Is there a YouTube player with no ads app like AT New Pipe for Windows?

Wolf K actually wrote:

What ads? I don't see any.

Oh, it must be that stone-age tool known as AdBlock.

I also use a shovel to dig up the garden But it's semi-modern, it's made
of steel.

I didn't mean to touch off hurt feelings by stating the truth that a
dedicated YouTube Red clone app has advantages over an all-in-one tool such
as a web browser when all you want to do is watch videos without ads and
download either the audio or the video.

It's the same dedicated-versus-all-in-one tool argument I could make for a
MUA versus web-based email, where the dedicated tool does the job better in
many ways than the all-in-one tool which has its own huge security issues
to deal with.

Heck, I can make the same argument for a dedicated pair of pliers over a
leatherman all-in-one tool.

The dedicated app has advantages over the browser, and the browser has huge
disadvantages that you're glossing over.

So you're only saying the good about the browser, but not the bad (and
there is plenty bad, especially since Google tracks you left and right when
you use YouTube through a browser).

But I never wanted a discussion on why using a browser for YouTube videos
is a really bad idea compared to using a dedicated YouTube Red clone app on
Windows.

All I am asking is if you know of a Windows YouTube red clone that
[1] Searches and plays any YouTube video
[2] Never ever requires a log in or account (to watch anything)
[3] Never shows ads no matter what
[4] Downloads the current video at the touch of a button
[5] Extracts and downloads the audio at the touch of a button
[6] Downloads any number of audios or videos in the background
[7] Without any effort whatsoever

Does the all-in-one browser solution do all that on Windows?

For example, how do you download any number of audio and video files in the
background using the all-in-one web browser pointed only to the YouTube web
site?

Char Jackson actually wrote:

Whippersnapper! My shovel is a bone from a mastodon. I have to be
careful with it because I don't think they make'em anymore.

Since I use the free YouTube Red clone app to do the following, it would be
interesting to know how people do all these things from an all-in-one-tool
such as a web browser is:
[1] Searches and plays any YouTube video
[2] Never ever requires a log in or account (to watch anything)
[3] Never shows ads no matter what
[4] Downloads the current video at the touch of a button
[5] Extracts and downloads the audio at the touch of a button
[6] Downloads any number of audios or videos in the background
[7] Without any effort whatsoever

How does the all-in-one browser solution do all that on Windows?

"Roy Tremblay" wrote

| I didn't mean to touch off hurt feelings by stating the truth

Maybe it's your "bedside manner". You might try
something like, "My opinion..."

| For example, how do you download any number of audio and video files in
the
| background using the all-in-one web browser pointed only to the YouTube
web
| site?

Click them? I do that occasionally, when I
get fired up to listen to numerous lectures on
a similar topic. One page leads to another and
I end up getting interested in things I didn't
know existed. I'm curious about the reverse:
Without visiting the page, how did you find
all those videos that you want to watch?

On 7/14/2017 10:17 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-07-14 10:43, Roy Tremblay wrote:
John Doe actually wrote:

There are times when I have a dozen or more YouTube tabs
open, when cruising movies. Shirley you can do that with a
smartphone app? YouTube does not belong in a browser? Yeah,
right. Only an ignorant moron would say that.

I apologize for having touched off some raw nerves simply by asking for a
Windows equivalent to a free YouTube Red clone app.


It was you reference to "stuck in the stone age" that set people off.

BTW, I see no ads at all on YouTube. I do see ads on newsfeed videos
that I watch on my smartphone.




Boy, this red clone app must be the *Holy Grail*

Rene

Wolf K actually wrote:

It was you reference to "stuck in the stone age" that set people off.

BTW, I see no ads at all on YouTube. I do see ads on newsfeed videos
that I watch on my smartphone.

I didn't mean to ruffle feathers by repeating what I said in the op which
was that I wasn't looking for an all-in-one browser solution but that I was
looking for a dedicated free clone replacement to the YouTube Red app.

If your solution does these things on Windows, then it's a good solution:
[1] Searches & plays any YouTube video without ever needing an account
[2] Never shows an ad (even without the user having to lift a setup finger)
[3] Pushbutton background download of multiple audio or video extractions

Does your solution do those three things?

