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The Product Key used to install Windows is invalid ....
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] had this to say: Top posted for a change... Thank you. Curious what a search shows up for the number... All sorts of odd things out there. I wonder how people will think keys will go unblacklisted if they make them that easy to find. Ah well... Galen Galen; That OP has one of the most common if not the most common pirated key. I have seen it so many times on forums, newsgroups etc, that I recognize it. Try a Google search on that key. The web site I gave has this link at the top: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904 The Product ID given by the OP is the top ID listed on that page. The list of invalid Product IDs is not a complete list, just the most common IDs. "Galen" wrote in message ... Where did you manage to find that this was a pirated key? I'm curious because I'd like to be able to keep something like that in mind. I took a look at the link you gave but your site didn't contain any information on how you knew it to be pirated. I'm just too curious I suppose... While I'm posting off-topic - I'll respond to the rant. I've seen cracks for the free version of mIRC, XNView, and even a key was floating around for Kelly's Tasbbar Repair Kit which is pretty inexpensive at something like $5 USD if I recall. Crackers crack for the sake of defeating the methods. Users use them to steal the application. Price is not a factor. If such a statement were true than the thieves would go after big targets all the time and yet the most commonly stolen items (at the one lone department store where I worked for a whole 3 weeks and using only their statistics so it's perhaps skewed data) are very inexpensive items and the most common loss is due to employee theft. I'd wager that the statistics are similar for software as you don't generally see people pirating something like an ERP system. -- Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE) http://dts-l.org/ "My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplaces of existence." - Sherlock Holmes -- Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE) http://dts-l.org/ "My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplaces of existence." - Sherlock Holmes |
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The Product Key used to install Windows is invalid ....
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:39:44 -0500, "Galen" wrote: In , Jupiter Jones [MVP] had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: Normally I suggest not posting Product Keys publicly unless you are in the habit of passing $100.00 bills to strangers as they pass by. But in this case you have posted a well known pirate key. You need to buy a legitimate Windows XP Pro and perform a Repair Installation if you want to keep your current configuration: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/invalpk.htm Off Topic... Where did you manage to find that this was a pirated key? I'm curious because I'd like to be able to keep something like that in mind. I took a look at the link you gave but your site didn't contain any information on how you knew it to be pirated. I'm just too curious I suppose... While I'm posting off-topic - I'll respond to the rant. I've seen cracks for the free version of mIRC, XNView, and even a key was floating around for Kelly's Tasbbar Repair Kit which is pretty inexpensive at something like $5 USD if I recall. Crackers crack for the sake of defeating the methods. Users use them to steal the application. Price is not a factor. If such a statement were true than the thieves would go after big targets all the time and yet the most commonly stolen items (at the one lone department store where I worked for a whole 3 weeks and using only their statistics so it's perhaps skewed data) are very inexpensive items and the most common loss is due to employee theft. I'd wager that the statistics are similar for software as you don't generally see people pirating something like an ERP system. OK, let me state up front, I do NOT support piracy or theft. BUT I really want someone to explain the following. How can a company like microsoft be so alarmed and upset with piracy when they have nearly $100 Billion in assets and cash on hand? Also MSFT continues to make more and more and more money year after year even with all this Piracy going on? Did I miss something? Also. Car alarms are for keeping cars from being stolen. Yet, cars get stolen anyway, even when people install $1,000 systems. I also know that if you have full coverage car insurance that the company will simply write you a check for the stolen car. So why spend $1,000 on an alarm when a common car theif can steal it? If you say it's for a premium deduction I wonder just how much you think you saved? $1,000 wll not return too soon when your discounted premium difference is $25 per month. Yes theft is VERY WRONG. But why do we place priority on protecting $100 Billion corporations from losing money over some guy who owns a corner drug store and has a 3% profit margin? Just wondering. And btw, every time you catch the piracy or method of transmitting pirated software, some 12 yr old kid in his closet will code something new and better than before. Then stop that one, and here is another 12 yr old with new program code. and so on. Again, I do not and have never supported piracy or theft. NEVER! Did you miss something? Perhaps the part about theft? Stealing is stealing - regardless of the assets controlled by a company. IDC estimated that in 2004 90 billion US Dollars worth of pirated software was installed - in that year alone. In the study - which included 87 countries, over half of them had at least 60% of their software installed illegally. I don't know about you but it's my opinion that $90,000,000,000 USD is a lot of money regardless of the assets owned. I'm not sure where you see a priority being places on software piracy. You're in a newsgroup, on a computer, with the topic being computers. The likelihood of the conversation being about theft and that theft being specific to software, hardware, or other computer related crimes is pretty high, certainly much higher than seeing a conversation about thefts from a corner drug store. I don't know if there is such a thing but maybe there's an alt.corner.drugstore where you'd find that topic for a thread? I do agree with the statement about the 12 year old. Sort of. However switch the crime around. Every time you take a drug pusher