Is there a YouTube player with no ads app like AT New Pipe for Windows?

Roy Tremblay actually wrote:

Do you know of a similar YouTube replacement for Windows that eliminates
all ads and allows pushbutton download of the video or audio?

Here are some screenshots taken just now of the "real" NewPipe application!
NewPipe 0.9.9 (36) (org.schabi.newpipe) added on Jul 2, 2017
https://newpipe.schabi.org
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe

When I installed that "real" NewPipe application on Android 4.x I was able
to download, in seconds, everything on YouTube that I tried (both video and
audio) at the touch of a button.

TEST 1: The "real" NewPipe plays video just fine:
https://s2.postimg.org/klin7q0bt/newpipe000.jpg

TEST 2: The real NewPipe extracts just audio just fine:
https://s2.postimg.org/51b9h6q7d/newpipe001.jpg
RESULTS: https://s2.postimg.org/bvlk6viuh/newpipe003.jpg

TEST 3: The real NewPipe downloads just video just fine:
https://s2.postimg.org/908h00euh/newpipe002.jpg
RESULTS: https://s2.postimg.org/en4txhhd5/newpipe004.jpg

easy testcase: https://youtu.be/AI5wEcWAmkg
hard testcase: https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw

It would be nice to get some feedback from Android users if they're
similarly successful with the "real" NewPipe app.

Lucifer Morningstar actually wrote:

youtube-dl.exe -h should list all the options.

My "youtube-dl.exe" pre-compiled Windows binary fails to find Python:
C:\ youtube-dl.exe -h
Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: unable to load the file system codec
ImportError: No module named 'encodings'
Current thread 0x00002330 (most recent call first):

But see below that I just found out, from your note above, that there are
not three, but *four* different youtube-dl-stuff implementations, two of
which use the exact same name of "youtube-dl.exe".

It does for me.
You can get the latest at
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe
You can update any time with youtube-dl.exe -U.

Ug! Why didn't you provide that URL sooner!

This page is where I got my original "youtube-dl.exe" binary:
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

This page is the download you just suggested for the "youtube-dl.exe"
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe

They're both named exactly the same name.
But they're different executables!

The first requires Python!
The second does not.

Then when I installed Python on Windows 10, I couldn't figure out how to
use it. (I'll ask separately.)

I have not found it necessary to install Python for Windows.

I think 100% of the confusion here is because not only are there *four*
different implementations, each with different requirements - but two of
the implementations have the same name (but different requirements!).

1. All-in-1 GUI "YouTube-DL-PyTK_17.4.16_win64.exe" installer
From: https://downloads.sourceforge.net/pr...4.16_win64.exe
Size: 9536030 bytes (9 MB)
SHA256: DB520866D732E069CB4C830C0B58FF4B3ACD789F5E6F0D63D5 BA4F0A8DAD0C24
This has no requirements (AFAICT).
2. Windows binary "youtube-dl.exe"
From: https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl.exe
Size: 7415375 bytes (7 MB)
SHA256: C2D9C47C7E79FBD9ADA3C5410B3C1E5C9D0EE900181F7B5BD2 B0B685A3BC5830
This says it requires C++ but it certainly requires Python
3. Windows binary "youtube-dl.exe"
From: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe
Size: 7760634 bytes (7 MB)
SHA256: C0396D47480D7C9A14464A8E51E79993F88BD76D6BCFDB1131 2EFD0D88F3C5C7
This does not require Python!
4. Python-interpreted "youtube-dl"
This requires Python but I don't know how to run it with Python yet.
Size: 1551002 bytes (1 MB)
SHA256: A23B13763328B2BBF6A2575413C43CAAEEE87FFA5405091A98 B600B6EFAF8DBC

In summary, I don't suggest #2 or #4 above because both require Python.
#1 works in the easy testcase, but fails on the harder testcase
easy testcase: https://youtu.be/AI5wEcWAmkg
hard testcase: https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw

Here is a test of #3 on Windows 10.