If so, can you explain your solution on Windows in more detail so that I
can reproduce your solution on Windows (but only if it does those three
things).

Mayayana actually wrote:

I would have thought it's silly to not download
the video, since you may want to see it again
later.

It was my mistake for trying to be clear that I wasn't looking for a
web-based solution. I didn't realize so many people are married to the idea
of watching video over the all-in-one HTML protocol (which has so many
disadvantages, especially when dealing with Google, that I don't even want
to list the disadvantages everyone is ignoring but which I'm sure you're
aware of).

For just one example, using the HTML protocol, how do you watch
age-restricted videos with a browser without needing an account?

And it seems even more silly to watch on
the smallest available screen.

That's the whole reason for asking for a Windows 10 solution!

But that's just me.

No. That's all of us.
Portable devices have their place but the big screen is what I'm searching
for here.

I don't typically watch cats exploring cereal boxes
as a way to pass the time on a bus ride. For that I
guess you need a mobile device and there's little
sense in saving it.

Mobile devices have their place, but we already have a usable free YouTube
Red clone for Android so that's why I'm asking for the same thing, but on
Windows.

For that matter, there's
little sense in seeing or hearing it, so a 2" screen
should work just fine. And I suppose you probably
can't easily save it, anyway, if you're on a phone
or tablet that's not designed to have a usable file
system.

Here you're just dead wrong which is unusual for you to be so wrong.

What makes you think you can't save any number of videos and extracted
audio files on a phone and then access the saved files from a folder link
on your Android desktop (using ES File Explorer freeware, for example).

This thread isn't an Android question but you need to rethink that
assumption that Android doesn't have a usable file system.

However you figure it, the Youtube video is a
downloaded video file. It might be a straight
download or a stream. It might be played in
a browser, app, or video player. But it's still a
download. That's the way the Internet works.

I know how the Internet works, and I appreciate that you do too.

The desired app needs to only do these 3 things:
[1] Searches & plays any YouTube video without ever needing an account
[2] Never shows an ad (without the user having to lift a setup finger)
[3] Pushbutton background download of multiple audio or video extractions

Does your Windows solution already do those things?
If so, I want to know how you do that.

I suspect your Android app is essentially
just a step-saving convenience.

I have the NewPipe version 1.0 APK (which I got off of Google Play long ago
and which doesn't seem to exist anymore) but you can read the description
of the opensource 0.99 version app here on F-Droid.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Basically, the opensource NewPipe F-Droid app uses the public Google API to
do, for free, what YouTube Red does, at a cost.

Since your
functionality on tablets and phones is so limited,
it makes sense to focus on convenience. The app
probably combines a browser to do search,
something like DownloadHelper, and functionality
to load the video into a player. Thus, you enter
a search term or title and the app plays it.

No. No. No.
There is no "browser", at least not in terms of a "web browser" type of
interface.

Just think of the app as a YouTube Red clone, for free.
Or better yet, think of the app as a YouTube App that does what you want it
to do, which is that it
[1] Never asks for a log in
[2] Searches for YouTube videos just like the YouTube app does
[3] Plays those YouTube videos just like the YouTube app does
[4] Plays any YouTube video you want (even age restricted stuff)
[5] Never shows an ad (without you doing anything by way of setup)
[6] Downloads those videos (any number of them, in the background)
[7] Extracts the audio (if desired), any number of them, in the bg

If you already have a solution on Windows that does that, please tell me
what it is.

Such a one-click dummy program might be
available for Windows but it's unlikely to be a
big seller.

Which of the 7 items above do you think people do not want?

With a mouse, keyboard, and a
screen that doesn't require a magnifying glass,
it's convenient and sensible on Windows to
actually visit Youtube, for the various conveniences
like seeing the list of related videos and being
able to download the file. Using a browser on
Windows is not a tedious affair.

I just realized, late in the game, that you think my aversion to using a
web browser is due to the fact that it's miserable to use a web browser on
a portable device.

I understand your point of view, even though that's not my reason for not
wanting to use the web browser on Android or on Windows just to watch and
download youtube videos and audio without ads.

You are correct though, that using a web browser on a portable device is
far worse than using a web browser on a PC, so I will agree with you on
that point.

