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Lack of free space, new machine.
"Sharon F" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 23:54:49 +0100, Phil wrote: BTW i am stuck with what command prompt to use in the filelist application you suggested? Place filelist and its DLL into the Windows folder. Open a command prompt window (CMD.EXE) and try: FILELIST C: list.csv The resulting file will show up in Documents and Settings\your account It can be imported to Excel or a similar program. Most database and spreadsheet programs allow you to sort a column by numerical value. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-) It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes. Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe That tells me that I have 84% free space? I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-( |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 01:17:12 +0100, Phil wrote:
Thanks but i had worked ot out eventually :-) It shows a total of 2056321415.00 bytes. Did you see the result i got with the EasyCleaner | Space Usage http://ptm2.cc.utu.fi/ftp/windows/tools/EClea1_7.exe That tells me that I have 84% free space? I removed autoroute, that gave me an extra 1% disk space :-( If we try hard enough, I bet we could get the rest of that drive filled up with more free programs for you to try I hesitate to suggest running chkdsk. If there is a disk problem - physical or just a sick file system - running this tool could make things worse. On the other hand, it might straighten out the weird report of free space. If you have your important data backed up, you may want to give that a try. Also, might want to try hard drive diagnostic tools. These are available from the hard drive manufacturers. They go on a floppy. Boot the machine with the floppy disk and run the tests according to the directions. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
"Phil" wrote in message ... Can you throw any light on this one for me please? I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS) I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space, after a month of use? Where to look to determine the "hog" My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space. What could cause this? Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 54.40 GB Free space = 21.92 GB Percent free space = 28 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation Total files = 296,563 Average file size = 330 KB Total fragmented files = 0 Total excess fragments = 0 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 1,985 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 297 MB MFT record count = 300,838 Percent MFT in use = 98 % Total MFT fragments = 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Phew!!! At last - after using TreeSize http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!! the following post then solved it for me: "You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the "more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will clean up all but the last restore point." Anando Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP The log now shows 94% free space :-) I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of 12%? Thank you to all who contributed! ------- Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 4.47 GB Free space = 71.85 GB Percent free space = 94 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 21,374 Average file size = 233 KB Total fragmented files = 0 Total excess fragments = 0 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 1,400 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 297 MB MFT record count = 22,817 Percent MFT in use = 7 % Total MFT fragments = 3 |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:41:24 +0100, Phil wrote:
Phew!!! At last - after using TreeSize http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!! the following post then solved it for me: "You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the "more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will clean up all but the last restore point." Anando Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP The log now shows 94% free space :-) I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of 12%? Thank you to all who contributed! I'm glad you found the missing space, Peter. Enjoy! -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
"Phil" wrote in message ... Can you throw any light on this one for me please? I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS) I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space, after a month of use? Where to look to determine the "hog" My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space. What could cause this? Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 54.40 GB Free space = 21.92 GB Percent free space = 28 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation Total files = 296,563 Average file size = 330 KB Total fragmented files = 0 Total excess fragments = 0 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 1,985 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 297 MB MFT record count = 300,838 Percent MFT in use = 98 % Total MFT fragments = 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Phew!!! At last - after using TreeSize http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!! the following post then solved it for me: "You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the "more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will clean up all but the last restore point." Anando Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP The log now shows 94% free space :-) I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of 12%? Thank you to all who contributed! ------- Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 4.47 GB Free space = 71.85 GB Percent free space = 94 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation Total files = 21,374 Average file size = 233 KB Total fragmented files = 0 Total excess fragments = 0 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 1,400 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 297 MB MFT record count = 22,817 Percent MFT in use = 7 % Total MFT fragments = 3 |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:41:24 +0100, Phil wrote:
