Is there a YouTube player with no ads app like AT New Pipe for Windows?

Andy Burns actually wrote:

It would be nit-picking to point out that it's the http protocol, rather
than html which is relevant, IKWYM. But AFAIK http/https is the *only*
method that has ever been available to view YouTube ...

Good point where I appreciate the correction.
Presumably then the YouTube app uses the HTTP protocol?

On 14/07/2017 21:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:
If you looked a little bit closely, you should/could have spotted that
he's not a Dutchman (but just our resident nym-shifter)

He is a paedophile. He is looking for ways to hide his IP address and
how to use hosts file so that nobody can spy on him; Not even authorities!!

You are correct to say that he is our resident nym-shifter but on a
serious note, he is a member of paedophilia group operating in the UK.



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Roy Tremblay wrote:

Presumably then the YouTube app uses the HTTP protocol?

Yes, back in the day a single video was a single file to download,
buffering a certain amount before starting playing, then hoping it kept up.

Now each video is split into segments a few seconds long, in various
resolutions, framerates and encodings, your browser (or app) downloads
them in sequence and stitches them together, quite likely passing the
encoded video to your GPU to actually render it, it can swap resolution
"mid stream" if you resize your browser window, or switch e.g. from fast
wifi to slow 3G connection, but it all comes via http:

"Roy Tremblay" wrote

| I'm curious about the reverse:
| Without visiting the page, how did you find
| all those videos that you want to watch?
|

I start at duckduckgo. Say I wanted lectures by
Bill Gates. (Bear with me. This is just an example.
So I search duckduckgo for "Bill Gates youtube". When
I get hits I go to those pages. Along the right are
lists of suggestions that I might like:

Bill Gates solves all problems (3:22)
Bill Gates explains his amazing genius (1:32:54)
Bill Gates knows more about education than anyone (4:22:12)
Bill Gates explains things he doesn't even know about (27:12:44)
Bill and Melinda in Africa (22:31)
Bill and Warren play cards and gloat over their amazingness (44:21)

Each page will have different lists, as you probably
know. So it's usually not long before I'm overwhelmed
with knowledge lust, greedily clicking links for yet
more videos. (And the great part is that none of
them actually features the wisdom of Bill Gates.

| The search on New Pipe is the same search as on the YouTube app (AFAICT).

I've never had much luck with Youtube search.

Mayayana actually wrote:

| The search on New Pipe is the same search as on the YouTube app (AFAICT).
I've never had much luck with Youtube search.

I guess we can agree that the search inside of YouTube stinks, but it's
"good enough" for watching YouTube documentaries of interest (which is
pretty much all that I watch despite GoodGuy's perverse accusations borne
out of his own sick mind.

What's scary is that people like GoodGuy actually exist.
They can't contribute one iota of value.

They suck all the value out of a conversation, and bring it down (way down)
to their level.

Each page will have different lists, as you probably
know. So it's usually not long before I'm overwhelmed
with knowledge lust, greedily clicking links for yet
more videos. (And the great part is that none of
them actually features the wisdom of Bill Gates.

Well, to be fair, the search on a browser is more powerful in that it has
the "not" and the "or" and the "and" feature, whereas the search inside the
New Pipe app is just a rudimentary search, but, like you, I type
"ultraviolet catastrophe" for example, in New Pipe, where what I end up
listening to is interesting things about "blackbox radiation" along with
"string theory" and "quantum mechanics" and "Neils Bohr" and "Werner
Heisenberg" all at the same time.

Anyway, I'll take it as a fact that none of you have, on Windows, the
capability we all have on Android, which is an app that does what the
YouTube Red app does, but for free.

Nonetheless, the technical suggestion by Lucifer Morningstar worked out to
do one of the many things that the New Pipe app does, so, from that
standpoint, it was a successful quest.

If ever, in the future, an app is written for Windows that does the
following dozen things that New Pipe already does, let me know! Thanks.

[1] Search for and watch any YouTube video
[2] Using either the native (built-in) AV player
[3] Or using any video or audio player you want it to
[4] (without needing to ever log into an account)
[5] and to never see an advertisement ever!
[5] Whether in the app itself or in the video playing inside the app
[7] (without ever needing to lift a setup finger or maintain ad blockers)
[8] and to also be able to download any number of videos
[9] of any length (I've done 2-hour documentary videos many times)
[10] and extract any number of audio files
[11] also of any size (I've done 2-hour audio lectures many times)
[12] all downloaded in the background (& without needing javascript!)

