Windows Inkjets UK.

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

I don't want an All in One as I don't fax and have a good scanner, they
seem to be like rocking horse teeth.

Mike

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On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:06:40 +0000, Mike Swift
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?



I always recommend laser printers rather than inkjets. You might want
to read he

https://www.howtogeek.com/401749/sto...inter-instead/

or https://goo.gl/ocWiM6

In article , Ken Blake
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

buy genuine cartridges. problem solved.

I always recommend laser printers rather than inkjets.

bad advice.

laser printers are not always ideal or even desirable, especially for
photos, and there are many very good inkjet printers.

On 1/21/2019 11:06 AM, Mike Swift wrote:
Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

I don't want an All in One as I don't fax and have a good scanner, they
seem to be like rocking horse teeth.

Mike

I have an HP 5740 and been pleased with it. even using third party
vendor for the cartridges

I don't know how it is in the UK, but Good luck on finding a printer
without a scanner if you are in the US.

Even if you do, the cost of the scanner will probably cost more that the
cost of the all in one.

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In article , Wolf K
wrote:



There is no $$$ justification for building single-function machines.

of course there is.

A printer just prints. A copier scans in order to print. Add a USB port
and some firmware, and you can use a copier to print. Add more firmware
for the scanning and you have 3-in-1. A single driver will handle all 3
functions. So why make three separate machines?

because not everyone wants all three and adding the scanner mechanism
adds to its cost and complexity.

The reduction in
warehousing, inventory tracking, shipping, and invoicing costs more than
make up for any increased manufacturing costs.

except when people choose a competing product that doesn't include
stuff they don't want. then you're stuck with unsold inventory.

On 2019-01-21 14:00, Wolf K wrote:
On 2019-01-21 13:33, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/21/2019 11:06 AM, Mike Swift wrote:
Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for
Windows 10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

I don't want an All in One as I don't fax and have a good scanner,
they seem to be like rocking horse teeth.

Mike

I have an HP 5740 and been pleased with it.Â* even using third party
vendor for the cartridges

I don't know how it is in the UK, but Good luck on finding a printer
without a scanner if you are in the US.

Even if you do, the cost of the scanner will probably cost more that
the cost of the all in one.


There is no $$$ justification for building single-function machines.

Don't be ridiculous. The Epson Stylus and Brother HL series systems are
inkjet and laser, respectively, printers which are single-function
machines. HP has multiple LaserJet single-function grayscale and colour
lasers. Brother says that the HL-L6200DW is the 'top seller' for
small-group business printers. Brother and HP sell a _lot_ of
single-function grayscale laser printers for business. I personally have
a Brother HL-2070N. It's 15 years old and still works nicely, printing
text documents. I have an Epson all-in-one inkjet for scanning and
colour documents. We have multiple HP single-function grayscale lasers
at the office for small group printing, plus a few really big Canon
colour lasers for mass printing and copying. There is no need for small
group copiers, at least not in any business I've been to. There is a
major need for small-group printers.


A printer just prints. A copier scans in order to print. Add a USB port
and some firmware, and you can use a copier to print. AddÂ* more firmware
for the scanning and you have 3-in-1. A single driver will handle all 3
functions. So why make three separate machines? The reduction in
warehousing, inventory tracking, shipping, and invoicing costs more than
make up for any increased manufacturing costs.

We actually pay extra to have fast, reliable, high-quality, printing
which comes from single-function devices rather than low to mid-range
quality from a multifunction. High-quality multifunction devices exist,
of course, but they cost a lot. We want high-quality printing. We don't
need lots of scanners/copiers.

In article , FredW
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

buy genuine cartridges. problem solved.

expensive, expensive, expensive

not as expensive as having a printer that fails because you used ****
quality ink. go read about ink clogs due to third party inks.

the results also look better with genuine ink, especially with colour,
because the default colour profiles will be wrong for different inks.

and genuine cartridges are not that expensive. they also go on sale a
lot.

I always recommend laser printers rather than inkjets.

bad advice.

Good advice (practice proven).

it's bad advice. no printer is perfect for every situation.

recommending laser printers without knowing someone's actual needs is
not only bad advice, but does a disservice to them.

there are a lot of very good inkjet printers out there, which for many
people, is a *better* choice than laser.

laser printers are not always ideal or even desirable, especially for
photos, and there are many very good inkjet printers.

