LKGC question

I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now, it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


Debbie

These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to Local
Services.

Most PCs I've seen have : -

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet003

....and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003 is a
backup.

You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet or
ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced automatically in
the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does not change.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
now, it makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


Debbie

These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to Local
Services.

Most PCs I've seen have : -

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet003

....and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003 is a
backup.

You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet or
ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced automatically in
the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does not change.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is
now, it makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


Debbie

So is that why my LKGC is messed up? How do I fix it?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//LKGC.jpg

Debbie

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to Local
Services.

Most PCs I've seen have : -

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet003

...and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003 is
a backup.

You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet
or ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced
automatically in the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does
not change.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


Debbie

So is that why my LKGC is messed up? How do I fix it?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//LKGC.jpg

Debbie

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to Local
Services.

Most PCs I've seen have : -

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet003

...and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003 is
a backup.

You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet
or ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced
automatically in the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does
not change.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.


Debbie

Why is it you think LKGC *is* messed up??

The Last Known Good Configuration does have something to do with the
Hardware Profile stored in : -

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControlSet

The data contained within this registry key is actually stored in a single
file on your system called : -

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system

(no extension), and it is a backup of this file contained within the folder
: -

C:\WINDOWS\repair

....that replaces the old copy when you choose the LKGC option after
pressing the [F8] key at boot.

The only way LKGC will not work is if there is no "system" file in the
"C:\WINDOWS\repair" directory!

If you feel that you want the ability to backup / restore the WinXP
registry files, you could do worse than download and read through the
documentation of the free application - ERUNT.exe Available by clicking on
the link below :

http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe

Also, I would learn how to install / use the Windows Recovery Console
(install by inserting the XP cd and typing "D:\i386\winnt32.exe /cmdcons"
into the "Run" box on the start menu) - where [D:] is the drive-letter of
your cd-rom drive.

Look up "Recovery Console" in the WinXP Help and Support Center.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
So is that why my LKGC is messed up? How do I fix it?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//LKGC.jpg

Debbie

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to
Local Services.

Most PCs I've seen have : -

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet003

...and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003
is a backup.

You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet
or ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced
automatically in the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does
not change.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
read where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
many? Which one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
way it is now, it makes most of my programs useless and have to
reinstall them.


Debbie

Why is it you think LKGC *is* messed up??

The Last Known Good Configuration does have something to do with the
Hardware Profile stored in : -

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\CurrentControlSet

The data contained within this registry key is actually stored in a single
file on your system called : -

C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system

(no extension), and it is a backup of this file contained within the folder
: -

C:\WINDOWS\repair

....that replaces the old copy when you choose the LKGC option after
pressing the [F8] key at boot.

The only way LKGC will not work is if there is no "system" file in the
"C:\WINDOWS\repair" directory!

If you feel that you want the ability to backup / restore the WinXP
registry files, you could do worse than download and read through the
documentation of the free application - ERUNT.exe Available by clicking on
the link below :

http://www.aumha.org/downloads/erunt-setup.exe

Also, I would learn how to install / use the Windows Recovery Console
(install by inserting the XP cd and typing "D:\i386\winnt32.exe /cmdcons"
into the "Run" box on the start menu) - where [D:] is the drive-letter of
your cd-rom drive.

Look up "Recovery Console" in the WinXP Help and Support Center.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
So is that why my LKGC is messed up? How do I fix it?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//LKGC.jpg

Debbie

"Tim Meddick" wrote in message
...
These registry keys are basically the system's hardware profiles.

Changes made in Device Manager are stored here, and also changes to
Local Services.

Most PCs I've seen have : -

CurrentControlSet
ControlSet001
ControlSet003

...and NOT a ControlSet002 !!

But you're right, in that they're are 3 of them.

ControlSet001 is an exact copy of CurrentControlSet, and ControlSet003
is a backup.

You will find that whatever changes you make to either CurrentControlSet
or ControlSet001 will be immediately reflected and reproduced
automatically in the other set. While the last set, ControlSet003, does
not change.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-)




"Debbie Graham" wrote in message
...
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I
read where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of
them ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too
many? Which one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the
way it is now, it makes most of my programs useless and have to
reinstall them.


Debbie

On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now, it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results. I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many? Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now, it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
again a few days ago and it's the same exact
configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install had
to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did a
year ago.

Debbie


"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
again a few days ago and it's the same exact
configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install had
to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did a
year ago.

Debbie


"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

Also I just found this, under ControlSet001 my ATI driver and graphics card
stuff is there but under ControlSet002 it isn't. So is the ControlSet002
that keeps loading for me when I use the LKGC? How do I fix it?

Debbie

"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

Also I just found this, under ControlSet001 my ATI driver and graphics card
stuff is there but under ControlSet002 it isn't. So is the ControlSet002
that keeps loading for me when I use the LKGC? How do I fix it?

Debbie

"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.

No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?

There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
not affect installed software.

John

Debbie Graham wrote:
That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
again a few days ago and it's the same exact
configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install had
to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did a
year ago.

Debbie


"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John

What does the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select key tell you? Which
Control set is the LKGC and which is the current?

There is something else wrong with the machine, unless programs run as
services or rely on certain drivers (some like AV software do, but most
don't) programs don't or should not record anything in the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM key and using a different Control Set should
not affect installed software.

John

Debbie Graham wrote:
That's just it John. I used the LKGC last year sometime and just used it
again a few days ago and it's the same exact
configuaration from a year ago. My graphics card drivers (ATI) is non
existent, my AVG antivirus had to be reinstalled my new printer install had
to be installed all over again, plus a few other programs of mine.
Something is wrong, I should not have the same configuration now as I did a
year ago.

Debbie


"John John - MVP" wrote in message
...
On 8/21/2010 11:17 PM, Debbie Graham wrote:
I have asked this question before but haven't had any positive results.
I
just had to use the LKGC and it was like from a year or so ago. I read
where the ControlSets have something to do with it. I have 3 of them
ControlSet001, ControlSet002 and ControlSet003. Do I have too many?
Which
one would be the right more recent one? When I use it the way it is now,
it
makes most of my programs useless and have to reinstall them.
No, you don't have too many control sets and the Last Known Good
Configuration that you used was *not* from a year ago... unless the
computer ran for a whole year without being rebooted. If the computer
boots properly today and if you turn it off tonight, today's boot
configuration (right after a user logs on) will be the Last Known Good
Configuration the next time the computer is booted. Consult the
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Select to know which control set is the LKGC.

John