But, my aversion to using a web browser to watch YouTube videos is actually
due to the fact that there are other huge disadvantages of using the HTML
protocol to stream and download and extract audio and video and to block
all ads and to block tracking (as much as possible) and to obviate the need
for an account.

Basically, a web browser is an all-in-one-tool whose HTML-based compromises
can't compete with a dedicated single-purpose tool such that a web browser
makes for a lousy video editor and just as a web browser makes for a lousy
Usenet client and just as a web browser makes for a lousy MUA and just as a
web browser makes for a lousy text editor and just as a web browser makes a
lousy photo editor and just as a web browser makes a lousy ftp file
transfer client and just as a web browser makes a lousy torrent downloader
and just as a web browser makes a lousy firewall and just as a web makes a
lousy YouTube video player, ad blocker, audio extractor, and video
downloader.

My aversion to web browsers for dedicated purposes is that a good dedicated
tool always does the job better just like a table saw does the job better
than an all-in-one drill-press-miter-saw-table-saw-radial-arm-saw-band-saw
contraption.

In other words, what you're asking is really, "How
can I reduce my options on Windows so that it's
as simple as a phone?" I don't expect many people
would want such a thing.

Actually, all I'm asking is for how you do these 3 things on Windows in the
same "app".

[1] Search for & play /any/ YouTube video without ever needing an account
[2] Never see an ad (even without the user having to lift a setup finger)
[3] Pushbutton background download of multiple audio & video extractions

Wolf K actually wrote:

The only thing I don't do Firefox is #5. VideoDownloadHelper can do it,
though, as can other extensions.

Really, you should do some searching before you make dissing remarks
about "stone age tools".

I have used those downloadhelpers in the past, and there is often a catch,
whether it's a size limitation (there is no size limitation in New Pipe) or
a login requirement.

Even so, how do you block all YouTube ads?
(Presumably you have to maintain an ad blocker.)

How do you watch age-restricted graphic-content videos without logging in?

Mayayana actually wrote:

Click them? I do that occasionally, when I
get fired up to listen to numerous lectures on
a similar topic. One page leads to another and
I end up getting interested in things I didn't
know existed.

The search on New Pipe is the same search as on the YouTube app (AFAICT).

But how do you watch age-restricted graphic-content video without needing a
log in?

And how do you extract hours-long audio at the touch of a button?
(Most web-based downloader/extractors are file-size limited and many
require a log in.)

I'm curious about the reverse:
Without visiting the page, how did you find
all those videos that you want to watch?

The search on New Pipe is the same search as on the YouTube app (AFAICT).

Rene Lamontagne actually wrote:

Boy, this red clone app must be the *Holy Grail*

Actually, NewPipe has rough edges since it's just an opensource app that
circumvents a lot of Google shenanigans by using the Google public API.
https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-...e-app-android/

It's goal is to clone YouTube Red, for free.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

The goal is to get, for free, the ability to search and watch any YouTube
video (even restricted ones) using any player you want to use without
needing to log into anything ever and to never see an ad without needing to
lift a setup finger and to also be able to download any number of any size
video (I've done hours long videos many times) and extract any number of
any size audio files in the background.

I already have all this on Android.
I'm just asking how to get the same functionality on Windows.

On 14/07/2017 17:00, Roy Tremblay wrote:
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Lucifer Morningstar actually wrote:

There is an add-on for firefox.

Does that Firefox addon allow you to do this on Windows?
[1] Graphically search for and watch any YouTube video
[2] (even age-restricted or graphic-content videos)
[3] using any video or audio player you want to use
[4] (without needing to log into anything ever)
[5] not even to download the software or extract the files
[6] and to never see an ad
[7] (without needing to lift a setup finger)
[8] and to also be able to download any number of videos
[9] of any size (I've done 2-hour videos many times)
[10] and extract any number of audio files
[11] also of any size (I've done 2-hour audios many times)
[12] in the background (all without javascript issues!)

I already have all this on Android.
I'm just asking how to get the same functionality on Windows.

If you have all those things on Windows, I ask you to tell us how you
accomplish that feat.

youtube-dl.exe does all you want and more.