Make sure this youtube-dl.exe is up to date:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -U
youtube-dl is up-to-date (2017.07.15)
Download the easy video:
cmd youtube-dl.exe https://youtu.be/AI5wEcWAmkg
20,750,914 Simple Usenet Tutorial-AI5wEcWAmkg.mkv
Download the hard video:
cmd youtube-dl.exe https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
93,036,705 Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me-VuNIsY6JdUw.mkv
Extract just the audio from the hard video:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -x https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
ERROR: ffprobe or avprobe not found. Please install one.

Roy Tremblay actually wrote:
Do you know of a similar YouTube replacement for Windows that eliminates
all ads and allows pushbutton download of the video or audio?

Thanks to Lucifer Morningstart, here is a tested suggestion on Windows 10
1. Obtain the latest ffmpeg setup (you'll need ffprobe.exe).
http://adaptivesamples.com/how-to-in...eg-on-windows/
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/htt...n64-static.zip
Unzip ffmpeg-20170711-0780ad9-win64-static.zip & rename to "ffmpeg".
2. Obtain the latest working youtube-dl.exe (get the right one!)
From: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe
Size: 7760634 bytes (7 MB)
SHA256: C0396D47480D7C9A14464A8E51E79993F88BD76D6BCFDB1131 2EFD0D88F3C5C7
This particular "youtube-dl.exe" does not require Python!
3. Make sure this particular youtube-dl.exe is up to date:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -U
youtube-dl is up-to-date (2017.07.15)
4. Download the easy test video:
cmd youtube-dl.exe https://youtu.be/AI5wEcWAmkg
20,750,914 Simple Usenet Tutorial-AI5wEcWAmkg.mkv
5. Try to extract the audio from the easy test video:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -x https://youtu.be/AI5wEcWAmkg
ERROR: ffprobe or avprobe not found. Please install one.
6. Copy over your recently downloaded ffmpeg binary "ffprobe.exe":
cmd copy c:\path\ffmpeg\bin\ffprobe.exe .\ffprobe.exe
7. Try again to extract the audio from the youtube video:
cmd youtube-dl.exe -x https://youtu.be/AI5wEcWAmkg
7,551,857 Simple Usenet Tutorial-AI5wEcWAmkg.opus
8. Now try the harder test which was suggested by Mayayana:
cmd youtube-dl.exe https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
93,036,705 Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me-VuNIsY6JdUw.mkv
cmd youtube-dl.exe -x https://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
3,779,012 Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me-VuNIsY6JdUw.opus
QED
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"Roy Tremblay" wrote

| As I was re-testing things, I realized that I screwed up in my earlier
| assessment so I was WRONG that NewPipe failed on the Taylor Swift
| testcase!
|

Interesting. So I guess DownloadHelper is maybe just
outdated. I had accepted that I'd never get VEVO videos.
That means that if I buy an Android phone and fall in love
with Taylor Swift, I can watch an ant that looks just like
her, singing from the phone screen. What'll they think
of next?

I'm surprised by how much work these things take. I
downloaded the source code for youtube-dl. I've only
looked at it briefly, but it looks fairly involved. All just
to get past Google's obfuscation. I guess it's become
somewhat of an arms race, as mega-corporations try
any trick they can to turn the Intyernet into interactive
pay-TV.

"Roy Tremblay" wrote

| I have not found it necessary to install Python for Windows.
|
| I think 100% of the confusion here is because not only are there *four*
| different implementations, each with different requirements - but two of
| the implementations have the same name (but different requirements!).
|

Their website is not clear. It says different things in
different places. What it seems to be is a Python script
that requires a Python runtime. The Windows EXE is
a package holding both. (7+ MB) I'm guessing it may be
something like a ZIP SFX, or a small C++ program that
writes the runtime and script to disk and then runs them.
The runtime is apparently written in VC++ 2010, so that
the runtime for that is also required. So the whole thing
is a 20+- MB package. Clunky, but the packaging is made
as convenient as possible, so that it seems like a program.

Mayayana actually wrote:

Interesting. So I guess DownloadHelper is maybe just
outdated. I had accepted that I'd never get VEVO videos.

Here's all that I can tell you since this is the first time I've run into
"Vevo" videos.

1. The bad implementation of NewPipe did fail on the vevo video.
2. But the good implementation of NewPipe worked.
3. Likewise, the bad implementations of youtube-dl-stuff failed.
4. But the good youtube-dl-stuff implementations worked.