Read the part about photos in the article!

you mean the part where it says to use an outside service, thereby
confirming that laser printers are not suitable for photos, exactly as
i said?

Did you read the article at all or did you just jump to an opinion.

i read it and it's complete bull****.

it ends with this nonsense:
For the most part, your at-home printing will most likely consist of
just black-and-white documents. And even then, you probably don¹t
print that much, so a single toner cartridge can potentially last you
several years, whereas ink cartridges will eventually expire and dry
up on you. This makes laser printers a perfect option for a
residential setting

that's a whole lot of generalizations.

if someone doesn't print that much, they don't need a printer at all.
take it to a print shop, just as they suggest for the occasional photo.

also, toner cartridges do not last several years. they expire, just
like a lot of things.

In article , Wolf K
wrote:


We actually pay extra to have fast, reliable, high-quality, printing
which comes from single-function devices.

Of course, for specialised business and professional use that makes
perfect sense. However, OP complained he could find only 3-in-1s, which
suggests he wasn't looking in shops that cater to business/enterprise
clients.

no, it suggests he wasn't looking at all.

He also referred to a "reasonable price", which I saw as a clue
that he wanted a mass-market printer. His requirements weren't clear
enough to be sure about that, of course, but I thought it would be
useful to comment about why 3-in-1s are proliferating in what appeared
to be his price range. It may be he wants a business quality printer for
a mass-market price. Ain't gonna happen.

except that it does happen.

Adding scan and print capability to a copier does _not_ add "cost and
complexity."

of course it does.

adding a scanner mechanism and usually also a sheet feeder costs more
than it not being there.

For a small business or professional office that needs a
copier and has modest printing needs, a good 3-in-1 could make a lot
more sense than three separate machines.

and for those who don't need it, why pay for it?




FWIW, I think some people's opposition to colour laser printers is
misplaced. If you want to print nice pictures for family and friends, a
colour inkjet is likely the best choice for you, but if you want to
print brochures, flyers, and posters, a colour laser will do a more than
adequate job and at much lower cost than an inkjet.

nope. the cost depends on many factors. there are inkjets that cost
less to operate than lasers.

On 21/01/2019 23.02, FredW wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:22:13 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:06:40 +0000, Mike Swift
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

I always recommend laser printers rather than inkjets. You might want
to read he

https://www.howtogeek.com/401749/sto...inter-instead/

or https://goo.gl/ocWiM6

Me too.



I have a Brother laser printer for six years (95 euro in 2013).
I can confirm all points of the article.

I just ordered and received a toner cartridge (31 euro).
I do not print much so this will last one/two years.

Mine lasted something like ten years. It is nominally spent, but it is
still printing Ok.

My previous inkjet printer would dry out and need to be cleaned whenever
I needed it, unless used every two or three weeks. And often had to be
cleaned with alcohol, it was unable to fully clean itself, because some
jets were clogged. So whenever I needed to print something important it
needed working at it for an hour or two. And then the cartridges would
run out. And they were expensive. I learned to refill them, much
cheaper, but it would clog faster.

Come laser. Years and years it would just print instantly when needed,
with the same cartridge, till spent. Well, before it is fully spent it
smears a bit. So, print a page a month, it works. Print a book or two,
it works. It just works when I need it.

It turns out cheaper than ink in the long run.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


My previous inkjet printer would dry out and need to be cleaned whenever
I needed it, unless used every two or three weeks. And often had to be
cleaned with alcohol, it was unable to fully clean itself, because some
jets were clogged.

sounds like a low quality inkjet printer

don't assume all inkjets are like that. they definitely aren't.

So whenever I needed to print something important it
needed working at it for an hour or two. And then the cartridges would
run out. And they were expensive. I learned to refill them, much
cheaper, but it would clog faster.

no surprise there. why did you continue refilling them given that it
clogged faster?

Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 21/01/2019 23.02, FredW wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:22:13 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:06:40 +0000, Mike Swift
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

I always recommend laser printers rather than inkjets. You might want
to read he

https://www.howtogeek.com/401749/sto...inter-instead/

or https://goo.gl/ocWiM6

Me too.



