatically connecting to that network, if you've turned that off by saying Yes to the above question. I don't know if it will fix the problem you've described, though. So I click Yes and the list of the networks around me goes blank for a bit then reappears with mine at the top. I select it and I'm back at Start Here, above. Instead of the click box saying Connect, it says Disconnect. And the text in my LAN's box says I'm connected but the upper right corner says I'm not. TIA Hmm. Very odd! I'd have expected it to say Connect, since you said Yes to disconnect. (I have something worse: from time to time mine disconnects from my wifi, and the only way to reconnect that I've found is a restart. Until sometime in the last month, the tray icon switched to the one with the little ball moving back and forth; now, it usually still shows as connected, but it isn't. I'd assumed the wifi card was dying - though it could remain connected for hours or days - but I got an external one, and the same happened with that. [Yes, I did have the internal one turned off.] And - with either the internal or external wifi hardware - if I tell it to "repair" the connection, it gets as far as "turning off your wireless adapter" or whatever, but then when it does the nest step, turning it back on, the computer reboots.) Actually, that might be worth trying on _your_ system - perhaps after making sure your network _is_ shown as automatic in the list under Change the Order; right-click on the tray icon, select Repair, and see what happens! -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf There I was, sitting in a glum mood - 'Cheer up, things could be worse', he said, so I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse. |
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![]() So how come it says I'm not connected when I wasn't and when I was, but yesterday at Autozone, it said I wasn't connected and I wasn't? In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 01:46:17 -0400, micky wrote: I used to have this problem a lot in XP. It went away and I didn't know why, and I've connected easily with my own LAN and with my landlady's when I was on my trip this spring, and on 3 occasions with 2 hotels and a McDonalds when I was in the car during the trip. And I've connected several times since I got back home. Unfortunately it started again tonight when I need the web. The icon in the systray shows that I'm not connected to the network so I click on it and the Choose a Wireless Network window shows up. Start he At the top is my LAN with 5 bars, much more than any of my neighbors. In the upper right corner of my LAN's box, it says Not Connected and there's a gold star. But in the text in the box it says, "You are currently connected to this network. To disconnect from this network click Disconnect" Now I don't want to disconnect, but maybe it will make it possible to connect. So I click Disconnect at the bottom of the window and get a box that says "Are you sure you want to disconnect from this network, Wireless Heaven [my network]? Once you have disconnected Windows will not reconnect to this network automatically. To reconnect to this network in the future, select it from the list and click Connect. Yes / No" So I click Yes and the list of the networks around me goes blank for a bit then reappears with mine at the top. I select it and I'm back at Start Here, above. Instead of the click box saying Connect, it says Disconnect. And the text in my LAN's box says I'm connected but the upper right corner says I'm not. TIA |
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I restarted the computer and maybe that's why it's connected now, and it
says it's connected. (Hey, last time, I clicked the wrong place and it was downloading a bunch of mail I didnt' want on my laptop so on this Acer netbook, I turned off the wifi receiver, and its light went out. But now, it's light is back on and I never turned it back on, but I didn't notice until now that the switch springs back to On. !) Actually it first connected to a very weak signal of Xfinitywifi -- which IIUC used to be free for a certain amount of data each month, but now is only free for a certain amount of data ONCE -- and I'm guessing it didn't connect to me because it got a bad message from before, but I disconnected from Xfinity, and connected to my own LAN. I wonder if restart fixed the problem below, and if it's the only way to fix it I can't always restart conveniently. I thought you'd all want to know. In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:00:22 -0400, micky wrote: So how come it says I'm not connected when I wasn't and sometimes when I was, but yesterday at Autozone, it said I wasn't connected and I wasn't? In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Sat, 14 Oct 2017 01:46:17 -0400, micky wrote: I used to have this problem a lot in XP. It went away and I didn't know why, and I've connected easily with my own LAN and with my landlady's when I was on my trip this spring, and on 3 occasions with 2 hotels and a McDonalds when I was in the car during the trip. And I've connected several times since I got back home. Unfortunately it started again tonight when I need the web. The icon in the systray shows that I'm not connected to the network so I click on it and the Choose a Wireless Network window shows up. Start he At the top is my LAN with 5 bars, much more than any of my neighbors. In the upper right corner of my LAN's box, it says Not Connected and there's a gold star. But in the text in the box it says, "You are currently connected to this network. To disconnect from this network click Disconnect" Now I don't want to disconnect, but maybe it will make it possible to connect. So I click Disconnect at the bottom of the window and get a box that says "Are you sure you want to disconnect from this network, Wireless Heaven [my network]? Once you have disconnected Windows will not reconnect to this network automatically. To reconnect to this network in the future, select it from the list and click Connect. Yes / No" So I click Yes and the list of the networks around me goes blank for a bit then reappears with mine at the top. I select it and I'm back at Start Here, above. Instead of the click box saying Connect, it says Disconnect. And the text in my LAN's box says I'm connected but the upper right corner says I'm not. TIA |