Andy Burns actually wrote:

Presumably then the YouTube app uses the HTTP protocol?

Yes, back in the day a single video was a single file to download,
buffering a certain amount before starting playing, then hoping it kept up.

Now each video is split into segments a few seconds long, in various
resolutions, framerates and encodings, your browser (or app) downloads
them in sequence and stitches them together, quite likely passing the
encoded video to your GPU to actually render it, it can swap resolution
"mid stream" if you resize your browser window, or switch e.g. from fast
wifi to slow 3G connection, but it all comes via http:

Thank you for clarifying that even the YouTube Red, YouTube App, and
NewPipe apps use the HTTP protocol for interfacing with the YouTube domain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6D_XcaB04

My main reason for disliking a browser is, not so much as Mayayana said, to
improve upon the substandard user experience on small mobile devices, but
more because the POWER just isn't ever going to be in a multi-use tool as
compared to a well-written single-use tool.
https://ausdroid.net/2016/02/17/newp...wnloading-app/

A classic example is a IMAP/SMTP client or an NNTP client where few people
could seriously assert that the multi-use HTTP-based browser is in any way
better at doing the single task at hand than the MUA or news client.
https://newpipe.fileplanet.com/apk

Even the multiple-use MUA/news clients suffer (such as Thunderbird) from
trying to do too much and nothing well.
http://techwiser.com/play-youtube-vi...round-android/

That's a long-winded way of saying that a dedicated YouTube browsing,
playing, searching, downloading, and audio-extraction app is almost always
going to provide more appropriate functionality, that a web browser ever
will, all without the issues associated with the disconcerting browser
privacy and security flaws that you and I are already familiar with.

In short, there doesn't appear to be an app for Windows that does what the
New Pipe app does for Android. At least nobody has come up with one yet.

Here's GitHub NewPipe source code for those interested in testing it out.
https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe (https://github.com/912d/NewPipe)

Roy Tremblay wrote on 7/14/2017 10:43 AM:

I never knew just asking if people know of a Windows equivalent to a free
YouTube Red clone app

After all the hoo-hah, I logged in to Google Play Store and searched for
YouTube Red

Didn't come up with anything that looked like what you describe.

I'm running Android 7.1.1 on a OnePlus 3T.

??

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
Roy Tremblay wrote:
John Doe actually wrote:

There are times when I have a dozen or more YouTube tabs
open, when cruising movies. Shirley you can do that with
a smartphone app? YouTube does not belong in a browser?
Yeah, right. Only an ignorant moron would say that.

I apologize for having touched off some raw nerves simply
by asking for a Windows equivalent to a free YouTube Red
clone app.

It was you reference to "stuck in the stone age" that set
people off.

BTW, I see no ads at all on YouTube. I do see ads on
newsfeed videos that I watch on my smartphone.

Boy, this red clone app must be the *Holy Grail*

Apparently it thinks so. But seeking it has not even occurred
to me. Doing the Internet on a smartphone is horribly
restrictive.

Sounds like it has never even used a PC.

This troll sounds like it has never even used a PC,
and it is acting like a Guru...

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Rene Lamontagne rlamont shaw.ca actually wrote:

Boy, this red clone app must be the *Holy Grail*

Actually, NewPipe has rough edges since it's just an opensource app that
circumvents a lot of Google shenanigans by using the Google public API.
https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-...e-app-android/

It's goal is to clone YouTube Red, for free.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

The goal is to get, for free, the ability to search and watch any YouTube
video (even restricted ones) using any player you want to use without
needing to log into anything ever and to never see an ad without needing to
lift a setup finger and to also be able to download any number of any size
video (I've done hours long videos many times) and extract any number of
any size audio files in the background.

I already have all this on Android.
I'm just asking how to get the same functionality on Windows.

On 14/07/2017 23:52, Roy Tremblay wrote:
I guess we can agree that the search inside of YouTube stinks, but it's
"good enough" for watching YouTube documentaries of interest (which is
pretty much all that I watch despite GoodGuy's perverse accusations borne
out of his own sick mind.

What's scary is that people like GoodGuy actually exist.
They can't contribute one iota of value.

They suck all the value out of a conversation, and bring it down (way down)
to their level.

I DON'T HELP OR ASSOCIATE WITH ANYBODY WHO IS AFFILIATED WITH A KNOWN
PAEDOPHILIA RING.

