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Before I started using Macrium I used
Nero. I still have the installation disk and I wonder if we should try it? Although it's been awhile since I've used it. What do you think? Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
I ran Agent Ransack and it found nothing: http://i67.tinypic.com/2r2ofaq.jpg For the original search, I was hoping you'd just try the word "master" without any punctuation. Because some characters might have special meaning, depending on the tick boxes in Options. On an initial search, I don't mind getting too many results. I could refine the search if there were too many to scroll through. I also notice other missing folders. They're not there. So how can this same Mrimg restore the folders but not show them? A permissions problem perhaps, but I don't think I've seen anything like that here. It's a puzzle for sure. And I don't know any clever ways to search in some deeper way, that has a guarantee of showing it. I don't really have any Windows utility I trust for this sort of thing. You could convert the MRIMG file into a VHD and take it inside a VirtualBox virtual machine and look at it. But again, I don't see a reason for freaky things to happen. It would probably be consistent and hide it there too. I don't really have any recipe I can trust. While you could run the third party program "Everything.exe" against the mounted MRIMG to make a file list, even that won't show stuff which is "Access Denied". Everything seems to have limits. If I had to do forensics on file names, I'd have to do it from Linux. If *any* Windows utility had impressed me by listing the "Access Denied" stuff, I could recommend a Windows solution. But I've been disappointed many times, with files that cannot be seen or touched. So it's not like your experience is out of the ordinary. I just don't have a good excuse for why it's happening. It sounds like a permissions problem. Oh, I remember. There's a setting you should check. When you right-click the MRIMG and go to "Explore" it, there's a tick box at the bottom of the window, something about "allow access to restricted objects", something like that. Maybe you need to use one or more of the tick boxes at the bottom of the dialog, then go check in File Explorer and see if that helped. So unmount the partition you see now, then right-click the MRIMG and re-mount it, only adjust your tick boxes for "best visibility" on the files. The 2TB HD was totally dysfunctional and would not boot until I restored it with the same Mrimg and I've already showed you two of the folders recovered but it's not showing them on the WD 2TB HD? So the My Documents on the 8500 is an older version and the 2TB WD is not showing the current My Documents with the (master) files for some weird reason. Another strange thing,.. I have my original install disks for Microsoft Word/Excel from the 8200, and I was able to install them in the 8500 previously. I installed Excel but now when I load the disk it doesn't auto detect as usual but prompts me http://i68.tinypic.com/s4pgy9.jpg That's what mine does here by default. Shows that dialog. But I think there might be a GPEdit (Policy Editor) for AutoPlay/AutoRun. And I see you've found a panel for it, in the next picture. This isn't something I dwell on. I just dismiss the thing every time it pops up. I don't really want any action taken by default. I don't trust computers enough for that :-) here are the default settings http://i64.tinypic.com/2n0lje9.jpg I presume "Software and Games" is the one ? In fact, I applied a change just yesterday, that shuts off autorun.inf permanently :-) There's a registry edit you can do, to stop the file "autorun.inf" from running. and here's what's on the first disk http://i66.tinypic.com/8wxndi.jpg There's a setup.exe. and the second disk http://i65.tinypic.com/166g6q9.jpg And there is a setup.exe on there as well. You can change the preference in Windows, to show file extensions. The idiotic default is to not show the extension. I find it safer to have the extension showing, so I know "setup" is actually "setup.exe". And the versions of Windows, put the menu in different places. Maybe on that File Explorer, it's over on the upper right ? It should say something about Tools : View, and have tick boxes. Paul |
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Mark Twain wrote:
Before I started using Macrium I used Nero. I still have the installation disk and I wonder if we should try it? Although it's been awhile since I've used it. What do you think? Robert I have no experience with Nero BackItUp. I might have an older copy here somewhere. What's most to blame, is NTFS and the permissions model. Rather than the backup software as such. ******* This problem exists on Unix too, and many individuals will get into philosophical arguments about how visible files should be when doing searches. I think the file names should always be visible, but I suppose mine is a "single-user machine" point of view. The people who want the files hidden, consider these machines to be "multi-user time shared" computers, so we hide Johns files from Mary, and vice versa. You can have two computers, the 8500 and the 780, have accounts with username "Robert" and the same password on both. When you do that, you can do file sharing over the network. But in actual fact, they're still *different* accounts. When the OSes were installed, a random string of numbers was assigned to the SID for those accounts, on the two machines. So the accounts aren't actually the same. And that's why, if you view a disk from one machine, while booted with the OS on the other machine, when you're in File Explorer, there is a "little green bar" ceremony, to make the permissions work well enough so you can see the files in the "foreign" folder. If the account you were using at the time, did not belong to the "administrators" group, it's possible you might not even be able to open your user folder on the other disk. Because it's a different account, and the computer thinks you're John, and the account owning the other disk is Mary - they're that different as accounts. Paul |
