Zero-day Windows bug problem worse than first thought, says expert

On 08/22/2010 08:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/22/2010 11:16 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 07:46 PM, Frank wrote:

Windows 7 is the very best OS available today.

The dumb **** doesn't know that "best" is an adjective and therefore an
*opinion*, one that is shared with many and not with many others.

You dumb ****, it's a *FACT*, something you can't deal with.

No, what's best for one person may not be best for another. Variety is
the spice of life yet you would prefer a monopoly and consider it to be
"best".

--
Alias

On 8/22/2010 11:37 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 08:25 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/22/2010 10:41 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 07:37 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/22/2010 4:19 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/21/2010 08:14 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/21/2010 10:17 AM, Alias wrote:
Boscoe wrote:
On 21/08/2010 5:44 PM, Alias wrote:
On 08/21/2010 06:27 PM, Boscoe wrote:
On 21/08/2010 3:56 PM, Alias wrote:

Oh dear, another windroid who doesn't understand Linux
architecture.
It's not a smile but a smirk.



You're an ignorant fool. Linux not susceptible to malware or
rootkits...?


http://news.techworld.com/security/3226723/linux-trojan-hits-unreal-irc-raises-malware-concerns/?olo=rss














That's all you got? LOL! One possible threat that's been patched,
requires user input and wasn't/isn't in the repositories. From
your
article:

"The difference is that the way the Linux OS is written makes it
harder
to exploit a vulnerability, and that is because its open source
vulnerabilities are fixed in hours rather than months."

When I install Linux for someone, I tell them to only install
software
from the repositories. Any OS can be ****ed up by a fool. Windows,
OTOH,
has drive by malware and a Windows machine can be infected without
user
input. IOW, Linux is *bulletproof* compared to Windows. Note I
wrote
"compared". No OS is completely bulletproof.


Just one example. How much malware specifically written for Windows
with
billions of users against those specifically written for Linux,
witch
has less than 1% of the market? It doesn't need to be bulletproof
does
it, because no-one's bothered!!

You're repeating yourself. Bad sign, what with the same typo.

No, you are the one who keeps repeating himself. You keep posting the
same **** and what do you think or want to happen? Do you actually
think
that everyone in here will suddenly switch to that POS toy os
you're so
in love with? Think again...cause it ain't gonna happen. And if
Windows
7 is so venerable to being infected, then explain why none of us in
here
are infected nor have we ever been infected.
Well...care to address those real questions?
BTW, have you ever noticed how everyone in here, other than a few of
your butt-buddies, hate your ****ing lying, linturd guts?
Oops!

Once again Frank the Wank reveals that he didn't read the article
about
the vulnerabilities that have NOT been patched and only focused on
Linux.

Once again alias tries to change the subject cause he can't deal with
the truth.
Figures. You stupid sheep-****ing lying asshole loser.



You're the one who changed the subject to Linux, not me, chum.

Re-read your original post, you lying POS.
Oops!

I am glad I use Linux but the post was about a threat to every single
version of WINDOWS.

Just where did it say that?
Oops, it didn't. Go **** yourself or have babba do it for you, you lying
loser!

On 8/22/2010 11:39 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 08:28 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/22/2010 11:15 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 07:42 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/22/2010 4:24 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/21/2010 08:18 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/21/2010 10:18 AM, Alias wrote:
nooneyouknow wrote:

"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Boscoe" wrote in message news:f8Tbo.10484$yY6.9224@hurricane...

On 21/08/2010 3:56 PM, Alias wrote:

Oh dear, another windroid who doesn't understand Linux
architecture.
It's not a smile but a smirk.



You're an ignorant fool. Linux not susceptible to malware or
rootkits...?


http://news.techworld.com/security/3226723/linux-trojan-hits-unreal-irc-raises-malware-concerns/?olo=rss










Susceptible yes. Attacked? NO!


The malware writers don't consider a few hundred linux lusers a big
enough target.

Try over 30 million and growing.

Only in your dreams. And those who use linux are broke and don't have
anything the thieves would want.

Um, according to what you and the nymshifter quote, there's 1 percent
market share for Linux. There are 5 billion devices connected to the
Internet. That means my figure should have been 50,000,000 and
growing.