I have a Brother laser printer for six years (95 euro in 2013).
I can confirm all points of the article.

I just ordered and received a toner cartridge (31 euro).
I do not print much so this will last one/two years.

Mine lasted something like ten years. It is nominally spent, but it is
still printing Ok.

My previous inkjet printer would dry out and need to be cleaned whenever
I needed it, unless used every two or three weeks. And often had to be
cleaned with alcohol, it was unable to fully clean itself, because some
jets were clogged. So whenever I needed to print something important it
needed working at it for an hour or two. And then the cartridges would
run out. And they were expensive. I learned to refill them, much
cheaper, but it would clog faster.

Come laser. Years and years it would just print instantly when needed,
with the same cartridge, till spent. Well, before it is fully spent it
smears a bit. So, print a page a month, it works. Print a book or two,
it works. It just works when I need it.

It turns out cheaper than ink in the long run.

That has been my experience, also.
I've had several color ink jets over the last few years and the
cartridges dry out unless used every few weeks. The majority of
my printing is B&W and I use the B&W laser for that.
I still have 2 ink jets for the occasional color prints but will
be getting a color laser soon and throw out the ink jets.

On 21/01/2019 23.49, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


My previous inkjet printer would dry out and need to be cleaned whenever
I needed it, unless used every two or three weeks. And often had to be
cleaned with alcohol, it was unable to fully clean itself, because some
jets were clogged.

sounds like a low quality inkjet printer

It wasn't. It was pretty expensive and good at the time.


don't assume all inkjets are like that. they definitely aren't.

So whenever I needed to print something important it
needed working at it for an hour or two. And then the cartridges would
run out. And they were expensive. I learned to refill them, much
cheaper, but it would clog faster.

no surprise there. why did you continue refilling them given that it
clogged faster?

Because doing otherwise was prohibitive.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 21/01/2019 23.42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 21/01/2019 23.02, FredW wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:22:13 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:06:40 +0000, Mike Swift
wrote:

Can anyone recommend a reasonably priced A4 Inkjet printer for Windows
10 that will not reject compatible cartridges?

I always recommend laser printers rather than inkjets. You might want
to read he

https://www.howtogeek.com/401749/sto...inter-instead/

or https://goo.gl/ocWiM6

Me too.

Ah, and they also print good photos. Maybe not excellent, but quite good :-p

--
Cheers, Carlos.

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

Ah, and they also print good photos. Maybe not excellent, but quite good :-p

photos on a laser printer do not have anywhere near the colour gamut of
an inkjet printer nor can a laser printer be properly calibrated so
that the colours are even accurate.

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

My previous inkjet printer would dry out and need to be cleaned whenever
I needed it, unless used every two or three weeks. And often had to be
cleaned with alcohol, it was unable to fully clean itself, because some
jets were clogged.

sounds like a low quality inkjet printer

It wasn't. It was pretty expensive and good at the time.

i didn't say anything about its price.

anything that clogs that often is low quality. some would say junk.

what is likely is that the clogs were caused by refilled cartridges,
likely with questionable quality ink, causing all sorts of problems
(not just clogging) to what was otherwise a decent printer.

i've been using inkjet printers for more than 20 years and have had a
total of maybe 2 or 3 clogs in that time, easily fixed with a cleaning
cycle, and i don't use it that regularly either. the heads park when
not in use so that it doesn't clog.

long ago, epson printers did have an issue with clogging, but that's a
thing of the past. modern epsons rarely clog, if ever at least with
genuine ink. with low quality ink, anything goes.

another problem is turning the printer on/off via its own power button
versus power strip. using the printer's power button causes the printer
to properly park the heads on the waste pad. using a power strip (or
any external on/off control) will skip that step, leading to a head
clog.

don't assume all inkjets are like that. they definitely aren't.

So whenever I needed to print something important it
needed working at it for an hour or two. And then the cartridges would
run out. And they were expensive. I learned to refill them, much
cheaper, but it would clog faster.

no surprise there. why did you continue refilling them given that it
clogged faster?

Because doing otherwise was prohibitive.

no reason why would would be, but the point is that your clogs were
self-inflicted.