off the streets another one will replace them. And so on, and so on, and so on... Crime, simply puts, needs to have efforts taken to prevent it and to prosecute it in order to maintain a lawful society. While it's true that another criminal will hop up to take the place of any who are removed from the scene that isn't justification (in my opinion at any rate) for apathy regarding the crime or the victims. I can agree that to think of Microsoft as a victim is pretty tough. Maybe to think of the humanitarian losses that this results in might help? I don't have percentages or exact numbers but I'm willing to bet you can find a good deal of the information specifics with a search engine. The gifting to humanitarian efforts on behalf of the company and the philanthropic efforts by not just this one company but any other large software corporation would certainly be larger if they had more assets with which to make those donations. Even if it was only 1% of that 90 billion USD that went to humanitarian relief funds, research for cures, grants for education, etc that's still a rather huge loss to the global community because of someone "needing" to use a piece of software and being unwilling to pay for it. I spend a great deal of money on software, the code I buy access to is often something I can do without but rather I pay to support the developers. The vast majority of what I buy is available either in the same version pretty much for free or can be found freely distributed from another vendor. To cite the price as a legitimate reason or the value of the company as being pertinent or justifying the crime is not very logical to me. It seems likely to me that with the additional assets that are lost to piracy the prices would be lower and no one who has a "need" for (specific example) Windows XP is unable to afford it. At worst they might have to sacrifice something else from their life for a short time to pay for it - that's called budgeting and being a responsible consumer - but if they truly need the software than they certainly can afford to pay for it. Please note that the above is much my own personal opinion and by no means represents my views on the licensing which, in my opinion, could be revamped. -- Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE) http://dts-l.org/ "My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplaces of existence." - Sherlock Holmes |
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mykeytosuccess wrote:
XP Pro User / Microst Update site will allow any updates except for SP2. When I attemp to update to SP2 I get the error message: The Product Key used to install Windows is invalid ..... I have run Belarc Advisor and it does list the Product Key as follows: Microsoft - Windows XP Professional 55274-640-0000356-23040 (Key: FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8) That's one of the well-known, pirated copies of a WinXP Pro Volume License. It was locked out of the update process years ago. Does anyone know how I can overcome this problem please. Any help would me much appreciated !!!! If you are trying to install a WinXP Service Pack and getting the following: The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q326904 You need to purchase and a _legitimate_ retail or OEM full license of WinXP Pro to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, using the new CDs and Product Keys. How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 You should also report whomever sold you this license to your local law enforcement agencies; you've been defrauded. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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Galen wrote:
My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: Just curious, but why do you always preface each post with the above? Off Topic... Not really, you're just asking for clarification and information. Where did you manage to find that this was a pirated key? I'm curious because I'd like to be able to keep something like that in mind. I took a look at the link you gave but your site didn't contain any information on how you knew it to be pirated. I'm just too curious I suppose... You receive a "The product key used to install Windows is invalid" error message http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q326904 -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III wrote:
On 18 Dec 2005 02:22:12 -0800, wrote: Interesting...you can come to this group and speak intelligently and at the same time spew rasict, sexist garbage in the other groups. Way to go Theodore Baldwin Boothe III. Man you're a hacker aren't you? I bet you hack cia systems all the time too? When was it you discovered the groups search function on google? Also, when did you decided what I post on other newsgroups has anything to do with what I post here? Also, have I said anything in THIS NG that is offensive ??? Also, why don't you simply join into the discussion rather than attack the people in the discussions? I have all the proof I need about people here, and you made it VERY clear to me now. This may help: www.bsa.org BTW: software piracy is an international crime. Not reporting it is an easy way to support international criminals |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III wrote:
You've got 90% of the PC home market so why charge $100 [$200 in my case] for an OS? Because you have 90% of the market? Without competition you can charge what you want. |
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On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:31:35 +1100, "TaurArian [MS-MVP]"
wrote: Please do not post product keys on the Newsgroup. Error Message: The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=326904 The key he posted can do no one any good. That is the one so called "from the devil himself". -- "Politicians are like diapers. They should both be changed frequently and for the same reason." |
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Bruce Chambers wrote:
