Experiencing same problem for 3 years now... this is just ridiculo

before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since, i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock, underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so, im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

regardless of what it is, is there anyone that can help me out with this?

....UT3 is unreal tournament 3...

"sgopus" wrote:

What is UT3??


"whtstwthwindws" wrote:

before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since, i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock, underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so, im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

regardless of what it is, is there anyone that can help me out with this???

....UT3 is unreal tournament 3...

"sgopus" wrote:

What is UT3??


"whtstwthwindws" wrote:

before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since, i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock, underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so, im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

the best way to approach
this would be to start with
a clean installation of
windows.

if the game requires sp2, then
only install and integrate windows
sp2 into your o.s.

if your game is limited to sp1, then
only have windows and sp1 installed
on your pc.

if you game requires a framework,
then ensure you have the one
version of framework installed.

then install your game.

having only windows and your
game installed, will be easier for you
to figure out the problem.

g.l.
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"whtstwthwindws" wrote in message
...
before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since, i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock, underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so, im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

Have you tried any of the gaming forums for advice? Maybe you need a patch
or just get rid of UT3. See this
http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=14656

--

Xandros


"whtstwthwindws" wrote in message
...
before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since,
i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock,
underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that
for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different
was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so,
im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a
while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of
the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide
to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any
way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

It is a game UT3 = Ultimate Tournament 3

--

Xandros


"sgopus" wrote in message
...
What is UT3??


"whtstwthwindws" wrote:

before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in
advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever
since, i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought
it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock,
underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that
for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different
was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so,
im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a
while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance.
no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of
the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide
to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any
way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors
fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

If after reseating the video and memory cards you still have the issue you
need to next make sure that it is not a heating problem inside the machine.
After that you start looking at the software.

"whtstwthwindws" wrote in message
...
before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since,
i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock,
underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that
for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different
was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so,
im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a
while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of
the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide
to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any
way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

cooling is adequate... even under load, my gpu stays under 72* C

and its not just a software problem... well not with the game anyway.. ive
had this same problem countless times, after **NUMEROUS** OS reinstalls. UT3
does it, COD4 does it, Mafia does it, Resident Evil 4 does it, FEAR does it,
Morrowind does it, etc...

im gonna rip this computer apart and put it back together... clean the duest
out of it.

hopefully it will change SOMETHING?

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

If after reseating the video and memory cards you still have the issue you
need to next make sure that it is not a heating problem inside the machine.
After that you start looking at the software.

"whtstwthwindws" wrote in message
...
before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since,
i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock,
underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save that
for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different
was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so,
im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a
while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of
the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide
to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any
way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

Well, a good house cleaning and reseating cards and connectors while you are
in there should narrow the issues at least. When you say 72C that seems
very warm. What is the temp in the cpu and in the box generally? I think
you may want to look at adding some cooling fans.

"whtstwthwindws" wrote in message
...
cooling is adequate... even under load, my gpu stays under 72* C

and its not just a software problem... well not with the game anyway.. ive
had this same problem countless times, after **NUMEROUS** OS reinstalls.
UT3
does it, COD4 does it, Mafia does it, Resident Evil 4 does it, FEAR does
it,
Morrowind does it, etc...

im gonna rip this computer apart and put it back together... clean the
duest
out of it.

hopefully it will change SOMETHING?

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

If after reseating the video and memory cards you still have the issue
you
need to next make sure that it is not a heating problem inside the
machine.
After that you start looking at the software.

"whtstwthwindws" wrote in
message
...
before i start telling my story, i would like tot hank everyone in
advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so i bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever
since,
i
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

this computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. when i bought
it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

so after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock,
underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) i decide to build a new computer, ill save
that
for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was
different
was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but i had to sell it because of financial instabilities.
so,
im
back to my old POS. i installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no
more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a
while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if i can fix this PITA once again. now, while i
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. i get flawless performance.
no
crashes

but as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one
of
the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just
decide
to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? my PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any
way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processors
fast...enough,
right??

please if anyone can help me i will be ever so grateful!!!!

"whtstwthwindws" wrote in message
...

as soon as i open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is
one of the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just
decide to
reboot, or sometimes i get the blue screen of death and then reboot.


You probably have to experiment with which version of the video driver
works best with all your software, including games. That latest
version is not necessarily the best. In fact, often the latest
version will cause problems with older games. Look at the video
maker's web site and see how far back you can get versions of their
drivers. Then start walking back my major version numbers until the
problem goes away, and then increment forward through the minor
version numbers until the problem reappears, and then back off an
incremental minor version to the one that last worked okay.

