Microsoft 'Confirms' Windows 7 New Monthly Charge

Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-02-13 10:11, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
If it fixed some of the flaws of MS Word, such as the lack of
fine-grained control

Just curious, what do you mean by "fine-grained control"?

(BTW was a WP user back at the ol' 5.1 days but 6.0 killed it for me...)

trimmed the conspiracy, no string connected pin-ups on my wall


Show Codes level, which also makes it easy to move the Box anchor if
expedient.


Ah, you mean they still show the underlining formatting codes like the
old DOS days? Other than viewing field codes which you can in Word and
Writer seems an easy way to bugger a document. A kin to debug editing a
file, powerful but risky and not often needed.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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On 2/12/19 12:44 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:


I pay $40/month for unlimited data and text. But at a cost of
only 100 minutes a month. And they don't roll over. For me, this has
not been an issue.
Oh, after a set amount of data, it goes from 4G LTE to 3G. But
there is no additional cost for me. I've yet to reach the limit, so
this is also not an issue for me.

I'm on Verizon. They say they're going to eliminate 2G and 3G at the end
of the year (voice calls will use VOLTE). I wonder what they're going to
then.

volte has been in use for several years.

Yes. What does that have to do with "goes from 4G LTE to 3G" when there
is no 3G?

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

On 2/12/19 1:18 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Mark Lloyd
writes:
On 2/11/19 9:30 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]

Since the executables don't have access to the
physical layer on disk drives, commercial software
attempting to write license patterns in places they
shouldn't, are blocked.

I think that's what happened when I had a dual boot (Win and Linux on
the same disk). Some Windows program messed up the bootloader.

[snip]

Are you sure it wasn't some Linux program? [stir, stir ... (-:]

The last thing I did before the failure to boot was to update a Windows
program.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

On 2/12/19 1:34 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 2/11/19 9:30 PM, Paul wrote:

[snip]

Since the executables don't have access to the
physical layer on disk drives, commercial software
attempting to write license patterns in places they
shouldn't, are blocked.

I think that's what happened when I had a dual boot (Win and Linux on
the same disk). Some Windows program messed up the bootloader.

I remember something (uhh, WOW? ... maybe?) deleting boot.ini.

A dual-boot (Win/Lin) system boots first to the Linux bootloader which
then loads the Windows bootloader. A Windows file shouldn't prevent
booting Linux.

[snip junk]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

In article , Mark Lloyd
wrote:

I pay $40/month for unlimited data and text. But at a cost of
only 100 minutes a month. And they don't roll over. For me, this has
not been an issue.
Oh, after a set amount of data, it goes from 4G LTE to 3G. But
there is no additional cost for me. I've yet to reach the limit, so
this is also not an issue for me.

I'm on Verizon. They say they're going to eliminate 2G and 3G at the end
of the year (voice calls will use VOLTE). I wonder what they're going to
then.

volte has been in use for several years.

Yes. What does that have to do with "goes from 4G LTE to 3G" when there
is no 3G?

that only happens if you reach the data cap, which you said you have
never done, so as you also said, it's not an issue.

and what they'll do is simply throttle lte speeds. switching to cdma
just makes that easier.

In message , 123456789
writes:
[]
In my state (AZ/US) it is the same. Even though the car may have the
right of way, the driver must still *TRY* to avoid hitting any
pedestrian, even if the pedestrian is in the wrong (such as walking
against a red light). If the collision does occur, the offending
pedestrian would be listed as 'at fault' in the accident report and (if
he survives) issued a traffic citation.
[]
I'm pleased to hear the last line, at least.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Never be led astray onto the path of virtue.

On 2/12/19 3:42 PM, nospam wrote:

[snip]

i was taught to follow at least 3 seconds behind.

I usually hear 2, but feel better with 3.

of course, that never happens in the real world, which is one reason
why there are so many crashes.

Yes.

I remember driving in Dallas TX, and comparing the highway to a parking
lot at 60MPH. Cars were almost that close.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

On 2/12/19 4:46 PM, Char Jackson wrote:

[snip]

Maybe if you'd slow down you wouldn't have "so many crashes".

Slow down, and somebody passes you, re-creating the problem.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

On 2/12/19 5:42 PM, nospam wrote:

[snip]

driving too fast for conditions and not paying attention is.