THE SOONER YOU ARE CAUGHT THE BETTER IT WILL BE FOR INNOCENT CHILDREN OF
THIS WORLD.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO HIDE IDENTITY OR IP ADDR4ESS WHEN VIEWING
YOUTUBE VIDEOS. GOOGLE IS A REPUTABLE COMPANY DOING REPUTABLE
BUSINESS. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE NOT REPUTABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE TWO DON'T MIX AND IT IS CLEAR HERE.

TRY TO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP BECAUSE IT WON'T LAST LONG IF EVERYTHING
GOES TO PLAN.




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Frank Slootweg wrote:

If you looked a little bit closely, you should/could have
spotted that he's not a Dutchman (but just our resident
nym-shifter)

If the nym-shifting troll sticks around the Windows group, I
will frequently spot it.

I suppose it is one of an increasing number of
smartphone/tablet users that have never even used a PC.
Another clueless invasion of USENET.

John Doe actually wrote:

Boy, this red clone app must be the *Holy Grail*

Apparently it thinks so. But seeking it has not even occurred
to me. Doing the Internet on a smartphone is horribly
restrictive.

It's a very simple app where the biggest value is that you never see an
advertisement, and you can download the video if you like, or the audio, or
just watch it using any player you want.

Here's a quick look: https://newpipe.schabi.org
Here's another: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

I'm pretty sure you don't have the power but if you don't need that power,
then you don't have high expectations, that's all.

There's nothing wrong with you having low expectations.
This thread just isn't for you.

Nym-shifting troll from the Android group...

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John Doe always.look message.header actually wrote:

You are freaking clueless if you think that YouTube does not
belong in a browser.

I'm sorry if I touched off a raw nerve, as misunderstandings can happen in
Usenet, so I apologize if I hurt your feelings.

I thought I had been clear in the op that a browser/adblocker solution
wasn't what I was seeking (which is why I provided the Android example of
the YouTube Red clone app by way of example).

All I'm asking is if anyone already has a YouTube Red clone in Windows.
It's not a hard question.

It's probably only hard because the app probably doesn't exist yet in
Windows, so, people are stuck in the stone age because they haven't
invented the wheel yet.

Once you use a dedicated YouTube app, especially one that stops all ads and
downloads anything at the touch of a button, you'll never want anything
else.

No need to reply unless you know of a Windows equivalent to a free YouTube
Red clone app.

Alek actually wrote:

After all the hoo-hah, I logged in to Google Play Store and searched for
YouTube Red

Didn't come up with anything that looked like what you describe.

I'm running Android 7.1.1 on a OnePlus 3T.

It's great that there are intelligent people like you are who want to know
what it is that we're talking about.

I don't use YouTube Red (because I get it for free, which is what this
thread is all about), but quick google shows YouTube Red has been around
since 2015, so I'll reference the following links for folks to read up on.

https://www.youtube.com/red
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Red

Official YouTube Blog: Meet YouTube Red, the ultimate YouTube experience
https://youtube.googleblog.com/2015/10/red.html

Everything you need to know about YouTube Red
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/youtube-red-details/

YouTube Red, A $9.99 Site-Wide Ad-Free Subscription With Play Music,
Launches Oct 28 2015
https://techcrunch.com/2015/10/21/youtube-red/

YouTubers Are Up In Arms About YouTube Red
http://gizmodo.com/youtubers-are-up-...red-1738022087

Good Guy actually wrote:

I DON'T HELP OR ASSOCIATE WITH ANYBODY WHO IS AFFILIATED WITH A KNOWN
PAEDOPHILIA RING.

THE SOONER YOU ARE CAUGHT THE BETTER IT WILL BE FOR INNOCENT CHILDREN OF
THIS WORLD.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO HIDE IDENTITY OR IP ADDR4ESS WHEN VIEWING
YOUTUBE VIDEOS. GOOGLE IS A REPUTABLE COMPANY DOING REPUTABLE
BUSINESS. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE NOT REPUTABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE TWO DON'T MIX AND IT IS CLEAR HERE.

TRY TO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP BECAUSE IT WON'T LAST LONG IF EVERYTHING
GOES TO PLAN.

Your own words tell everyone in frightening how sick you really are.

I pray that you seek professional help as your creepy unfounded accusations
and disquieting stalking tell the whole world how alarmingly perverse your
thought processes are.