Usually it is a video driver problem that causes the game to crash
(and might take the OS with it). Sometimes it might be the audio
driver, especially if you expect onboard audio (on an old mobo) to
correctly emulate EAX (so you might try disabling EAX in the game
whether it is a menu option or you have to edit a .cfg file).

whtstwthwindws wrote:
Before I start telling my story, I would like to thank everyone in advance
for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with this...

ok so I bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever since, I
have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

This computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. When I bought it,
it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

So after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock, underclocking,
buying better cooling options, messing with voltages, testing my PSU
countless times, etc...) I decide to build a new computer, ill save that for
a different time, but basically, all that computer had that was different was
a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had ANY problem with it
WHATSOEVER! but I had to sell it because of financial instabilities. so, I'm
back to my old POS. I installed the new Vista Ultimate and Voila! no more
crashing when playing games! Now, the computer crashed every once in a while,
getting better but VERY annoying when trying to develop software and in
gaming.

So, back to XP to see if I can fix this PITA once again. now, while I
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. I get flawless performance. no
crashes

but as soon as I open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of the
better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just decide to
reboot, or sometimes I get the blue screen of death and then reboot.

what is my problem, guys? My PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any way
to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processor's fast.. enough,
right??

Please if anyone can help me I will be ever so grateful!!!!

As a test, lower graphics hardware and sound hardware acceleration. If
one helps, a different driver might help. Look for a BIOS upgrade too.

--
Joe =o)

whtstwthwindws wrote:

im gonna rip this computer apart and put it back together... clean the duest
out of it.

Why not stop the overclocking and see if that helps.

I'm with Uncle Grumpy on this one. Running at 72C in the gpu suggests
overclocking to the point of instability.

"Elmo" wrote in message
...
whtstwthwindws wrote:
Before I start telling my story, I would like to thank everyone in
advance for taking their time to read my post and comment/help me with
this...

ok so I bought my computer a little more than 3 years ago, and ever
since, I have been experiencing random crashes when playing games.

This computer was bought for the sole purpose of gaming. When I bought
it, it was a mid-level gaming computer.

Specs:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Overclocked to 2.42 Ghz)
eVGA nVidia 6600 GT PCI-e
DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case (w/PSU)

So after much troubleshooting, (overclocking, factory clock,
underclocking, buying better cooling options, messing with voltages,
testing my PSU countless times, etc...) I decide to build a new computer,
ill save that for a different time, but basically, all that computer had
that was different was a Intel P4 LGA775 instead of AMD. I NEVER EVER had
ANY problem with it WHATSOEVER! but I had to sell it because of financial
instabilities. so, I'm back to my old POS. I installed the new Vista
Ultimate and Voila! no more crashing when playing games! Now, the
computer crashed every once in a while, getting better but VERY annoying
when trying to develop software and in gaming.

So, back to XP to see if I can fix this PITA once again. now, while I
program, image edit, listen to music, etc.. I get flawless performance.
no crashes

but as soon as I open up UT3 and start a game,

"UT3.exe has experienced a problem and needs to close." - this is one of
the better forms of my game coming to a halt. sometimes, it will just
decide to reboot, or sometimes I get the blue screen of death and then
reboot.

what is my problem, guys? My PSU is good, (tested at idle, is there any
way to test at load?), my drivers are up-to-date, my processor's fast..
enough, right??

Please if anyone can help me I will be ever so grateful!!!!

As a test, lower graphics hardware and sound hardware acceleration. If
one helps, a different driver might help. Look for a BIOS upgrade too.

--
Joe =o)

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
I'm with Uncle Grumpy on this one. Running at 72C in the gpu
suggests overclocking to the point of instability.


Yes, a high temperature but not for these video card types (and why
users often replace the standard cooling with something a lot better).

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...00gt-oc_8.html

But I would suggest replacing the stock heatsink and fan with a better
setup.

Yeah, the way I figure it if the gpu was running at 72C at the time he was
replying to a post, then it must have been getting very hot when he was
running one of the games he listed. Gamers often overclock and that may be
the real source of the problem. He needs more cooling.

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
I'm with Uncle Grumpy on this one. Running at 72C in the gpu suggests
overclocking to the point of instability.


Yes, a high temperature but not for these video card types (and why users
often replace the standard cooling with something a lot better).

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...00gt-oc_8.html

But I would suggest replacing the stock heatsink and fan with a better
setup.