Phew!!! At last - after using TreeSize http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml It showed several restore points, two of which where in excess of 21GB!! the following post then solved it for me: "You can delete all but the last restore point. Go to StartAll programsAccessoriesSystem toolsDisk cleanup. Choose any drive for disk cleanup and when disk cleanup has estimated the files usage, flip to the "more options" tab and click on clean up under system restore. This will clean up all but the last restore point." Anando Microsoft-MVP for Windows XP The log now shows 94% free space :-) I wonder why XP was able to store such large backups when set to a max of 12%? Thank you to all who contributed! I'm glad you found the missing space, Peter. Enjoy! -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
-----Original Message----- Phil, Check out this Microsoft Support page, could be your problem. Drew Thanks Drew, still looking for the link mate :-)) |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
-----Original Message----- System restore is assigned a large chunk, by default. You can reset that to a lower value. Same thing for the Temp files cache. Thanks Jim, already cleared all temp files, except Office set-up files, Sys'Restore is set at 12%, will reduce that after the thread drys up:-) but that 12% would not account for my apparent used space? |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
Three things:
1. Go to "My computer." Right click on the drive. Pick "Properties." Hit "Disk cleanup." (right by the pie chart.) See what temporary, temporary internet, etc. files are taking up. Have it clean those up. (Dont' worry about uninstalls, etc. at the moment.) 2. Right click "My computer." Go to Properties, System Restore. See how much space is taken up *there.* Don't disable it entirely, but you may want to lessen the amount of space this takes up, as well. (Personally, if the system's going to be "stable" for a while, I'll lower it. If I'm about to do updates, I'll give it more room and create a restore point.) 3. You say this is a new computer. OEM? (Gateway, Dell, etc.) See what programs are installed. Do you not use (for instance) Powerpoint? Uninstall it. Remove programs you don't need or use - there's usually a good bit of garbage there. XP *will* take more room than 98, regardless, but these should help you get some space back. "Phil" wrote in message ... Can you throw any light on this one for me please? I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS) I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space, after a month of use? Where to look to determine the "hog" My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space. What could cause this? Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 54.40 GB Free space = 21.92 GB Percent free space = 28 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation Total files = 296,563 Average file size = 330 KB Total fragmented files = 0 Total excess fragments = 0 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 1,985 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 297 MB MFT record count = 300,838 Percent MFT in use = 98 % Total MFT fragments = 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ ---- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 3/31/2004 |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
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-----Original Message----- Three things: 1. Go to "My computer." Right click on the drive. Pick "Properties." Hit "Disk cleanup." (right by the pie chart.) See what temporary, temporary internet, etc. files are taking up. Have it clean those up. (Dont' worry about uninstalls, etc. at the moment.) 289,034 KB (Office setup files) 2. Right click "My computer." Go to Properties, System Restore. See how much space is taken up *there.* 12% 9378 MB. 3. You say this is a new computer. OEM? (Gateway, Dell, etc.) I had it built locally, Sys info says: OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name ******* System Manufacturer ECS System Model M848A System Type X86-based PC Processor x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~1500 Mhz BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 07.00T, 02/04/2001 SMBIOS Version 2.3 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)" User Name ******** Time Zone GMT Daylight Time Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB Available Physical Memory 303.32 MB Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.35 GB Page File Space 1.22 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys NB: (Locale, above states USA, I am in the UK, any need or how to change?) See what programs are installed. 1.71 GB, Total |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 03:14:07 -0700, Phil wrote:
Can you throw any light on this one for me please? I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS) I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space, after a month of use? Where to look to determine the "hog" My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space. What could cause this? Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 54.40 GB Free space = 21.92 GB Percent free space = 28 % Reduce the allotted size for Recycle Bin, System Restore and Temporary Internet Files. Check Temp folders for leftovers. The default paths a Windows\Temp Documents and Settings\you\Local Settings\Temp Use Folder Options View to show hidden and system files. Also change the setting for system protected files to "not hide." You'll be able to see more of what's on your hard drive this way. After examining these things, you can change the settings back if you'd like. You are going to find a rather large file called hiberfil.sys. The size of this file cannot be changed and will equal to the amount of RAM installed on the system. When you hibernate the laptop, the file is used to store the contents of RAM so that the machine can be restored to the working state it was in when the laptop went into hibernation. Review Add/Remove Programs and uninstall items you don't use. Review Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components as well. I have a year old Tablet PC with a 40GB hard drive. I still have quite a bit of hard drive space available even with some hefty programs installed (Office 2003 and its backup files; Photoshop; Painter). I make an effort to keep my mail storage down. Outlook is configured to leave messages on the server so that 1) I can delete mail as I read it 2) Anything important will be downloaded later to the main desktop computer (and removed from the email server). Other large data files are regularly shuttled off to the desktop or to CDs. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