You and math don';t compute. prove your numbers or just STFU.

Um, I'm using your numbers.

LIAR! I've not posted any numbers.

Yes you have.

You are such a lair and it doesn't
seem to bother you in the least.

"lair"? You're losing it again, Frank. Maybe if you stop worrying about
others' panties, you will improve because your panties are in a terrible
twist.


After all, linux is free, yet still not worth anything.

Goes to show what you know about Linux: nothing.

My statement isn't true? Of course it is but you can't accept the
truth.
What a POS liar you are.

No, it isn't true when you consider how many governments and government
departments use Linux.

How many would that be? Post only verifiable info or else just STFU.

Google for it if you know how. LOL!...Oops.


Red Hat is for enterprise users.

Only? I don't think so.

I didn't write "only". You can use it if you want but the majority of
users are enterprise users.


Ergo, you're the
liar again.

You're the known and admitted liar, liar.
Oops!

"Admitted"? You lie when you accuse others of lying.



Linux servers are indeed a big enough
target but thanks for playing and revealing your total ignorance.

Sorry sheep-****er, but there are plenty of cases where linux servers
where compromised.
Oops!


Compared to Windows servers, the number is minuscule.

You really don't have any solid data to back up your linturd lies.
Oops!

I don't see you backing up any of your statements. When asked, you will
invariably reply with "Use Google if you know how. LOL!...oops."

Keep dancing...you're the expert at dancing.


This from the back pedal break dancer.


Projecting as usual, huh?
Figures.

"Alias" .¡nvalido wrote in message
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On 08/22/2010 07:46 PM, Frank wrote:

Windows 7 is the very best OS available today.

The dumb **** doesn't know that "best" is an adjective and therefore an
*opinion*, one that is shared with many and not with many others.

--
Alias

Actually it can be an adjective ,adverb, noun or verb.
( runs and hides)
Susan

On 8/22/2010 11:41 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 08:30 PM, Frank wrote:
On 8/22/2010 11:16 AM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 07:46 PM, Frank wrote:

Windows 7 is the very best OS available today.

The dumb **** doesn't know that "best" is an adjective and therefore an
*opinion*, one that is shared with many and not with many others.

You dumb ****, it's a *FACT*, something you can't deal with.

No, what's best for one person may not be best for another.

Sorry dickhead, but in this case the most popular, the most used is the
very best OS available today...Windows 7.
Live with sheep-****er.

Variety is
the spice of life yet you would prefer a monopoly and consider it to be
"best".

hehehe...is "variety" how you got hepatitis C?
Figures.
Oops!

On 8/22/2010 11:58 AM, Susan wrote:


"Alias" .¡nvalido wrote in message
...
On 08/22/2010 07:46 PM, Frank wrote:

Windows 7 is the very best OS available today.

The dumb **** doesn't know that "best" is an adjective and therefore
an *opinion*, one that is shared with many and not with many others.

--
Alias

Actually it can be an adjective ,adverb, noun or verb.
( runs and hides)
Susan

alias is an expert at lying in almost proper English...almost proper
English.

On 08/22/2010 08:58 PM, Susan wrote:


"Alias" .¡nvalido wrote in message
...
On 08/22/2010 07:46 PM, Frank wrote:

Windows 7 is the very best OS available today.

The dumb **** doesn't know that "best" is an adjective and therefore
an *opinion*, one that is shared with many and not with many others.

--
Alias

Actually it can be an adjective ,adverb, noun or verb.
( runs and hides)
Susan

True but Frank was using it as an adjective which, of course, is a
subjective opinion, not a fact. In short, he was bested again but will
deny it as best he can, at which he isn't exactly the best.

--
Alias

It has its downside, but I prefer the freedom of
using what I want.

So those that use Linux shouldn't have the freedom of
using what *they* want ?

They want to download a game in .exe form.
Tell them how.
Don't forget...they are used to double clicking on
things.

Tell them how to install something ?

OK.....

From that page d/l the .rpm or .deb to the desktop.

Double-click the .rpm or .deb file they just d/l'd.

