OE 6 email and replying with the "to" addres (instead of the "default" one)

Hello all,

I've got Outlook Express 6 here, and have set up an an email account which
also has a few aliasses pointing to it. On reception I move, using the
programs message rules, the email to its specific folder depending on the
alias address available in the "to" field.

The problem is that when I reply to such an email message it fully ignores
that "to" address (doesn't use it as the new "from"), and instead uses the
"default" address for that acount -- which I than again-and-again need to
change to the alias I used in the message I'm replying to. There is no
question in my mind that it *will* go wrong, the only question is *when*.
:-(

tl;dr:
(how) can I tell OE 6 to use the "to" (my origional alias) of the email
message I'm replying to as the "from" of the reply message I'm busy writing
?

.... or something of the same nature (making the "from" depend on the folder
I'm in ? Great, and maybe even better!)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:28:05 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

I've got Outlook Express 6 here, and have set up an an email account which
also has a few aliasses pointing to it. On reception I move, using the
programs message rules, the email to its specific folder depending on the
alias address available in the "to" field.

The problem is that when I reply to such an email message it fully ignores
that "to" address (doesn't use it as the new "from"), and instead uses the
"default" address for that acount -- which I than again-and-again need to
change to the alias I used in the message I'm replying to. There is no
question in my mind that it *will* go wrong, the only question is *when*.
:-(

tl;dr:
(how) can I tell OE 6 to use the "to" (my origional alias) of the email
message I'm replying to as the "from" of the reply message I'm busy writing
?

.... or something of the same nature (making the "from" depend on the folder
I'm in ? Great, and maybe even better!)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

OE isn't smart enough for that. It is a light version of Outlook after all.
Might want to look for a better email client.

JJ,

OE isn't smart enough for that.

Do you mean that you *think* its not smart enough for that (in which case I
disagree with you*), or that you *know* it cannot do what I want (in this
case, thank you).

*If its smart enough to be able to manage mutlipe accounts, allows you to
switch identities and can lift the "to" field from a message so it can be
used in email-message rules its smart enough to do what I asked for.

The only question is, has anyone thought of the situation I described, and
added a setting for it (just as they did for using only one (freely
selectable!) email addres for all accounts, or allow every account to send
with its own one) ... :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"JJ" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:28:05 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

I've got Outlook Express 6 here, and have set up an an email account
which
also has a few aliasses pointing to it. On reception I move, using the
programs message rules, the email to its specific folder depending on the
alias address available in the "to" field.

The problem is that when I reply to such an email message it fully
ignores
that "to" address (doesn't use it as the new "from"), and instead uses
the
"default" address for that acount -- which I than again-and-again need to
change to the alias I used in the message I'm replying to. There is no
question in my mind that it *will* go wrong, the only question is *when*.
:-(

tl;dr:
(how) can I tell OE 6 to use the "to" (my origional alias) of the email
message I'm replying to as the "from" of the reply message I'm busy
writing
?

.... or something of the same nature (making the "from" depend on the
folder
I'm in ? Great, and maybe even better!)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

OE isn't smart enough for that. It is a light version of Outlook after
all.
Might want to look for a better email client.

On 16/10/2017 12:28, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

I've got Outlook Express 6 here, and have set up an an email account which
also has a few aliasses pointing to it. On reception I move, using the
programs message rules, the email to its specific folder depending on the
alias address available in the "to" field.

The problem is that when I reply to such an email message it fully ignores
that "to" address (doesn't use it as the new "from"), and instead uses the
"default" address for that acount -- which I than again-and-again need to
change to the alias I used in the message I'm replying to. There is no
question in my mind that it *will* go wrong, the only question is *when*.
:-(

tl;dr:
(how) can I tell OE 6 to use the "to" (my origional alias) of the email
message I'm replying to as the "from" of the reply message I'm busy writing
?

.... or something of the same nature (making the "from" depend on the folder
I'm in ? Great, and maybe even better!)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


Which email provider are you using?
Some (e.g. outlook.com) allow you to receive with an alias but not to
send from an email client - it will only use your main identity
regardless of any setting available in the client. Outlook will send
from an alias if you use the web interface.

Mike,

Which email provider are you using?

I'm sorry if I was not clear about it, this has only to do with
(configuring) OE 6.

But yes, I can send an email using that email alias. Thats not the problem.
Me, at some point in the future, forgetting to change the changed-to-default
"from" to the alias is.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message
"MikeS" wrote in message news
On 16/10/2017 12:28, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,

I've got Outlook Express 6 here, and have set up an an email account
which
also has a few aliasses pointing to it. On reception I move, using the
programs message rules, the email to its specific folder depending on the
alias address available in the "to" field.

The problem is that when I reply to such an email message it fully
ignores
that "to" address (doesn't use it as the new "from"), and instead uses
the
"default" address for that acount -- which I than again-and-again need to
change to the alias I used in the message I'm replying to. There is no
question in my mind that it *will* go wrong, the only question is *when*.
:-(

tl;dr:
(how) can I tell OE 6 to use the "to" (my origional alias) of the email
message I'm replying to as the "from" of the reply message I'm busy
writing
?

