PDFs ARGH!

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:22:06 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:43:14 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 4:30 PM:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:15:03 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 11:15 AM:

No, my point has unchanged, that it's read only to the vast majority.

Hmmm...a file is either read-only or it is not. This does not rely on
the perception of the user. :-)

It relies on the ability of the user and the software he has available. For example Foxit lets you edit when Acrobat does not.

Which Acrobat? Is it distributed with Windows? Which version of Windows?

It's the free thing you get when you click "get acrobat reader" on a website which has a pdf to download.


As you yourself just said, that's Acrobat *Reader*, not Acrobat. They
are two different things.

Another example of your not knowing what you are talking about.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:44:13 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:22:06 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:43:14 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 4:30 PM:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:15:03 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 11:15 AM:

No, my point has unchanged, that it's read only to the vast majority.

Hmmm...a file is either read-only or it is not. This does not rely on
the perception of the user. :-)

It relies on the ability of the user and the software he has available. For example Foxit lets you edit when Acrobat does not.

Which Acrobat? Is it distributed with Windows? Which version of Windows?

It's the free thing you get when you click "get acrobat reader" on a website which has a pdf to download.


As you yourself just said, that's Acrobat *Reader*, not Acrobat. They
are two different things.

Another example of your not knowing what you are talking about.

There's Acrobat Reader and Acrobat Writer. Acrobat is ambiguous, but to most people means the reader. Someone might say "I need Acrobat installed to view this".

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On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:


You only had two computer jobs? With your level of knowledge, I'm
surprised you could keep any job that long.

Both places said I was far better than anyone else they'd employed.


Up until now, I've only said you were mistaken, and didn't know what
you were talking about. But this time, I'm going to say you are almost
certainly lying.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:48:57 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

You only had two computer jobs? With your level of knowledge, I'm
surprised you could keep any job that long.

Both places said I was far better than anyone else they'd employed.

Up until now, I've only said you were mistaken, and didn't know what
you were talking about. But this time, I'm going to say you are almost
certainly lying.

You have based your knowledge of my intelligence on one item alone. That makes you an idiot who jumps to conclusions. And because you put MVP after your name, an arrogant one too.

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Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 5:22 PM:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:43:14 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 4:30 PM:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:15:03 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 11:15 AM:

No, my point has unchanged, that it's read only to the vast majority.

Hmmm...a file is either read-only or it is not. This does not rely on
the perception of the user. :-)

It relies on the ability of the user and the software he has available. For example Foxit lets you edit when Acrobat does not.

Which Acrobat? Is it distributed with Windows? Which version of Windows?

It's the free thing you get when you click "get acrobat reader" on a website which has a pdf to download.

So you're saying that it is not distributed with Windows?

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 5:22 PM:

Well I don't need one, so whatever you "need" it for, you don't.

??? I guess it's possible that I would need one even if you did not.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:03:29 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:48:57 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

You only had two computer jobs? With your level of knowledge, I'm
surprised you could keep any job that long.

Both places said I was far better than anyone else they'd employed.

Up until now, I've only said you were mistaken, and didn't know what
you were talking about. But this time, I'm going to say you are almost
certainly lying.

You have based your knowledge of my intelligence on one item alone. That makes you an idiot who jumps to conclusions.



No! First of all, lying has nothing to do with intelligence. Second,
I've based my estimate of your knowledge, intelligence, and honesty on
everything you've said in this thread.

And also note that as far as I know, everyone else in this newsgroup
agrees with my estimates. If I'm wrong about *everyone* I'm not wrong
by much.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:14:57 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 5:22 PM:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:43:14 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 4:30 PM:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 21:15:03 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 11:15 AM:

No, my point has unchanged, that it's read only to the vast majority.

Hmmm...a file is either read-only or it is not. This does not rely on
the perception of the user. :-)

It relies on the ability of the user and the software he has available. For example Foxit lets you edit when Acrobat does not.

Which Acrobat? Is it distributed with Windows? Which version of Windows?

It's the free thing you get when you click "get acrobat reader" on a website which has a pdf to download.

So you're saying that it is not distributed with Windows?

WTF has that to do with anything? My point is it's the one most people have. Only computer minded people get alternates.

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"No", the cowboy replied, "You cooked up the screwing."

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:16:05 -0000, Cy Burnot wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 5:22 PM:

Well I don't need one, so whatever you "need" it for, you don't.

??? I guess it's possible that I would need one even if you did not.

What are we talking about here? Cars? A sex life?

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On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:30:21 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:03:29 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:48:57 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

You only had two computer jobs? With your level of knowledge, I'm
surprised you could keep any job that long.

Both places said I was far better than anyone else they'd employed.

Up until now, I've only said you were mistaken, and didn't know what
you were talking about. But this time, I'm going to say you are almost
certainly lying.

You have based your knowledge of my intelligence on one item alone. That makes you an idiot who jumps to conclusions.