Reduce the allotted size for Recycle Bin, System Restore and Temporary Internet Files. Check Temp folders for leftovers. The default paths a Windows\Temp Documents and Settings\you\Local Settings\Temp Use Folder Options View to show hidden and system files. Also change the setting for system protected files to "not hide." You'll be able to see more of what's on your hard drive this way. After examining these things, you can change the settings back if you'd like. You are going to find a rather large file called hiberfil.sys. The size of this file cannot be changed and will equal to the amount of RAM installed on the system. When you hibernate the laptop, the file is used to store the contents of RAM so that the machine can be restored to the working state it was in when the laptop went into hibernation. Review Add/Remove Programs and uninstall items you don't use. Review Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components as well. I have a year old Tablet PC with a 40GB hard drive. I still have quite a bit of hard drive space available even with some hefty programs installed (Office 2003 and its backup files; Photoshop; Painter). I make an effort to keep my mail storage down. Outlook is configured to leave messages on the server so that 1) I can delete mail as I read it 2) Anything important will be downloaded later to the main desktop computer (and removed from the email server). Other large data files are regularly shuttled off to the desktop or to CDs. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User Sharon thank you for your input! I have done all you suggested, the file hiberfil.sys. does not show any where? BTW it is not a Laptop. Reduced cache sizes, and removed all temp file contents- rebooted, but defraganalyse still show the same disk usage? the biggest in add/remove is AutoRoute V11.0 @ about 933,000MB but i need that, and all others in there, i have the same things installed on my W98 machine. Where to next? Why are you not in Seattle? :-) |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
"Phil" wrote in message ... In line: -----Original Message----- Three things: 1. Go to "My computer." Right click on the drive. Pick "Properties." Hit "Disk cleanup." (right by the pie chart.) See what temporary, temporary internet, etc. files are taking up. Have it clean those up. (Dont' worry about uninstalls, etc. at the moment.) 289,034 KB (Office setup files) 2. Right click "My computer." Go to Properties, System Restore. See how much space is taken up *there.* 12% 9378 MB. 3. You say this is a new computer. OEM? (Gateway, Dell, etc.) I had it built locally, Sys info says: OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name ******* System Manufacturer ECS System Model M848A System Type X86-based PC Processor x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~1500 Mhz BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 07.00T, 02/04/2001 SMBIOS Version 2.3 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)" User Name ******** Time Zone GMT Daylight Time Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB Available Physical Memory 303.32 MB Total Virtual Memory 1.72 GB Available Virtual Memory 1.35 GB Page File Space 1.22 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys NB: (Locale, above states USA, I am in the UK, any need or how to change?) See what programs are installed. 1.71 GB, Total Regional settings in Control Panel.. at the base of the first window.. location.. |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
Regional settings in Control Panel.. at the base of the first window.. location.. That is already UK? Thanks. |
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Lack of free space, new machine.
Phil,
Try this. Go to Start, search, choose "all files and folders". In the box labeled "all or part of the file name" type * Click on "What size it it?" Select "Specify size (in KB)" In the first drop down, select" at least" In the second drop down type 100000 Scroll down and select "more advanced options" Check the box labeled "search hidden files and folders" Now click the Search button. After the search completes, go to view on the top toolbar and select "details", then arrange icons by size. Look for the largest files and let us know what you find. Select "more advanced options" "Phil" wrote in message ... Can you throw any light on this one for me please? I did a clean up & defrag of XP. (NTFS) I note that on a 80GB drive I only have 28% free space, after a month of use? Where to look to determine the "hog" My W98 machine, after 6 years, still has 70% free space. What could cause this? Volume (C Volume size = 76.32 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 54.40 GB Free space = 21.92 GB Percent free space = 28 % Volume fragmentation Total fragmentation = 0 % File fragmentation = 0 % Free space fragmentation = 1 % File fragmentation Total files = 296,563 Average file size = 330 KB Total fragmented files = 0 Total excess fragments = 0 Average fragments per file = 1.00 Pagefile fragmentation Pagefile size = 768 MB Total fragments = 1 Folder fragmentation Total folders = 1,985 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 297 MB MFT record count = 300,838 Percent MFT in use = 98 % Total MFT fragments = 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ ---- Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented None |
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