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micky wrote:
I wonder if restart fixed the problem below, and if it's the only way to fix it I can't always restart conveniently. I thought you'd all want to know. Restarting equipment allows state information to be gathered and re-computed. On OSes like Windows 10, you want to make sure your system is not "Fast Starting", so it's not loading a hibernated kernel image. You want it to boot from scratch, and load each driver separately. In Power Options, there should be an option to disable Fast Start. An OS like WinXP, if you boot from scratch, doesn't have that nuance to worry about. Modern Windows relies on your RAM being error free. This is why you should memtest once a year, to make sure this assumption actually holds true. I get "failures in service here", typically at the 1.5 to 2 year mark of RAM ownership. The RAM on this computer was just replaced a couple months ago, because it failed, and it failed in a sensitive location that Windows uses. With all sorts of hilarious symptoms to confuse Paul... http://www.memtest.org/ Now, if Intel would only enable ECC on all their products. It's not normal operation I'm worried about. I'd like a feature where "broken RAM talks to you", and having working ECC would be an excellent way to report that. The RAM I just replaced, was ECC RAM, but the (broken) Intel chipset (X48) promised DDR2 ECC, but it doesn't work. So I got no warning early on, that something was wrong. Paul |
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In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:18:34
-0400, Paul wrote: micky wrote: I wonder if restart fixed the problem below, and if it's the only way to fix it I can't always restart conveniently. I thought you'd all want to know. Restarting equipment allows state information to be gathered and re-computed. I didn't want to restart because I had lots of info showing. I only restarted because of the problem in the new thread. Resinstalling that software would not have been complete without restarting. I ended up taking screen shots of two CMD windows, so I'll know what to write the next time. I hope I remember the rest of what I was doing. (I dont' remember if I posted here about the date inaccuracies on the photos I took. I thought I was done repairing them when, amazingly, only half of tthem were repaired. But maybe even they aren't. I got tired at this point and decided that for now, they didn't need the right dates because I'm not posting them yet, only showing them to my brother, and I'll know which is before which (and he won't care.) On OSes like Windows 10, you want to make sure your system is not "Fast Starting", so it's not loading I have it set for fast start and I can tell sometimes it is faster and I like that. Isnt' there some way I can do that normally but require it to do a slow start a hibernated kernel image. You want it to boot from scratch, and load each driver separately. In Power Options, there should be an option to disable Fast Start. An OS like WinXP, if you boot from scratch, doesn't have that nuance to worry about. Modern Windows relies on your RAM being error free. This is why you should memtest once a year, to I'm sure you don't remember that when I bought this used PC, one stick was bad and I got memory crashes every two weeks or so and less often other crashes. Since I bought new bigger memory, I haven't had that, but of course I get your point that the mem could have a problem. After all, the bad memory I just replaced probably wasn't bad when it was new. make sure this assumption actually holds true. I get "failures in service here", typically at the 1.5 to 2 year mark of RAM ownership. The RAM on this Wow. computer was just replaced a couple months ago, because it failed, and it failed in a sensitive location that Windows uses. With all sorts of hilarious symptoms to confuse Paul... That's only fair, since often your posts confuse me. Did I mention that my android phone that I bought a year ago June by September was saying there was a problem with the SD card and I should it, but I would have to copy it to the PC, format it, and copy it back and it seemed like it would take too much time, so I postponed it for 14 or 15 months and now the phone is broken, so I never have to do it!!! http://www.memtest.org/ Now, if Intel would only enable ECC on all their products. It's not normal operation I'm worried about. I'd like a feature where "broken RAM talks to you", and having working ECC would be an excellent way to report that. The RAM I just replaced, was ECC RAM, but the (broken) Intel chipset (X48) promised DDR2 ECC, but it doesn't work. So I got no warning early on, that something was wrong. I'm sorry to hear that. I hope to understand it some day, but not this week. Too much going on. ;-) Paul |
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