Enter p/w when the UAC-like prompt opens.

Whatever it is, installs.

And that's different from Windows how ?

(Other than a different extension....and people dbl-click
on any file regardless of it's extension.)


Although similar, one huge difference remains.
Quality programs someone would actually want end in .exe.

That's just some pre-conceived notion you'll have to get over.



Also, with the .deb and .rpm program, you need to kinda
hope you have the required dependencies.
Me downloading a gnome app into kde is gonna require me to
DL all kinds of gnome dependencies.

Or, more accurately, d/l'g a GNOME app into KDE will result in
the package manager asking you if it's OK to d/l the required
files from GNOME and require one extra click....and....after
d/l'g those files from/for GNOME, you won't be asked again if
you go to install another GNOME



Surf the web with linux , and find something to
install. There's pretty much nothing available.

Why surf the web ? All you need to go is go he

www.linuxappfinder.com

All nicely categorized for you, and searchable, with
d/l links right on the page for certain distros, links
to the s/w's home page, etc.

99% are free and/or Open Source.

Finding s/w for Linux doesn't get any easier than this.

http://live.gnome.org/glChess

Hahahaha.
Just what I want, to be visually bored to death.

Then try OpenArena, or, Urban Assault, although, it
appears that UrbanAssault will only play online, not
locally, as in a 'Single Player Mode'. I've had Quake4
installed on this PC and it ran with higher framerates
using WINE under Linux than it did natively in Windows.
I've consistantly gotten my a** kicked at Urban Assault
because I'm certainly not a gamer.

You just answered part of your own question.

I had no question.

Your not a gamer, so Linux looks alright to you.

Neither are a lot of people...just like the 15 or so people I
used to support......none of them were into playing games.

And there doesn't seem to be any good data on this around the
internet. All the articles I've found regarding 'gaming' for
adults points to the same research study, and that study talks
about 'games' with no differentiation between a jave-based Pogo
game, or a full-blown DX game like Crysis, and additionally
includes all devices that are capable of playing games....PCs,
consoles, phones, portable gamig devices.

But, interestingly enough, your statement above seems to imply
that if you don't really play the latest DX games for Windows,
some Linux distro could be 'alright' for home users.

On 8/22/2010 12:33 PM, Alias wrote:
On 08/22/2010 08:58 PM, Susan wrote:


"Alias" .¡nvalido wrote in message
...
On 08/22/2010 07:46 PM, Frank wrote:

Windows 7 is the very best OS available today.

The dumb **** doesn't know that "best" is an adjective and therefore
an *opinion*, one that is shared with many and not with many others.

--
Alias

Actually it can be an adjective ,adverb, noun or verb.
( runs and hides)
Susan

True but Frank was using it as an adjective which, of course, is a
subjective opinion, not a fact.

Keep digging, the hole you're in gets deeper with each post.

In short, he was bested again but will
deny it as best he can, at which he isn't exactly the best.

You have never, ever, "bested" me at anything or at anytime.
But keep trying as you seem to not give a damn about making a fool out
of yourself in here.
Oops!

On 8/22/2010 12:43 PM, DanS wrote:

It has its downside, but I prefer the freedom of
using what I want.

So those that use Linux shouldn't have the freedom of
using what *they* want ?

They want to download a game in .exe form.
Tell them how.
Don't forget...they are used to double clicking on
things.

Tell them how to install something ?

OK.....

From that page d/l the .rpm or .deb to the desktop.

Double-click the .rpm or .deb file they just d/l'd.

Enter p/w when the UAC-like prompt opens.

Whatever it is, installs.

And that's different from Windows how ?

(Other than a different extension....and people dbl-click
on any file regardless of it's extension.)


Although similar, one huge difference remains.
Quality programs someone would actually want end in .exe.

That's just some pre-conceived notion you'll have to get over.

That is a fact you seem unable to accept or deal with.



Also, with the .deb and .rpm program, you need to kinda
hope you have the required dependencies.
Me downloading a gnome app into kde is gonna require me to
DL all kinds of gnome dependencies.