Considering "driving too fast for conditions":

Where I used to live (north Texas) they has a poll in the paper that
asked "Are you afraid to drive on icy roads?", where people were allowed
to leave comments. Many of them were "No, just afraid of other people
who drive on icy roads".

My mother (from Montana) mentioned that driving on icy roads was safer
there, since people knew how to do it right.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

On 2/12/19 7:02 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:

[snip]

Person A: "It was sunny yesterday!"
nospam: "not last night, it wasn't!"



Bang on, Char.

Dammit!

I at first wrote that but then thought it was unnecessarily
provocative and deleted it.

(-:

I have deleted a post, but not before someone replied so my words
weren't really deleted.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

In message , Mark Lloyd
writes:
On 2/12/19 7:02 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:

[snip]

Person A: "It was sunny yesterday!"
nospam: "not last night, it wasn't!"



Bang on, Char.

Dammit!
I at first wrote that but then thought it was unnecessarily
provocative and deleted it.
(-:

I have deleted a post, but not before someone replied so my words
weren't really deleted.

Even if they hadn't, I doubt you have "deleted your post": unless the
server you are using honours delete requests _and_ processed it before
communicating with its peers, there is little you can do to delete a
post.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Never be led astray onto the path of virtue.

On 2/13/19 3:54 AM, KWills Shill #3 wrote:

[snip]

I'm on T-Mobile through Metro PCS. I admit I don't pay attention
to its plans for 2G and 3G termination. If it becomes an issue, I'll
face it then.

It might somewhere there aren't enough 4G towers. I have an older phone
(2G/3G only) that will need to be replaced, but I'll wait until later to
replace it because of that possibility.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"[Fundamentalists] never wonder why, if herpes is sent by 'god' to
scourge "adulterers," whooping cough and measles weren't purposely
created to lambaste children." [Fred Woodworth]

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:21:22 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2019-02-13 10:11, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
If it fixed some of the flaws of MS Word, such as the lack of
fine-grained control

Just curious, what do you mean by "fine-grained control"?

(BTW was a WP user back at the ol' 5.1 days but 6.0 killed it for me...)

trimmed the conspiracy, no string connected pin-ups on my wall


Show Codes level, which also makes it easy to move the Box anchor if
expedient.



I agree completely about Reveal Codes. It makes it easier to do many
things, and that's one of the main reasons I prefer it to Microsoft
Word.

But oddly enough, that's the thing about WordPerfect that many people
*don't * like, and has turned them away from it. That makes no sense
to me, for two reasons: first, it's a great feature, in my view;
second, if you don't like it, don't turn it on--it's optional.

And referring to Jonathan N. Little's comment, "6.0 killed it for me,"
I agree that it was a very poor release with lots of problems. But
that was just a single version that didn't last very long, and its
problems are long gone.

I run WordPerfect X7. It's hardly any different from the two or three
versions before it, and the two newer versions, X8 and X9, are also
almost the same as those. I've seen no reason to upgrade.

I think most of the people who use Microsoft Word these days use it in
preference to WordPerfect for two reasons: it has the name "Microsoft"
attached to it; many computer vendors include it as a trial version in
the computers they sell. Probably most Word users don't even know
WordPerfect exists, or if they do, know next to nothing about it and
how it compares to Word.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 12:16:36 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 2/12/19 5:42 PM, nospam wrote:

[snip]

driving too fast for conditions and not paying attention is.

Considering "driving too fast for conditions":

Where I used to live (north Texas) they has a poll in the paper that
asked "Are you afraid to drive on icy roads?", where people were allowed
to leave comments. Many of them were "No, just afraid of other people
who drive on icy roads".



I've long been amused by statements like "you should drive slower on
wet roads."

People think that's the safe thing to do. But say exactly the same
thing in reverse, "you should drive faster on dry roads," and most
people would think it's the dangerous thing to do.

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:



I've long been amused by statements like "you should drive slower on
wet roads."

People think that's the safe thing to do. But say exactly the same
thing in reverse, "you should drive faster on dry roads," and most
people would think it's the dangerous thing to do.

they don't think that at all, and in fact, that's exactly what they do.