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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to register for Windows 10?
I have 2 systems running Windows 7.
Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to register for Windows 10?
"Mark F" wrote in message ... I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. See http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited toregister for Windows 10?
Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
Live wrote:
"Mark F" wrote in message ... I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. See http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b There is now a .bat file available in a .zip, listed in that thread. And it contains some of the logic for getting the icon to appear. I expect it doesn't handle all the dependencies. For example, in the test install of Windows 7 SP1 I just did (about 1GB of Windows Updates!), I *finally* got the '583 update offered to me. Right after I had installed IE11. I don't know if that was a coincidence or not. While the optional update installed, no icon has appeared. And that makes sense with respect to my situation (test install). I would not expect Win10 RTM to be offered to a VM running without a license key. In effect, the text here contains the "considered opinions" of the 1000 participants in that thread. This is the .bat file they've been playing with. http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG Paul |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:40:05 -0400, Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. I'm running windows7 home on a 2010 laptop and windows7 Professional on my 2012 desktop. I too haven't been invited, I have auto update turned on both. Not to worry, I'm now running Linux Mint as a parallel system and probably wouldn't bother with windows 10 anyway. I assume they just don't download and install without permission. |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
dave wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:40:05 -0400, Mark F wrote: I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. I'm running windows7 home on a 2010 laptop and windows7 Professional on my 2012 desktop. I too haven't been invited, I have auto update turned on both. Not to worry, I'm now running Linux Mint as a parallel system and probably wouldn't bother with windows 10 anyway. I assume they just don't download and install without permission. For what it's worth, on the test install of Windows 7 SP1 I did a couple days ago, '583 didn't show up in Windows Update until just after I had installed IE11. What that has to do with it, I haven't a clue. It seemed too weird to be a coincidence. Note that the IE11 installation, modifies Explorer (the desktop), as the IE11 installer shuts down Explorer in the middle of the installation. It could be, that the IE11 mshtml capability is needed by the '583 nag screen. The other possibility, is it was purely a coincidence and it was just a little delayed showing up. The thing is, I was watching for '583, waiting, and nothing was happening. My reason for installing IE11, is I'd tried earlier (using the 50MB so-called installer from Microsoft), and the installer started downloading a metric ton of stuff. I stopped it, and attempted to manually install every freaking thing under the sun in the Windows Update. Just to see if the 50MB IE11 installer could actually install Internet Explorer without all of those (hidden) downloads. I couldn't tell what it was downloading, or why. So after I had poured everything in Windows Update into the machine, then ran the 50MB IE11 installer, it stopped downloading stuff and just did the installation the way I had intended. There's nothing worse than an installer sitting there, downloading **** without telling you what it is downloading, or more importantly, giving an estimate of how many more hours this is going to take. And after my next reboot and visit to Windows Update, I was presented with my very own copy of '583. Paul |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited toregister for Windows 10?
dave wrote:
I'm running windows7 home on a 2010 laptop and windows7 Professional on my 2012 desktop. I too haven't been invited, I have auto update turned on both. Not to worry, I'm now running Linux Mint as a parallel system and probably wouldn't bother with windows 10 anyway. I assume they just don't download and install without permission. http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b qp If you don’t see the Get Windows 10 app (the small Windows icon in your system tray), it might be because: 1.Your device isn’t up-to-date with at least Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update 2.Windows Update is turned off or is not set to received updates automatically 3.You’ve blocked or uninstalled the necessary Windows Update functionality. 4.Your device is not running genuine Windows 5.Your device is running Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, or Windows RT/RT 8.1, which are excluded from this reservation offer. 6.Your device is managed as part of a school or business network. (Check with your IT administrator.) 7.PCs that we determine cannot run Windows 10 will not see the Get Windows 10 app before July 29th. After July 29th, we’ll enable the icon in the system tray. This is to help ensure that you can easily check your PC’s compatibility if you choose. /qp Running Windows Update and installing latest available patch and updates for the o/s usually resolve the first 3 issues. #7 Is a holding pattern until after 29 Jul 2015 unless something at the user end changes...though hard to make changes without an inkling of what should be done. -- ...winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
Am 06.06.2015 um 20:32 schrieb Paul:
There's nothing worse than an installer sitting there, downloading **** without telling you what it is downloading, or more importantly, giving an estimate of how many more hours this is going to take. +1 |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Mark F wrote: I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else. Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop. I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it. Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered. Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon? |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to register for Windows 10?