At this point, I'm done testing, and I have written up the solution which
is:
For Android - use the schabi.org NewPipe implementation only
For Windows - use the youtube-dl.org command line only

All the rest sucked.

That means that if I buy an Android phone and fall in love
with Taylor Swift, I can watch an ant that looks just like
her, singing from the phone screen. What'll they think
of next?

Yes. The mobile device screen is small.

But if you use the schabi.org NewPipe, you can listen to that ant singing
on tinny speakers!
https://s2.postimg.org/51b9h6q7d/newpipe001.jpg

You don't have to watch the childish video!
https://s2.postimg.org/bvlk6viuh/newpipe003.jp

I'm surprised by how much work these things take. I
downloaded the source code for youtube-dl. I've only
looked at it briefly, but it looks fairly involved.

Source code is out of my league but the good news is that both the
Schabi.org NewPipe and youtube-dl are opensource implementations.

All just to get past Google's obfuscation.

I had noticed, while testing on Windows, using a browser (yuck), Youtube
popped up ads, which suck. I had not seen a youtube ad in so long that I
had forgotten about them.

Anyone who watches YouTube in a browser is not using a robust solution,
IMHO.

I guess it's become
somewhat of an arms race, as mega-corporations try
any trick they can to turn the Intyernet into interactive
pay-TV.

Agreed. The thing about browsers is that they're so bad at so many
privacy-related things that anyone who seriously suggests watching YouTube
in a browser probably doesn't have a clue about what a robust solution
should look like.

Mayayana actually wrote:

Their website is not clear.

That web site is atrocious!
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

It says different things in different places.

Agreed. It calls things by names that aren't used anywhere else too.

What it seems to be is a Python script
that requires a Python runtime.

I don't disagree because the GUI, which is a standalone all-in-one package,
barfed on Taylor Swift, outputting a Python error.

In addition, the command-line executable also barfed giving a Python based
error message.

The Windows EXE is
a package holding both. (7+ MB) I'm guessing it may be
something like a ZIP SFX, or a small C++ program that
writes the runtime and script to disk and then runs them.

I don't disagree - but - be careful as there are two different command-line
executable implementations of the exact same name.
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl.exe
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe

The runtime is apparently written in VC++ 2010, so that
the runtime for that is also required. So the whole thing
is a 20+- MB package. Clunky, but the packaging is made
as convenient as possible, so that it seems like a program.

Actually, the executables I downloaded are about 7MB while the
all-in-one-gui is an installer at 9MB (packed) so, they're smaller than
20MB unless you're adding in the need for separate things like Python &
C++.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:05:37 +0000 (UTC), Roy Tremblay wrote:

I already have all this on Android.
I'm just asking how to get the same functionality on Windows.

Port Android to Windows, and then use the Android app :-) . HTH. -- tlvp
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 04:17:17 +0000 (UTC), Roy Tremblay wrote:

... you bring up a valuable shortcoming in NewPipe ...

Yes; and it's such a valuable shortcoming that, were it to be overcome,
NewPipe itself would cease to be of any interest or value any longer.

Or perhaps you mis-spoke yourself :-) ?

Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:05:34 -0400, Mayayana wrote, inter alia:

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Bill Gates explains his amazing genius (1:32:54)
Bill Gates knows more about education than anyone (4:22:12)
Bill Gates explains things he doesn't even know about (27:12:44)
Bill and Melinda in Africa (22:31)
Bill and Warren play cards and gloat over their amazingness (44:21)

Careful: the DoJ may get you for your ill-concealed slander of our current
(albeit temporary) PotUS. Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 02:13:53 +0000 (UTC), Roy Tremblay wrote:

if ..., then they
aren't serious about watching YouTube efficiently.

Who could possibly use "serious" and "watching YouTube" in the same breath?

(Sheesh!) Cheers, -- tlvp
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:44:10 -0400, Alek wrote:

Roy Tremblay wrote on 7/14/2017 8:17 PM:

I don't use YouTube Red (because I get it for free snip)

Can I get it for free too?

Alek, you little devil you ... I bet he's totally confused by your picking
up on his change of reference-point for his "it" :-) ! Cheers, -- tlvp
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