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I did try the word (master) at first,. and ran more than one scan but didn't think of screenshots. It seems it's doing something similar to what happens with my Dell Imagining. When I change a capital 'S' to a small 's' It still retains the large 'S' as a 'ghoest' image when searching but it disappears when I open the file and the small 'S' is there. Just like I thought I had overwritten my (master) files but they were there. However, yesterday I connected the WD to the 780 to see if it could see the files. When I clicked to open it had a long green colored bar that ran across the top and it opened up the partition but today this is what's there (780 My Documents)! Now how can it do that just by opening? It didn't give me any dialog boxes or warnings. http://i68.tinypic.com/67p45i.jpg At this point maybe it's better we move on. I was able to copy/paste to DVD the most important documentation and the 8500 has enough already,. plus my bookmarks so that I can live with it and we restored the spared 2TB HD was was nonfunctional with the damaged Mrimg. However that Mrimg is now suspect I think we should proceed with getting the 8500 setup so that it's fully operational. e.g. update Explorer 11 even though I don't use it. Set the plugin's or use the default? etc,..... I would also like to create a New Mrimg I tried installing Word again and this time it worked!@! That was bothering me because ALL my work is on Word documents. Thoughts/suggestions? Robert |
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One thing I find amazing is that with all
our efforts we couldn't retrieve the MBR. Whatever program that did this was pretty devastating to wipe out my MBR. However, I have my fast connection back and I assume it will get quicker with the cookies etc. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
One thing I find amazing is that with all our efforts we couldn't retrieve the MBR. Whatever program that did this was pretty devastating to wipe out my MBR. However, I have my fast connection back and I assume it will get quicker with the cookies etc. Robert If you have your File Explorer window open, click the Organize menu in the upper left. Select Folder and Search options. Click View tab. The "Hide extensions for known file types" should be unticked. Click Apply in the lower right corner of the dialog. Then, under Folder Views at the top, click "Apply to Folders", then "Yes", and the viewable extensions should be seen in all open File Explorer windows. I suggest that change, because I still don't see file extensions in your File Explorer pictures. The picture in your other post, is a picture of two different folders, so they will have different content. I thought maybe, the purpose of the picture was to show me two views of the same folder that did not agree with one another. Paul |
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The purpose of the two pictures with content
was to show you what I had on both disks when I was trying to install Microsoft Word and I was hoping you could tell which to click to install it. Somehow I managed to do so. I will give it another try but I saw nothing to click this last time. Also, I ran a Avast scan and it came up with (4) malware entries. So I deleted them and after doing so it recommended a boot scan at the first restart. Am now in the process of doing that with 80% complete unfortunately, the WD was connected up at the time and I couldn't safely remove it so it's scanning that as well. Robert |
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I followed your instructions and
un-ticked the box and tried the Mrimg again but with the same result. The 8500 finished the boot scan and came back apparently clean. I'm running follow-up scans to make sure. Robert |
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I followed your instructions and un-ticked the box and tried the Mrimg again but with the same result. The 8500 finished the boot scan and came back apparently clean. I'm running follow-up scans to make sure. Robert Well, I'm at a loss to explain how an MRIMG mounted via the Macrium mount option, would be missing just a few items, compared to the original disk drive. And if no file listing utility will show them on the MRIMG mount, I don't have a solution to check forensically for them. MRIMG and VHD files aren't particularly friendly when viewed in a hex editor. While you can convert from MRIMG to VHD, I don't expect you to race off into some virtual machine environment and work on it. So that's kinda a dead end as well. If you were to convert the MRIMG file (using the Macrium function) to VHD, then a program like 7-ZIP can read a VHD (and show you the files inside it). But the process of doing so can be quite slow - when 7-ZIP parses such things, it makes a "temporary" file which is as big as the thing it's been asked to parse. And again, that's a headache in terms of wasted time waiting for it to finish. Someone put in a feature request to have that fixed, but I don't think it's fixed yet. Macrium also has a "Verify" function. All that it does, is verify the checksum of the whole MRIMG. It may not actually be verifying everything is perfectly functional. Under the Restore menu, you can browse for an MRIMG and then click the Verify. But that's mainly if you think the disk is damaged and you want to know if your MRIMG is still readable. Paul |
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As I said, its time we moved on,.
