MS Word 2010

On 1/15/19 7:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:13:40 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 4:51 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 5:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

Have not found a group for Word 2010

My wife is using MS Word 2010 on her Win10 machine with 16 gig of RAM


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

If I check the app while running it is using under 100 megs of memory.

All MS help answers are absurdly irrelevant to so solving this.

She is simply limiting how much she will cut and paste at a time but
this really seems ridiculous...as she is only trying to cut and paste
perhaps three or four pages .

Is what she's cutting and pasting from a web site? If so, it's
possible that there is a lot of hidden content within the text
included to ensure that nobody copies the content without
authorization.

That's why I set up my software of choice, LibreOffice, to paste as
plaintext no matter what the content is.




To give more info, she is not cutting and pasting from a website, the
document is about 200k in size and text only.

Though by taking a second between a cut and a paste has mostly solved
the problem , it is not completely solved.

She has it set to autosave every three minutes and and crash has been
saved to a .doc only readable from Google documents.

She has lost no work but it is a minor annoyance for her.

And the plug-in was not responsible for the crash? I was actually
hoping that it was due to an external factor.




The machine has 16 gigs of RAM and has never once crashed until she
added the plug-in.


That said, her workday is sometimes 12 hours long.

What she did today was save all... close down, then re-open every 2 or 3
hours.

No problems today since she has done that.

My guess is just too much stuff in the cache.

That wouldn't surprise me. Considering how slow Windows gets when a
user doesn't regularly clean the system disk with the Disk Cleanup
option, there's a strong possibility that you are correct.




One last thing :

MS Word is the 32 bit version.

The 64 bit version of MS Word might be a better choice but she seems to
be doing ok now

On 1/16/19 7:28 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote in


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

Check out https://www.freeoffice.com/en/ made and supported by a very
reliable German company. It's MSO compatible. I used it for a year and
then bought the pay version and have been using it for several years.



I personally use Linux and Libre Office but my wife is not going to use
anything other than MS Word

thank you though

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:11:48 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 7:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:13:40 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 4:51 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 5:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

Have not found a group for Word 2010

My wife is using MS Word 2010 on her Win10 machine with 16 gig of RAM


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

If I check the app while running it is using under 100 megs of memory.

All MS help answers are absurdly irrelevant to so solving this.

She is simply limiting how much she will cut and paste at a time but
this really seems ridiculous...as she is only trying to cut and paste
perhaps three or four pages .

Is what she's cutting and pasting from a web site? If so, it's
possible that there is a lot of hidden content within the text
included to ensure that nobody copies the content without
authorization.

That's why I set up my software of choice, LibreOffice, to paste as
plaintext no matter what the content is.




To give more info, she is not cutting and pasting from a website, the
document is about 200k in size and text only.

Though by taking a second between a cut and a paste has mostly solved
the problem , it is not completely solved.

She has it set to autosave every three minutes and and crash has been
saved to a .doc only readable from Google documents.

She has lost no work but it is a minor annoyance for her.

And the plug-in was not responsible for the crash? I was actually
hoping that it was due to an external factor.




The machine has 16 gigs of RAM and has never once crashed until she
added the plug-in.


That said, her workday is sometimes 12 hours long.

What she did today was save all... close down, then re-open every 2 or 3
hours.

No problems today since she has done that.

My guess is just too much stuff in the cache.

That wouldn't surprise me. Considering how slow Windows gets when a
user doesn't regularly clean the system disk with the Disk Cleanup
option, there's a strong possibility that you are correct.




One last thing :

MS Word is the 32 bit version.

The 64 bit version of MS Word might be a better choice but she seems to
be doing ok now

Microsoft deploys the 32-bit version by default even when you're on
their download page looking for the 64-bit one. I'm not sure why they
do that but they made it fairly difficult for me to get the 64-bit
version of Office 2013 when I wanted it. I imagine that the only
difference between the two, either way, is that the 64-bit can access
more than 4GB of memory but I'm likely wrong and looking forward to
nospam's rebuttal.