No! First of all, lying has nothing to do with intelligence. Second,
I've based my estimate of your knowledge, intelligence, and honesty on
everything you've said in this thread.

So as I said, not enough information to draw a conclusion.

And also note that as far as I know, everyone else in this newsgroup
agrees with my estimates. If I'm wrong about *everyone* I'm not wrong
by much.

A newsgroup is not a valid random sample of the population.

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"C'mon, tell me," she asked for the thousandth time, "How many women have you slept with?"
"Baby, " he protested, "if I told you, you'd throw a fit." Kim promised she wouldn't get angry, and convinced her hubby to tell her.
"Okay," he said, then started to count on his fingers "One, two, three, four, five, six, seven - then there's you - nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen . . . "

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote on 11/28/2015 6:33 PM:

It's the free thing you get when you click "get acrobat reader" on a website which has a pdf to download.

So you're saying that it is not distributed with Windows?

WTF has that to do with anything? My point is it's the one most people have. Only computer minded people get alternates.


But if they clicked that link, wouldn't they get the latest Acrobat
Reader???

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:34:49 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:30:21 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:03:29 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:48:57 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

You have based your knowledge of my intelligence on one item alone. That makes you an idiot who jumps to conclusions.

No! First of all, lying has nothing to do with intelligence. Second,
I've based my estimate of your knowledge, intelligence, and honesty on
everything you've said in this thread.

So as I said, not enough information to draw a conclusion.


No, as I* said, almost certainly enough information to draw a
conclusion.



And also note that as far as I know, everyone else in this newsgroup
agrees with my estimates. If I'm wrong about *everyone* I'm not wrong
by much.

A newsgroup is not a valid random sample of the population.


As far as I'm concerned, being a newsgroup is completely irrelevant.
What you said is what's important and the fact that everyone here
agrees with me is what's important.

On 28/11/2015 23:55:23, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:34:49 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:30:21 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:03:29 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:48:57 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

You have based your knowledge of my intelligence on one item alone. That
makes you an idiot who jumps to conclusions.

No! First of all, lying has nothing to do with intelligence. Second,
I've based my estimate of your knowledge, intelligence, and honesty on
everything you've said in this thread.

So as I said, not enough information to draw a conclusion.

No, as I* said, almost certainly enough information to draw a
conclusion.


And also note that as far as I know, everyone else in this newsgroup
agrees with my estimates. If I'm wrong about *everyone* I'm not wrong
by much.

A newsgroup is not a valid random sample of the population.

As far as I'm concerned, being a newsgroup is completely irrelevant.
What you said is what's important and the fact that everyone here
agrees with me is what's important.

He's not worth bothering about Ken. He is an out and out troll who
moves from one group to another with the sole aim of disrupting and
destroying the group.
Mick (with the capital letter) and myself have witnessed this elsewhere
and throughout this thread he has entirely ignored our posts and only
replied to others that don't know his background.
He's a windup merchant that needs to be ignored for the sake of the
group.

--
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On 11/26/15 2:23 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:53:21 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 11/26/2015 12:37 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

That's my point. The standard Adobe Reader, which is what Jo Public
has, doesn't let you edit most of them.


Lots of people use Foxit and Sumatra, among others, I gave up on Adobe
ages ago.


I'm with you. I use Foxit Reader and like it much better than Adobe
Reader.

I use Apple's Preview for virtually all my PDF needs.


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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 42.0
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On 11/28/15 5:22 PM, mick wrote:
On 28/11/2015 23:55:23, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:34:49 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:30:21 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 23:03:29 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:48:57 -0000, Ken Blake, MVP
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:39:44 -0000, "Tough Guy no. 1265"
wrote:

You have based your knowledge of my intelligence on one item alone. That
makes you an idiot who jumps to conclusions.

No! First of all, lying has nothing to do with intelligence. Second,
I've based my estimate of your knowledge, intelligence, and honesty on
everything you've said in this thread.

So as I said, not enough information to draw a conclusion.

No, as I* said, almost certainly enough information to draw a
conclusion.


And also note that as far as I know, everyone else in this newsgroup
agrees with my estimates. If I'm wrong about *everyone* I'm not wrong
by much.

A newsgroup is not a valid random sample of the population.

As far as I'm concerned, being a newsgroup is completely irrelevant.
What you said is what's important and the fact that everyone here
agrees with me is what's important.

He's not worth bothering about Ken. He is an out and out troll who
moves from one group to another with the sole aim of disrupting and
destroying the group.
Mick (with the capital letter) and myself have witnessed this elsewhere
and throughout this thread he has entirely ignored our posts and only
replied to others that don't know his background.
He's a windup merchant that needs to be ignored for the sake of the
group.

Having just read the entire thread, wonder if Tough Guy is the
stereotypical "Linux Loser" also...


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 42.0
Thunderbird 31.5
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"