"Paul" wrote in message ... Live wrote: "Mark F" wrote in message ... I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. See http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-a999a883265b There is now a .bat file available in a .zip, listed in that thread. And it contains some of the logic for getting the icon to appear. I expect it doesn't handle all the dependencies. For example, in the test install of Windows 7 SP1 I just did (about 1GB of Windows Updates!), I *finally* got the '583 update offered to me. Right after I had installed IE11. I don't know if that was a coincidence or not. While the optional update installed, no icon has appeared. And that makes sense with respect to my situation (test install). I would not expect Win10 RTM to be offered to a VM running without a license key. In effect, the text here contains the "considered opinions" of the 1000 participants in that thread. This is the .bat file they've been playing with. http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG Paul Installing IE11 did it for me, too. I had Win7HP x86, and decided to update to Win7HP x64 using my old store-bought CDs, just to be ready for a x64 Win10. When I had x86, I was offered Win10 right away after the '583 update was intalled. After the x64 upgrade, and installing SP1 and 100+ updates, I tried doing the IE11 installation update, but it kept failing, and I was never offered the '583 update. I went out and downloaded the IE11 installation file, installed it, and as soon as I rebooted, I was offered the '583. I installed it, and now I'm being offered Win10 for this machine. Got my copy reserved :-) -- SC Tom |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote:
On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote: Mark F wrote: I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else. Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop. I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it. Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered. Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon? 664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583 and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop. Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it? |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
Ron wrote:
On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote: On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote: Mark F wrote: I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else. Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop. I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it. Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered. Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon? 664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583 and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop. Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it? You could try installing IE11. There is apparently a difference between OS versions, where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here, I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing), and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it could actually install without downloading a gigabyte of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date, IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you what packages it is getting. Paul |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote:
Ron wrote: On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote: On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote: Mark F wrote: I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else. Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop. I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it. Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered. Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon? 664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583 and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop. Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it? You could try installing IE11. There is apparently a difference between OS versions, where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here, I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing), and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it could actually install without downloading a gigabyte of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date, IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you what packages it is getting. IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7. |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
On 04/06/2015 12:40, Mark F wrote:
I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. It could be because Microsoft server is confused like you whether you are using Windows 7 or Windows 8. U#you posted your question in Windows 8 newsgroup . Now to reserve a copy to get it on day 1, I suggest read this Microsoft article: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/how-to-reserve-your-free-windows-10-upgrade-and-get-it-on-day-one/ar-BBktyEq?ocid=O35_MSTECH_T3A Some of us won't be upgrading our old Windows 7 machines because there are no proprietary drivers for them. Even DELL won't be supplying drivers for Optiplex 760 (which I have about 50 in my department) and so we won't get Windows 10 upgrade but we are likely to order 50 brand new machines in late August or early September and hopefully we'll be on Windows 10 like you. You need to think before you decide to upgrade because Drivers will be the main obstacle. Microsoft has a site for open source/generic drivers but these are for hobbyists and enthusiasts not for some productive work. |
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Why didn't one of my Windows 7 systems get invited to registerfor Windows 10?
Ron wrote:
On 6/22/2015 6:31 PM, Paul wrote: Ron wrote: On 6/19/2015 3:05 AM, Ron wrote: On 6/4/2015 9:41 AM, . . .winston wrote: Mark F wrote: I have 2 systems running Windows 7. Both are running Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. Only my laptop got invited to pre register for Windows 10. (The invite came when I started Windows Update.) How can I get the other computer to be invited to pre register? (I was able to pre register the laptop with no problem.) The laptop is an HP HDX16 that originally had Windows Vista Ultimate OEMAct HP installed from the factory. I don't know if it was a 32-bit or 64-bit version. The other is a Dell Precision 380, but I don't remember if it was upgraded from Vista or Windows XP Professional and I don't remember what version of Vista it might have had, not whether the original version were 32-bit or 64-bit, or if perhaps it stated at XP then went to Vista, then Windows 7. Win7 SP1 systems need KB3035583 *and* KB2952664 installed. Check your Windows Update installed history first before attempting anything else. Same problem here with a Windows 7 SP1 laptop. I found KB2952664 under optional updates and installed it. Then I clicked on "check for updates" and KB3035583 wasn't offered. Do I need to manually install KB3035583 to get the W10 upgrade icon? 664 was an optional update so I installed it. I manually installed 583 and still no W10 update icon on a Toshiba W7 SP1 laptop. Anyone know what the deal is before I start a new thread on it? You could try installing IE11. There is apparently a difference between OS versions, where one of them seems to need 1E11. On my test VM here, I installed IE11 (which was another experiment I was doing), and '583 was offered right after that. I was testing the downloadable 50MB IE11 installer, to see if it could actually install without downloading a gigabyte of stuff. And it worked. As long as the OS is patched up to date, the installation of IE11 is relatively self-sufficient. But if you're not patched up to date, IE11 installer pulls in stuff... and doesn't tell you what packages it is getting. IE 11 was installed when it was first offered for Windows 7. When you check your Windows Update history, did all the prerequisites install successfully ? Over in the Answers forum at Microsoft, there is a thread with more than 1000 posts. And someone posted a .bat file intended to make the offer work. I copied it to pastebin for later reference. win10fix_full.bat http://pastebin.com/PJgsLuuG And that script is checking for the two updates, before trying stuff. You can try installing '583 manually. That has the binary executables for making the offer. But it checks an awful lot of stuff, which is why it's a pain to deal with. In my test setup, what I was missing was a valid key, so I couldn't get the offer from it. Paul |
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