On 1/16/19 9:48 AM, silverslimer wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:11:48 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 7:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:13:40 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 4:51 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 5:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

Have not found a group for Word 2010

My wife is using MS Word 2010 on her Win10 machine with 16 gig of RAM


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

If I check the app while running it is using under 100 megs of memory.

All MS help answers are absurdly irrelevant to so solving this.

She is simply limiting how much she will cut and paste at a time but
this really seems ridiculous...as she is only trying to cut and paste
perhaps three or four pages .

Is what she's cutting and pasting from a web site? If so, it's
possible that there is a lot of hidden content within the text
included to ensure that nobody copies the content without
authorization.

That's why I set up my software of choice, LibreOffice, to paste as
plaintext no matter what the content is.




To give more info, she is not cutting and pasting from a website, the
document is about 200k in size and text only.

Though by taking a second between a cut and a paste has mostly solved
the problem , it is not completely solved.

She has it set to autosave every three minutes and and crash has been
saved to a .doc only readable from Google documents.

She has lost no work but it is a minor annoyance for her.

And the plug-in was not responsible for the crash? I was actually
hoping that it was due to an external factor.




The machine has 16 gigs of RAM and has never once crashed until she
added the plug-in.


That said, her workday is sometimes 12 hours long.

What she did today was save all... close down, then re-open every 2 or 3
hours.

No problems today since she has done that.

My guess is just too much stuff in the cache.

That wouldn't surprise me. Considering how slow Windows gets when a
user doesn't regularly clean the system disk with the Disk Cleanup
option, there's a strong possibility that you are correct.




One last thing :

MS Word is the 32 bit version.

The 64 bit version of MS Word might be a better choice but she seems to
be doing ok now

Microsoft deploys the 32-bit version by default even when you're on
their download page looking for the 64-bit one. I'm not sure why they
do that but they made it fairly difficult for me to get the 64-bit
version of Office 2013 when I wanted it. I imagine that the only
difference between the two, either way, is that the 64-bit can access
more than 4GB of memory but I'm likely wrong and looking forward to
nospam's rebuttal.




Guess I will uninstall the 32 bit version and install the 64 bit


"nospam" has been blocked for years

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:12:59 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/16/19 7:28 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote in


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

Check out https://www.freeoffice.com/en/ made and supported by a very
reliable German company. It's MSO compatible. I used it for a year and
then bought the pay version and have been using it for several years.



I personally use Linux and Libre Office but my wife is not going to use
anything other than MS Word

thank you though

My wife's the same way. It's Microsoft Office or nothing. Of course,
LibreOffice can't do as good of a job with spreadsheets as Microsoft
Office can and that has been demonstrated numerous times in
comp.os.linux.advocacy. Writer is good enough in my opinion, but even
it can't do something as basic as rotate images added into a document.
It seems like it's one of the first things they should have been able
to implement in LO.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:56:15 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/16/19 9:48 AM, silverslimer wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:11:48 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 7:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:13:40 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 4:51 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 5:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

Have not found a group for Word 2010

My wife is using MS Word 2010 on her Win10 machine with 16 gig of RAM


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

If I check the app while running it is using under 100 megs of memory.

All MS help answers are absurdly irrelevant to so solving this.

She is simply limiting how much she will cut and paste at a time but
this really seems ridiculous...as she is only trying to cut and paste
perhaps three or four pages .

Is what she's cutting and pasting from a web site? If so, it's
possible that there is a lot of hidden content within the text
included to ensure that nobody copies the content without
authorization.

That's why I set up my software of choice, LibreOffice, to paste as
plaintext no matter what the content is.




To give more info, she is not cutting and pasting from a website, the
document is about 200k in size and text only.

Though by taking a second between a cut and a paste has mostly solved
the problem , it is not completely solved.

She has it set to autosave every three minutes and and crash has been
saved to a .doc only readable from Google documents.

She has lost no work but it is a minor annoyance for her.

And the plug-in was not responsible for the crash? I was actually
hoping that it was due to an external factor.