Thanks for that suggestion, which might work on Windows to do the job.
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
"youtube-dl is a command-line program to download videos from YouTube.com"

There's a user interface.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/youtube-dl-gtk/
"YouTube-DL-PyTK (formerly known as YouTube-DL-GTK) is just a graphical
launcher for the popular youtube downloader youtube-dl"

So I'm testing the combination out now.
Thanks for that suggestion which possibly fits the question!

Thanks for that suggestion which possibly fits the question!

Following up on your suggestion, here are the files I downloaded.

[1] youtube-dl.exe (github) 8.08MB
[2] YouTube-DL-PyTK_17.4.16_win64.exe 9.09MB (sourceforge)
[3] Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86)
vcredist_x86.exe 4.9MB
[x] Python (python) unknown size

I didn't download the Python because the Windows.exe says it doesn't need
Python (which it says is embedded inside the binary), and besides, the URL
pointer brought me to the main Python page where it would take too much
effort to figure out how to install Python on Windows if it's not needed.

If others want to follow in my footsteps, here is the download trail that
it took me on so far to set up a youtube video player & downloader on
Windows.

[1] The youtube-dl command line interface for Windows is somewhere here
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

[2] But I couldn't find anything called "youtube-dl" there

[3] And worse, that youtube-dl requires Python version 2.6, 2.7, or 3.2+

[4] Where Python can be found here
http://www.python.org/

[5] However, the Windows executable there does not require Python
youtube-dl.exe

[6] Bbecause Python is already embedded into the youtube-dl.exe binary

[7] But that Windows binary does require Microsoft Visual C++ 2010
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/down...s.aspx?id=5555

[8] And, in the end, you're going to want the graphical user interface
 YouTube-DL-PyTK_17.4.16_win64.exe Graphical User Interface to
youtube-dl

[9] Which is found on sourceforge:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/pr...4.16_win64.exe

Since all I ask for is a solution, it's time to install and test out your
helpful suggestion.

Roy Tremblay actually wrote:

[8] And, in the end, you're going to want the graphical user interface
YouTube-DL-PyTK_17.4.16_win64.exe Graphical User Interface to
youtube-dl

[9] Which is found on sourceforge:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/pr...4.16_win64.exe

Since all I ask for is a solution, it's time to install and test out your
helpful suggestion.

I must have slightly misunderstood the instructions because clicking on the
youtube-dl.exe just died instantly saying:
Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: unable to load the file system codec
ImportError: No module named 'encodings'

The YouTube-DL-PyTK_17.4.16_win64.exe was an installer named
YouTube-DL-PyTK

Which, when run, asks for a "Video URL" and a "Username"
(You need to know the URL, but at least it says the Username is optional.)

So I put this 1.5 hour documentary URL into the URL field:
EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad8ColKTQew

I saw a notice that the yt-dl-pytk.exe executable accessed the network.
And there is a yt-dl-pytk.exe window showing the progress.
[youtube] Ad8ColKTQew: Downloading webpage
[youtube] Ad8ColKTQew: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] Ad8ColKTQew: Extracting video information
[youtube] Ad8ColKTQew: Downloading MPD manifest
WARNING: Requested formats are incompatible for merge and will be
merged into mkv.
[download] Destination: C:\...\EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _ Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.f136.mp4
[download] Destination: C:\...\EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _ Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.f136.mp4
[download] 100% of 714.91MiB in 15:24
[download] Destination: C:\...\EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _ Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.f251.webm
[download] 100% of 83.39MiB in 03:53
[ffmpeg] Merging formats into "C:\...\EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.mkv"
Deleting original file C:\...\EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _ Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.f136.mp4 (pass -k to keep)
Deleting original file C:\...\Desktop\EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _ Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.f251.webm (pass -k to keep)

And then a green form popped up:
YouTube-DL-PyTK 17.4.16
SUCCESS!!
Video has been successfully downloaded to your desktop,
thank you for using YouTube-DL-PyTK!
EINSTEIN AND QUANTUM MECHANICS _ Quantum Physics documentary-Ad8ColKTQew.mkv 797M

While this tool is nice, and in fact,this is actually very nice (and
useful!), it still doesn't solve the original question.

Roy Tremblay wrote:

I didn't realize so many people are married to the idea
of watching video over the all-in-one HTML protocol

It would be nit-picking to point out that it's the http protocol, rather
than html which is relevant, IKWYM. But AFAIK http/https is the *only*
method that has ever been available to view YouTube ...

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