I was about to create a new Mrimg when this came up. http://i65.tinypic.com/1zgyx79.jpg I had mentioned this earlier before I did the Dell Data Safe and asked how you wish me to proceed since were using Macrium. Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
As I said, its time we moved on,. I was about to create a new Mrimg when this came up. http://i65.tinypic.com/1zgyx79.jpg I had mentioned this earlier before I did the Dell Data Safe and asked how you wish me to proceed since were using Macrium. Robert That's a request to set up Windows Backup. That's a backup program provided by Microsoft. It insists on backing up C: , no matter what you do. At least for the System Image option. There is a tick box there for "Turn off messages..." so you won't see messages from it any more. And then it won't make a mess of your Action Center. ******* When you ask how to proceed, are you happy with Macrium ? Or have you given up on it ? It sounds like "you get your files back, only if you do a restore to something". Which means a lot more usage of your spare disk I suppose. Just about all commercial backup programs are complicated, so changing to another one won't change that aspect of it. Windows Backup does work, as I used to use it before Macrium came along. But it's a pretty bare bones experience. After it's finished doing a backup, I generally move the backup folder some place else. And then there will be room for the next backup. Paul |
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So, it's as I thought, choose one or
the other. I'll stay with Macrium. I turned off messages before so that is why I asked the question. While waiting for your reply I checked for Updates and it's still running! http://i66.tinypic.com/23kdzkg.jpg Should it take this long even though it says it's never run? Robert |
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Updates has been running 12+ hours,....
and Windows Task Manager shoes it's running Robert |
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Mark Twain wrote:
Updates has been running 12+ hours,.... and Windows Task Manager shoes it's running Robert Click cancel. Reboot. (Or stop wuauserv and start it again with the appropriate command. I prefer reboot myself.) Using Internet Explorer, visit this page. Accept the plugin when it is offered (it'll install). Then, pick out the Win7 x64 entry for download. http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369 The next one to get, is the July 2016 Cumulative. The description of this has now been modified, to no longer show it fixes Windows Update, which is weird. But we can't let Microsoft shenanigans bother us. http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605 ******* The history of the last item, is traceable as: "Windows Update Client for Windows 7" https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3161647 "An optimization that addresses long scan time for updates that's reported on some computers." But that update is not in the Catalog by itself. That would be too easy. That article points you to this one. And this article tells you that '647 is included. "June 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 SP1" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3161608 Then the notice at the top of the page, tells you to use this one. And this one is available for download on the catalog server. So we're using this, because it's actually available. "July 2016 update rollup for Windows 7 SP1" https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3172605 ******* After you've selected the two files for download, you use the Internet Explorer "View Basket" button to do the download. It will ask you for a file path to store the downloads. Each download gets its own folder. ******* If you attempt to install '605 and it says "Not applicable", that means some servicing stack is missing. That's why you install 3020369 first. 1) Install 3020369 first (servicing stack). 2) Install 3172605. 3) Reboot. 4) Visit Windows Update. The list of downloads should appear in less than five minutes. I've had other reasons for "Not applicable" when attempting to install an update from the Catalog server. And that's because the update is actually, no longer applicable. But in the case of the above process, the "Not applicable" means a prerequisite has not been met. I did a clean install of Win7 Pro SP1 x64 in a VM, added the above two patches manually, and Windows Update painted the list of updates in 4 minutes 51 seconds. So the method still seems to work. HTH, Paul |
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It seems I was a little premature
because when I attempted to shutdown it came back with this: Please do not power off or unplug your machine. Installing 1 of 212 ,... now on 46 of 212 and I'm sure there more updates ,... so maybe no need to download 3020369 and 3172605 files? Robert |
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