Or, more accurately, d/l'g a GNOME app into KDE will result in
the package manager asking you if it's OK to d/l the required
files from GNOME and require one extra click....and....after
d/l'g those files from/for GNOME, you won't be asked again if
you go to install another GNOME



Surf the web with linux , and find something to
install. There's pretty much nothing available.

Why surf the web ? All you need to go is go he

www.linuxappfinder.com

All nicely categorized for you, and searchable, with
d/l links right on the page for certain distros, links
to the s/w's home page, etc.

99% are free and/or Open Source.

Finding s/w for Linux doesn't get any easier than this.

http://live.gnome.org/glChess

Hahahaha.
Just what I want, to be visually bored to death.

Then try OpenArena, or, Urban Assault, although, it
appears that UrbanAssault will only play online, not
locally, as in a 'Single Player Mode'. I've had Quake4
installed on this PC and it ran with higher framerates
using WINE under Linux than it did natively in Windows.
I've consistantly gotten my a** kicked at Urban Assault
because I'm certainly not a gamer.

You just answered part of your own question.

I had no question.

Your not a gamer, so Linux looks alright to you.

Neither are a lot of people...just like the 15 or so people I
used to support......none of them were into playing games.

Which means...nothing. That number (15) is far too small to extrapolate
and usable market projections.

And there doesn't seem to be any good data on this around the
internet. All the articles I've found regarding 'gaming' for
adults points to the same research study, and that study talks
about 'games' with no differentiation between a jave-based Pogo
game, or a full-blown DX game like Crysis, and additionally
includes all devices that are capable of playing games....PCs,
consoles, phones, portable gamig devices.

But, interestingly enough, your statement above seems to imply
that if you don't really play the latest DX games for Windows,
some Linux distro could be 'alright' for home users.

No, that what you seem to want to imply.

In article 31,
says...


It has its downside, but I prefer the freedom of
using what I want.

So those that use Linux shouldn't have the freedom of
using what *they* want ?

They want to download a game in .exe form.
Tell them how.
Don't forget...they are used to double clicking on
things.

Tell them how to install something ?

OK.....

From that page d/l the .rpm or .deb to the desktop.

Double-click the .rpm or .deb file they just d/l'd.

Enter p/w when the UAC-like prompt opens.

Whatever it is, installs.

And that's different from Windows how ?

(Other than a different extension....and people dbl-click
on any file regardless of it's extension.)


Although similar, one huge difference remains.
Quality programs someone would actually want end in .exe.

That's just some pre-conceived notion you'll have to get over.



Also, with the .deb and .rpm program, you need to kinda
hope you have the required dependencies.
Me downloading a gnome app into kde is gonna require me to
DL all kinds of gnome dependencies.

Or, more accurately, d/l'g a GNOME app into KDE will result in
the package manager asking you if it's OK to d/l the required
files from GNOME and require one extra click....and....after
d/l'g those files from/for GNOME, you won't be asked again if
you go to install another GNOME



Whoa.
That doesn't happen happen that way with .rpm.
Unless, you are opening the rpm with package manager.

I do the copy to desktop way for OO3, as java support isn't OK with the
Fedora package manager...you get a version of OO approved by fedora that
uses the free sucky version of java, not Sun java.

I then run rpm from the command prompt, install OO3, and the only way
package manager is involved is to block future updates to some uno BS
that will break OO3.

But, you never did describe how to install an .exe.
You veered far around that.

So, back to the original problem.
I want to install Deep Fritz 12.
IN Linux.
Describe that, not some dumbass premade package.


Surf the web with linux , and find something to
install. There's pretty much nothing available.

Why surf the web ? All you need to go is go he

www.linuxappfinder.com

All nicely categorized for you, and searchable, with
d/l links right on the page for certain distros, links
to the s/w's home page, etc.

99% are free and/or Open Source.

Finding s/w for Linux doesn't get any easier than this.

http://live.gnome.org/glChess

Hahahaha.
Just what I want, to be visually bored to death.

Then try OpenArena, or, Urban Assault, although, it
appears that UrbanAssault will only play online, not
locally, as in a 'Single Player Mode'. I've had Quake4
installed on this PC and it ran with higher framerates
using WINE under Linux than it did natively in Windows.
I've consistantly gotten my a** kicked at Urban Assault
because I'm certainly not a gamer.

