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Using xp home.
Suddenly, yesterday, Eudora 7.1.09 insisted on being reinstalled. I deleted about 800 messages in the in-box in the previous use but there are still many more so I don't see why that should be the reason. I tried a backup copy of Eudora in my backup directory - same thing. Made a few efforts to restart it but no success so far. Looking for a quick setup guide to print. In the meantime, assuming things don't go well as so often happens, what's a good replacement? This is my backup email app connected to my ISP. Normally I use Gmail. Thoughts? TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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In message , KenK
writes: Using xp home. Suddenly, yesterday, Eudora 7.1.09 insisted on being reinstalled. I deleted about 800 messages in the in-box in the previous use but there are still many more so I don't see why that should be the reason. I tried a backup copy of Eudora in my backup directory - same thing. Made a few efforts to restart it but no success so far. Looking for a quick setup guide to print. In the meantime, assuming things don't go well as so often happens, what's a good replacement? This is my backup email app connected to my ISP. Normally I use Gmail. Thoughts? TIA Thunderbird is a reasonable compromise: it's close enough in how it looks/works to most other clients, and there are lots of people who will be able to help you with it. (There's not a lot that will look _that_ like Eudora - Turnpike is a _bit_ like it, but I wouldn't suggest that to anyone not used to it. Probably best to get used to the conventional way.) I'm not sure if you can still get an XP-compatible Thunderbird from the usual sources, but if not, all the old ones are available - through things like oldversion, but also I think direct from Mozilla if you know (or can find) where to look. (Certainly they are for Firefox.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Everyone is entitled to an *informed* opinion." - Harlan Ellison |
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On 12 Jul 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: Thunderbird is a reasonable compromise: it's close enough in how it looks/works to most other clients, and there are lots of people who will be able to help you with it. (There's not a lot that will look _that_ like Eudora - Turnpike is a _bit_ like it, but I wouldn't suggest that to anyone not used to it. Probably best to get used to the conventional way.) If the OP can deal with something unlike Thunderbird, Pegasus is a very good choice and runs well on XP. It's a bit quirky but rock solid and it has a very supportive user community. http://www.pmail.com/ |
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KenK wrote:
Using xp home. Suddenly, yesterday, Eudora 7.1.09 insisted on being reinstalled. I deleted about 800 messages in the in-box in the previous use but there are still many more so I don't see why that should be the reason. I tried a backup copy of Eudora in my backup directory - same thing. Made a few efforts to restart it but no success so far. Looking for a quick setup guide to print. In the meantime, assuming things don't go well as so often happens, what's a good replacement? This is my backup email app connected to my ISP. Normally I use Gmail. Thoughts? TIA Someone here used Thunderbird. https://social.technet.microsoft.com...itproappcompat The version of Eudora you're using, is a unique creation. The people at Eudora were doing this themselves. It's possible Qualcomm wanted to be shed of the thing, so Eudora OSE was invented (which is based on Thunderbird, which is based on Firefox as a rendering engine). By making an OpenSourceEdition, they hoped it would become someone elses problem. The modern Thunderbird is an "asynchronous mess" when it comes to USENET. I don't know if its email behavior is quite as bad. What this means is, the program can be doing a number of things in parallel, which makes it hard to debug or observe for "problems". Eudora was from an era before encryption, and as I understand it, there were some problems with adding SSL (secure socket layer to protect the information in flight on the internet). I vaguely remember people patching some file on it. If the server end made some changes to the SSL version, perhaps that has something to do with "client indigestion". Not every problem with the original Eudora, is on the users end. It might even be a problem with a Certificate, which gives a chain of trust. Just make sure you're collecting the most salient symptoms, to figure out what actually happened. My guess is, some server-side issue has changed Eudora behavior. It's possible whatever Eudora uses for an information store is corrupted. But if that were individual EML files, it would be pretty hard to ruin something like that. Thunderbird uses "Mork" format for box storage. Which is a wee bit of a pig. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mork_(file_format) "The file format has been severely criticized by Jamie Zawinski, a former Netscape engineer. He has lambasted the ostensibly "textual" format on the grounds that it is "not human-readable", bemoaned the impossibility of writing a correct parser for the format, and referred to it as "...the single most braindamaged file format that I have ever seen in my nineteen year career. " Now, I personally wouldn't care what was inside Mork, if it stayed stable. But occasionally those containers misbehave on the USENET reader side of Thunderbird, and I don't know if I'd store the "crown jewels" in there. On numerous occasions, a recent backup has saved my bacon. ******* Part of the challenge of selecting a replacement, is what standards does your email server use ? Is it IMAP, or POP3, or ? It likely has encrypted port numbers like 995, which signify a protocol choice. I have an older email client here, which would be unsuited to any modern large free email server, as encryption is missing, and even the handling of IP addresses is a bit borked. The containers on that one are "perfect" - never a problem with message storage in 10+ years of usage. The client itself is great, but if the plumbing to the Internet is old or broken, that can immediately eliminate the candidate. Paul |
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KenK wrote in
: Using xp home. Suddenly, yesterday, Eudora 7.1.09 insisted on being reinstalled. I deleted about 800 messages in the in-box in the previous use but there are still many more so I don't see why that should be the reason. I tried a backup copy of Eudora in my backup directory - same thing. Made a few efforts to restart it but no success so far. Looking for a quick setup guide to print. In the meantime, assuming things don't go well as so often happens, what's a good replacement? This is my backup email app connected to my ISP. Normally I use Gmail. Thoughts? TIA Think it might solve problem to restore Eudora files from last backup? I use Ntbackup. Will it reinstall a single directory? Have only used it to recover complete drive in the past. Anyone know? TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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