The machine has 16 gigs of RAM and has never once crashed until she
added the plug-in.


That said, her workday is sometimes 12 hours long.

What she did today was save all... close down, then re-open every 2 or 3
hours.

No problems today since she has done that.

My guess is just too much stuff in the cache.

That wouldn't surprise me. Considering how slow Windows gets when a
user doesn't regularly clean the system disk with the Disk Cleanup
option, there's a strong possibility that you are correct.




One last thing :

MS Word is the 32 bit version.

The 64 bit version of MS Word might be a better choice but she seems to
be doing ok now

Microsoft deploys the 32-bit version by default even when you're on
their download page looking for the 64-bit one. I'm not sure why they
do that but they made it fairly difficult for me to get the 64-bit
version of Office 2013 when I wanted it. I imagine that the only
difference between the two, either way, is that the 64-bit can access
more than 4GB of memory but I'm likely wrong and looking forward to
nospam's rebuttal.




Guess I will uninstall the 32 bit version and install the 64 bit


"nospam" has been blocked for years

He seems fairly knowledgeable. Is there any reason you've blocked him?

silverslimer wrote:

Writer is good enough in my opinion, but even
it can't do something as basic as rotate images added into a document.

Eh?

Right click the image, rotate or flip, etc

or if you don't like 90 degree increments, Format, Image, properties,
Image, Rotation angle

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:58:18 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

silverslimer wrote:

Writer is good enough in my opinion, but even
it can't do something as basic as rotate images added into a document.

Eh?

Right click the image, rotate or flip, etc

or if you don't like 90 degree increments, Format, Image, properties,
Image, Rotation angle

Do you know if this is a recent addition or whether it has been there
all along? You can't imagine how much arguing's been going on in
comp.os.linux.advocacy over that.

Thanks for letting me know though.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:58:53 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 11:01 AM, Davidm wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

It's a 300 page book but the problem is evidently with the plug-in

I'm using Word 2000, so this may not apply, but I started with Word for DOS. But with Word for
Windows, it's always been the case that when working on a long, complex document, frequent
saves are a must to prevent Word crashes. If I'm doing something truly esoteric, I save after
each successful step! alt f s is your friend!

--
croy

silverslimer wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Right click the image, rotate or flip, etc
or if you don't like 90 degree increments, Format, Image, properties,
Image, Rotation angle

Do you know if this is a recent addition or whether it has been there
all along? You can't imagine how much arguing's been going on in
comp.os.linux.advocacy over that.

I don't think it's particularly recent, old versions are available for
anyone who wants to find out ...

http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/openoffice/archive/stable

features like doing contoured text wrapping around rotated objects is
more recent.

croy wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:58:53 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 11:01 AM, Davidm wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

It's a 300 page book but the problem is evidently with the plug-in

I'm using Word 2000, so this may not apply, but I started with Word for DOS. But with Word for
Windows, it's always been the case that when working on a long, complex document, frequent
saves are a must to prevent Word crashes. If I'm doing something truly esoteric, I save after
each successful step! alt f s is your friend!

Was there no control-s back then? Always, make back ups. I have had
saves go bad before.

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:36:34 -0800, croy
wrote:

I'm using Word 2000, so this may not apply, but I started with Word for DOS. But with Word for
Windows, it's always been the case that when working on a long, complex document, frequent
saves are a must to prevent Word crashes. If I'm doing something truly esoteric, I save after
each successful step! alt f s is your friend!



Word 2000, Word for DOS, or any other version of Word, you should
always do frequent saves. And that's true whether it's a long complex
document or not.

Saves do not prevent Word crashes. What they prevent is your being
hurt by a problem of almost any type: Word crashes, Windows crashes,
hardware failures, power failures, user errors, malware attacks, etc.

And the same is true for any other word processor, not just Word. Even
if it's not a word processor, but some other type of program, if you
put work into a file, you should frequently save what you've done.