You just answered part of your own question.

I had no question.

Your not a gamer, so Linux looks alright to you.

Neither are a lot of people...just like the 15 or so people I
used to support......none of them were into playing games.

And there doesn't seem to be any good data on this around the
internet. All the articles I've found regarding 'gaming' for
adults points to the same research study, and that study talks
about 'games' with no differentiation between a jave-based Pogo
game, or a full-blown DX game like Crysis, and additionally
includes all devices that are capable of playing games....PCs,
consoles, phones, portable gamig devices.

But, interestingly enough, your statement above seems to imply
that if you don't really play the latest DX games for Windows,
some Linux distro could be 'alright' for home users.

I keep mentioning Deep Fritz 12.
I play that all the time.
So, instead of being stupid like alias, how do I ****in install that in
Linux?

In article 31,
says...


SNIP


And there doesn't seem to be any good data on this around the
internet. All the articles I've found regarding 'gaming' for
adults points to the same research study, and that study talks
about 'games' with no differentiation between a jave-based Pogo
game, or a full-blown DX game like Crysis, and additionally
includes all devices that are capable of playing games....PCs,
consoles, phones, portable gamig devices.


Speaking of Pogo...non of those simple java games work in linux sound
wise.
All my PCs running XP,Vista,7 sound works just fine.
Not one linux has good sound.
Funny that.
I'm sure it works for you other linux stooges.

Also, with the .deb and .rpm program, you need to kinda
hope you have the required dependencies.
Me downloading a gnome app into kde is gonna require me
to DL all kinds of gnome dependencies.

Or, more accurately, d/l'g a GNOME app into KDE will
result in the package manager asking you if it's OK to d/l
the required files from GNOME and require one extra
click....and....after d/l'g those files from/for GNOME,
you won't be asked again if you go to install another
GNOME



Whoa.
That doesn't happen happen that way with .rpm.
Unless, you are opening the rpm with package manager.

I'm fairly certain that's what happened when I d/l'd and
installed gtk-recordmydesktop from a .deb d/l.


I do the copy to desktop way for OO3, as java support isn't
OK with the Fedora package manager...you get a version of
OO approved by fedora that uses the free sucky version of
java, not Sun java.

There is no more Sun Java.

Try it...... java.sun.com




I then run rpm from the command prompt, install OO3, and
the only way package manager is involved is to block future
updates to some uno BS that will break OO3.

But, you never did describe how to install an .exe.
You veered far around that.

To install an exe, you Just dbl-click the exe and WINE runs it.


So, back to the original problem.
I want to install Deep Fritz 12.
IN Linux.
Describe that, not some dumbass premade package.

OK. d/l DeepFritz12DL to the desktop.

Dbl-click the exe file and WINE will start the install.

When it's done, there will be 'ChessBase' entry in the WINE menu
item, with 2 items inside.... 'Deep Fritz 12 DL' & 'Deep Fritz
Web Site'.

Of course, that doesn't mean it will run. It seems as though v11
did work under WINE, but not v12.


Surf the web with linux , and find something to
install. There's pretty much nothing available.


snip

that study talks about 'games' with no differentiation
between a jave-based Pogo game, or a full-blown DX game
like Crysis, and additionally includes all devices that
are capable of playing games....PCs, consoles, phones,
portable gamig devices.

But, interestingly enough, your statement above seems to
imply that if you don't really play the latest DX games
for Windows, some Linux distro could be 'alright' for home
users.

I keep mentioning Deep Fritz 12.
I play that all the time.
So, instead of being stupid like alias, how do I ****in
install that in Linux?

I followed the procedure I wrote above. The same way I did it
when I installed 7Zip, IconSearch, IrfanView, and AutoCAD. XNews
doesn't need to be installed, so I just start that by running
xnews.exe right on the Windows partition.

There's already the concession that Linux isn't the best for
games, and no one was *ever* arguing that it was. Alias has even
said for years now that he uses Windows for games.

.....and harping on something that was already agreed upon get's
us nowhere.