.... or something of the same nature (making the "from" depend on the
folder
I'm in ? Great, and maybe even better!)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


Which email provider are you using?
Some (e.g. outlook.com) allow you to receive with an alias but not to send
from an email client - it will only use your main identity regardless of
any setting available in the client. Outlook will send from an alias if
you use the web interface.

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:59:19 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

Do you mean that you *think* its not smart enough for that (in which case I
disagree with you*), or that you *know* it cannot do what I want (in this
case, thank you).

Both.

*If its smart enough to be able to manage mutlipe accounts, allows you to
switch identities and can lift the "to" field from a message so it can be
used in email-message rules its smart enough to do what I asked for.

That's a different thing which you ask for. It is smart enough to choose the
correct email address in the "To" field when replying a message, but it's
*not* smart enough to choose the correct email account in the "From" field.

The only question is, has anyone thought of the situation I described, and
added a setting for it (just as they did for using only one (freely
selectable!) email addres for all accounts, or allow every account to send
with its own one) ... :-)

I'm pretty sure you already know that OE is a compiled application, and
adding a setting to it would involve hacking the application.

JJ,

Both.

Hmmm...

That's a different thing which you ask for.

I was not asking there, I was referring to the quantities of smartnesnes I
think is involved. Pretty-much the same as far as I can tell.

and adding a setting to it would involve hacking the application.

Here I was trying to refer to MS, its designers, and what they thought of
could be usefull to the user of their product.

To repeat my question, *can* I tell OE to use the "from" from the replied-to
(old) message as the "to" of the replying (new) message. If so, how.

As far as I can tell you're not quite sure, but do not think so. Maybe
someone else has a bit more definitive answer ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"JJ" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:59:19 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

Do you mean that you *think* its not smart enough for that (in which case
I
disagree with you*), or that you *know* it cannot do what I want (in this
case, thank you).

Both.

*If its smart enough to be able to manage mutlipe accounts, allows you to
switch identities and can lift the "to" field from a message so it can be
used in email-message rules its smart enough to do what I asked for.

That's a different thing which you ask for. It is smart enough to choose
the
correct email address in the "To" field when replying a message, but it's
*not* smart enough to choose the correct email account in the "From"
field.

The only question is, has anyone thought of the situation I described,
and
added a setting for it (just as they did for using only one (freely
selectable!) email addres for all accounts, or allow every account to
send
with its own one) ... :-)

I'm pretty sure you already know that OE is a compiled application, and
adding a setting to it would involve hacking the application.

On 17 Oct 2017, "R.Wieser" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Here I was trying to refer to MS, its designers, and what they
thought of could be usefull to the user of their product.

You obviously don't understand that Outlook Express was dropped from
further development more than a decade and a half ago. MS and the
designers don't care a whit what could be useful to the users. They are
certainly not taking suggestions.

As far as I can tell you're not quite sure, but do not think so.
Maybe someone else has a bit more definitive answer ...

When you ask a question here you will get opinions. If that bothers you
you should go somewhere else. You do not get to pick and choose who
answers you.

In message , Nil
writes:
On 17 Oct 2017, "R.Wieser" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Here I was trying to refer to MS, its designers, and what they
thought of could be usefull to the user of their product.

You obviously don't understand that Outlook Express was dropped from
further development more than a decade and a half ago. MS and the
designers don't care a whit what could be useful to the users. They are
certainly not taking suggestions.

He was asking if anyone knew, if it was _possible_, how to do what he
wanted (make the To: based on the From: being replied to rather than the
default personality); not asking for that to be _added_. He may have
expressed an _opinion_ that it was likely, given all the other things
that it _can_ do, that OE _could_ do that; he wasn't asking for it to be
_added_ if it can't.

As far as I can tell you're not quite sure, but do not think so.
Maybe someone else has a bit more definitive answer ...

When you ask a question here you will get opinions. If that bothers you
you should go somewhere else. You do not get to pick and choose who
answers you.

He wasn't saying it bothered him that you didn't know. He was just
asking if anyone did know, for sure.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

You can be tough without being rude - Nick Clegg, 2014 July

Nil,

You obviously don't understand that Outlook Express was dropped
from further development more than a decade and a half ago.

What do you mean ? Where the developpers of that era stupider than the ones
outof this era than ?

MS and the designers don't care a whit what could be useful to the users.
They are certainly not taking suggestions.

Although I can understand your sentiment (I regulary use MSDN
documentation), I do not agree with you. If they would have just barfed
something out with minimum specs than it would, for example, only have
supported a single email addres, and would not have had message rules.

But its not about if they are willing to listen to people and are willing to
make some changes to the program, it is about the capabilities of the
program as its was created.

When you ask a question here you will get opinions.

Yeah, thats true. Not that any of it will be actually helpfull, but they
will be put forward regardless. :-)

If that bothers you you should go somewhere else.

I think you read a bit too much in what I said there. :-)

Simply said, JJ does not seem to know the answer. But maybe there is
someone else here who does. Thats all.