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:


Saves do not prevent Word crashes. What they prevent is your being
hurt by a problem of almost any type: Word crashes, Windows crashes,
hardware failures, power failures, user errors, malware attacks, etc.

saves do not prevent damage caused by user error or malware attacks
because it will have saved the damage.

if you're having frequent hardware failures or power failures, then you
have a more serious problem to solve. fix the hardware and get a ups.

And the same is true for any other word processor, not just Word. Even
if it's not a word processor, but some other type of program, if you
put work into a file, you should frequently save what you've done.

there is a lot of software that is reliable, doesn't crash and doesn't
need frequent saves, as well as software that doesn't even offer the
option to save since it's done on a continual basis.

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:30:27 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:36:34 -0800, croy
wrote:

I'm using Word 2000, so this may not apply, but I started with Word for DOS. But with Word for
Windows, it's always been the case that when working on a long, complex document, frequent
saves are a must to prevent Word crashes. If I'm doing something truly esoteric, I save after
each successful step! alt f s is your friend!



Word 2000, Word for DOS, or any other version of Word, you should
always do frequent saves. And that's true whether it's a long complex
document or not.

Saves do not prevent Word crashes. What they prevent is your being
hurt by a problem of almost any type: Word crashes, Windows crashes,
hardware failures, power failures, user errors, malware attacks, etc.

And the same is true for any other word processor, not just Word. Even
if it's not a word processor, but some other type of program, if you
put work into a file, you should frequently save what you've done.

To be fair, Word saves automatically by default every five minutes.

On 1/16/19 11:33 AM, silverslimer wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:56:15 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/16/19 9:48 AM, silverslimer wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:11:48 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 7:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:13:40 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/15/19 4:51 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 09:01:02 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/14/19 5:28 PM, silverslimer wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:11:29 -0600, philo wrote:

Have not found a group for Word 2010

My wife is using MS Word 2010 on her Win10 machine with 16 gig of RAM


If she tries to cut and paste several pages of text she is getting an
"out of memory" error.

If I check the app while running it is using under 100 megs of memory.

All MS help answers are absurdly irrelevant to so solving this.

She is simply limiting how much she will cut and paste at a time but
this really seems ridiculous...as she is only trying to cut and paste
perhaps three or four pages .

Is what she's cutting and pasting from a web site? If so, it's
possible that there is a lot of hidden content within the text
included to ensure that nobody copies the content without
authorization.

That's why I set up my software of choice, LibreOffice, to paste as
plaintext no matter what the content is.




To give more info, she is not cutting and pasting from a website, the
document is about 200k in size and text only.

Though by taking a second between a cut and a paste has mostly solved
the problem , it is not completely solved.

She has it set to autosave every three minutes and and crash has been
saved to a .doc only readable from Google documents.

She has lost no work but it is a minor annoyance for her.

And the plug-in was not responsible for the crash? I was actually
hoping that it was due to an external factor.




The machine has 16 gigs of RAM and has never once crashed until she
added the plug-in.


That said, her workday is sometimes 12 hours long.

What she did today was save all... close down, then re-open every 2 or 3
hours.

No problems today since she has done that.

My guess is just too much stuff in the cache.

That wouldn't surprise me. Considering how slow Windows gets when a
user doesn't regularly clean the system disk with the Disk Cleanup
option, there's a strong possibility that you are correct.




One last thing :

MS Word is the 32 bit version.

The 64 bit version of MS Word might be a better choice but she seems to
be doing ok now

Microsoft deploys the 32-bit version by default even when you're on
their download page looking for the 64-bit one. I'm not sure why they
do that but they made it fairly difficult for me to get the 64-bit
version of Office 2013 when I wanted it. I imagine that the only
difference between the two, either way, is that the 64-bit can access
more than 4GB of memory but I'm likely wrong and looking forward to
nospam's rebuttal.




Guess I will uninstall the 32 bit version and install the 64 bit


"nospam" has been blocked for years

He seems fairly knowledgeable. Is there any reason you've blocked him?




On one of the other groups his answers are wrong 98% of the time