On 8/22/2010 3:29 PM, DanS wrote:
Also, with the .deb and .rpm program, you need to kinda
hope you have the required dependencies.
Me downloading a gnome app into kde is gonna require me
to DL all kinds of gnome dependencies.

Or, more accurately, d/l'g a GNOME app into KDE will
result in the package manager asking you if it's OK to d/l
the required files from GNOME and require one extra
click....and....after d/l'g those files from/for GNOME,
you won't be asked again if you go to install another
GNOME



Whoa.
That doesn't happen happen that way with .rpm.
Unless, you are opening the rpm with package manager.

I'm fairly certain that's what happened when I d/l'd and
installed gtk-recordmydesktop from a .deb d/l.


I do the copy to desktop way for OO3, as java support isn't
OK with the Fedora package manager...you get a version of
OO approved by fedora that uses the free sucky version of
java, not Sun java.

There is no more Sun Java.

Try it...... java.sun.com




I then run rpm from the command prompt, install OO3, and
the only way package manager is involved is to block future
updates to some uno BS that will break OO3.

But, you never did describe how to install an .exe.
You veered far around that.

To install an exe, you Just dbl-click the exe and WINE runs it.


So, back to the original problem.
I want to install Deep Fritz 12.
IN Linux.
Describe that, not some dumbass premade package.

OK. d/l DeepFritz12DL to the desktop.

Dbl-click the exe file and WINE will start the install.

When it's done, there will be 'ChessBase' entry in the WINE menu
item, with 2 items inside.... 'Deep Fritz 12 DL'& 'Deep Fritz
Web Site'.

Of course, that doesn't mean it will run. It seems as though v11
did work under WINE, but not v12.


Surf the web with linux , and find something to
install. There's pretty much nothing available.


snip

that study talks about 'games' with no differentiation
between a jave-based Pogo game, or a full-blown DX game
like Crysis, and additionally includes all devices that
are capable of playing games....PCs, consoles, phones,
portable gamig devices.

But, interestingly enough, your statement above seems to
imply that if you don't really play the latest DX games
for Windows, some Linux distro could be 'alright' for home
users.

I keep mentioning Deep Fritz 12.
I play that all the time.
So, instead of being stupid like alias, how do I ****in
install that in Linux?

I followed the procedure I wrote above. The same way I did it
when I installed 7Zip, IconSearch, IrfanView, and AutoCAD. XNews
doesn't need to be installed, so I just start that by running
xnews.exe right on the Windows partition.

There's already the concession that Linux isn't the best for
games, and no one was *ever* arguing that it was. Alias has even
said for years now that he uses Windows for games.

....and harping on something that was already agreed upon get's
us nowhere.



http://java.sun.com

Which takes you to Oracle and Sun

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:28:32 -0400, i76GLappie wrote:

I keep mentioning Deep Fritz 12.
I play that all the time.
So, instead of being stupid like alias, how do I ****in install that in
Linux?

Effin try harder.
http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?
p=47481&sid=2961e043c3614a97149ce7359ab7d218

PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: 64-bit chess
engines and wine 1.2 Reply with quote
James McKenzie wrote:
As it was said before the WindowsOnWindows engine still needs work. Are
you able to run other 32 bit programs from the 64 bit version of Wine?

Right now, you will need a 64 bit and a 32 bit installation of Wine and
separate Wine prefixes for both.

Yes, other 32-bit (chess) programs run well!

As mentioned, the six 32-bit and 64-bit chess engines (Hannibal, Houdini
& Rybka), worked with Suse 11.3. You can test it easy yourself .. just
download (links in my first post), unzip and start the *.exe in terminal
with wine. Then type "uci" and you get some program info. Type "go" for
calculating a move from the start position and "quit" to exit.

BTW, the 32-bit Chessbase download version Deep Fritz 12 installed
without any probem! Very Happy Unfortunately the gui looks a bit
scrambled, but it works too (almost). Confused

-Max



--
Where's the cursor?
Where's the eraser?
Where's the cursor?
Where's the eraser?
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O
G-O-H-O-H-O-9-O
H-O-9-O-G-O-H-O