And alas, if I remove all the complaints about what you think I must have
ment outof your message I'm left with a blank sheet. Which does not help
me one iota further in finding the answer I'm looking for ....

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"Nil" wrote in message
...
On 17 Oct 2017, "R.Wieser" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Here I was trying to refer to MS, its designers, and what they
thought of could be usefull to the user of their product.

You obviously don't understand that Outlook Express was dropped from
further development more than a decade and a half ago. MS and the
designers don't care a whit what could be useful to the users. They are
certainly not taking suggestions.

As far as I can tell you're not quite sure, but do not think so.
Maybe someone else has a bit more definitive answer ...

When you ask a question here you will get opinions. If that bothers you
you should go somewhere else. You do not get to pick and choose who
answers you.

On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:44:24 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

What do you mean ? Where the developpers of that era stupider than the ones
outof this era than ?

It's not that they're stupider. It's just that Microsoft is usually
reluctant to add minor features.

Simply said, JJ does not seem to know the answer. But maybe there is
someone else here who does. Thats all.

IMO, the answer to your question is pretty obvious to me, because it's not
difficult to find the answer - considering the not-so-complex design of OE.

Just because I don't have proof that there's no setting for it, doesn't mean
that I don't know the answer. I can't possibly show you things that don't
exist.

On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 15:23:51 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

Here I was trying to refer to MS, its designers, and what they thought of
could be usefull to the user of their product.

To repeat my question, *can* I tell OE to use the "from" from the replied-to
(old) message as the "to" of the replying (new) message. If so, how.

As far as I can tell you're not quite sure, but do not think so. Maybe
someone else has a bit more definitive answer ...

The answer is no. You can ask someone to rummage OE all you want, but you
won't find it.

On 17 Oct 2017, "R.Wieser" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Nil,
You obviously don't understand that Outlook Express was dropped
from further development more than a decade and a half ago.

What do you mean ? Where the developpers of that era stupider
than the ones outof this era than ?

What I mean is that for you to ask for new features to be added to a
program that was abandoned long, long ago is futile and just plain
silly.

Although I can understand your sentiment (I regulary use MSDN
documentation), I do not agree with you. If they would have just
barfed something out with minimum specs than it would, for
example, only have supported a single email addres, and would not
have had message rules.

It doesn't matter whether you agree with me or not, the fact remains
that the program is long dead and the developers will never touch it
again. What they could or would have done at that time is irrelevant.
No new features or settings will ever be added.

And alas, if I remove all the complaints about what you think I
must have ment outof your message I'm left with a blank sheet.
Which does not help me one iota further in finding the answer I'm
looking for ....

Nobody is here to serve you. Grousing about not getting what you want
is childish. And futile.

On 17 Oct 2017, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

He was asking if anyone knew, if it was _possible_, how to do what
he wanted (make the To: based on the From: being replied to rather
than the default personality); not asking for that to be _added_.
He may have expressed an _opinion_ that it was likely, given all
the other things that it _can_ do, that OE _could_ do that; he
wasn't asking for it to be _added_ if it can't.

He said he was addressing the Microsoft developers... all of whom left
the project more than a decade ago.

He wasn't saying it bothered him that you didn't know. He was just
asking if anyone did know, for sure.

Sounded to me like was getting ****y at people for telling him a truth
that he didn't want to hear.

JJ,

IMO, the answer to your question is pretty obvious to me, because
it's not difficult to find the answer - considering the not-so-complex
design of OE.

I beg to differ. Especially when you're (I'm) not sure what exactly the
thing you're (I'm) looking for looks like. And remember MS and its tendency
to throw options here-and-there and give them obscure names ? Yeah, those
people. :-)

In other words, even though I did look (as far as I know) everywhere, its
quite possible that I simply missed the required setting.

Ofcourse, having just battled to try to disable the "search from the address
bar" in the *file* explorer, only to be told that the setting for that is
only reachable in *internet* explorer does not help either (that it doesn't
actually do what it says it will do is another ****up altogether). :-(

Just because I don't have proof that there's no setting for it, doesn't
mean that I don't know the answer.

I'm sorry, but in my book that is *exactly* what it means.

To be blunt about it, I was trying to get something more definitive than my
own observations (and secretly hoping I would be proven wrong :-) ).

I can't possibly show you things that don't exist.

I've got one word for you: imagination. :-p

But I understand what you say there. The problem with it is *how* you come
to that "doesn't exist" conclusion. Do you know because it isn't in the
description of the product, or just because you could not find it when you
(just now?) looked for it ? Quite a distinction ...

I already did the latter myself, and am now looking for the former.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
"JJ" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 22:44:24 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:

What do you mean ? Where the developpers of that era stupider than the
ones
outof this era than ?

It's not that they're stupider. It's just that Microsoft is usually
reluctant to add minor features.

Simply said, JJ does not seem to know the answer. But maybe there is
someone else here who does. Thats all.

IMO, the answer to your question is pretty obvious to me, because it's not
difficult to find the answer - considering the not-so-complex design of
OE.

Just because I don't have proof that there's no setting for it, doesn't
mean
that I don't know the answer. I can't possibly show you things that don't
exist.