mykeytosuccess wrote: XP Pro User / Microst Update site will allow any updates except for SP2. When I attemp to update to SP2 I get the error message: The Product Key used to install Windows is invalid ..... I have run Belarc Advisor and it does list the Product Key as follows: Microsoft - Windows XP Professional 55274-640-0000356-23040 (Key: FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8) That's one of the well-known, pirated copies of a WinXP Pro Volume License. It was locked out of the update process years ago. Does anyone know how I can overcome this problem please. Any help would me much appreciated !!!! If you are trying to install a WinXP Service Pack and getting the following: The Product Key Used to Install Windows Is Invalid http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q326904 You need to purchase and a _legitimate_ retail or OEM full license of WinXP Pro to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, using the new CDs and Product Keys. How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 You should also report whomever sold you this license to your local law enforcement agencies; you've been defrauded. One thing that drives me crazy is the way Microsoft connects the Windows OEM key to the BIOS of the Motherboard. Example when I bought my Dell it came with XP home. I paid extra for XP Pro. Now if I buy a new motherboard I have to buy a new version of XP. I paid the same price anyone else pays for XP why should I have to pay twice? Or am I wrong with my thought? |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:50:28 -0500, DrJoel
wrote: One thing that drives me crazy is the way Microsoft connects the Windows OEM key to the BIOS of the Motherboard. Example when I bought my Dell it came with XP home. I paid extra for XP Pro. Now if I buy a new motherboard I have to buy a new version of XP. I paid the same price anyone else pays for XP why should I have to pay twice? Or am I wrong with my thought? No you're correct in your thinking. But some people will defend corporations right to rape consumers to the death! |
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Bruce Chambers had this to say: My reply is at the tossed in and among and after your sent message: Galen wrote: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: Just curious, but why do you always preface each post with the above? I always do because too many people can't seem to make up their mind if top-posting or bottom-posting is the accepted method. I follow older habits and bottom post (sometimes - oh my - I even snip!) and to avoid complaints or confusion I have the line automatically inserted. There's times, like this one, where I'll intersperse the reply and I'll edit it. Other times - if it's plainly visible, I may even cut it out but it's automatically placed there using OEQuoteFix. Ironically enough - it's actually cut down the troll attacks. I've been using similar or the same line for quite some time now. I think, maybe, '03 or so is when I first picked up on it after being told a number of times (regardless of where I put the reply) that it was in the wrong spot. Now, once in a while someone will tell me it's in the wrong spot but at least they can't say they didn't know where to find it. Off Topic... Not really, you're just asking for clarification and information. Yeah, good point. I figured I'd mark it OT as, well, someone's bound to be sure that it is. Adding the OT to it makes it less important and lets the OP know (hopefully) that there's nothing important to see there. g Where did you manage to find that this was a pirated key? I'm curious because I'd like to be able to keep something like that in mind. I took a look at the link you gave but your site didn't contain any information on how you knew it to be pirated. I'm just too curious I suppose... You receive a "The product key used to install Windows is invalid" error message http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q326904 I was hoping that there was some sort of master list somewhere. I hadn't taken too many trips to the dark side of the 'net in a long time and I was actually amazed at the sheer number of available pirated versions of software there are now. They used to actually have to work a little bit to get ahold of this stuff but now they have link rings, top sites, ad sponsoring, and a myriad of choices available. A list of blacklisted serials might be an interesting thing to see. I do note that they've listed, on the site given, blacklisted PIDs but not the actual serials. I do not know the algorithm used so I'm guessing that a number of keys would result in PIDs in those ranges. In my travels I did see a site that was actually delving into the PID generation and that was a bit above my level of comprehension and devotion to the subject. Ah well... I wonder how many people pirate software and then complain about it? -- Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE) http://dts-l.org/ "My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplaces of existence." - Sherlock Holmes |
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Theodore Baldwin Boothe III wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:50:28 -0500, DrJoel wrote: One thing that drives me crazy is the way Microsoft connects the Windows OEM key to the BIOS of the Motherboard. Example when I bought my Dell it came with XP home. I paid extra for XP Pro. Now if I buy a new motherboard I have to buy a new version of XP. I paid the same price anyone else pays for XP why should I have to pay twice? Or am I wrong with my thought? No you're correct in your thinking. But some people will defend corporations right to rape consumers to the death! Corporations can do whatever is legal. It's up to consumers to complain and even boycott corporations that do things they don't like. If everyone quit buying on price and actually bought on features the practise would go away. Kerry |
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You are wrong.
Microsoft does not connect the Product Key to the Motherboard. The OEM, in your case Dell made the connection. That is one of several choices computer manufacturers have. Another of the many choices is to provide a retail OS, but that would greatly increase the cost for them and thus to the customer. The ability to freely transfer retail Windows XP to another computer is only one of the many reasons you paid less for your OEM. If you like such a system, buy another computer similarly configured next time. If not, buy a computer configured the way you want from a competitor. Do not forget to mail Dell and explain exactly why they lost your business. As long as many continue to buy computers configured like this, the computer manufacturers will continue to choose this less expensive path for their customers -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org "DrJoel" wrote in message ... One thing that drives me crazy is the way Microsoft connects the Windows OEM key to the BIOS of the Motherboard. Example when I bought my Dell it came with XP home. I paid extra for XP Pro. Now if I buy a new motherboard I have to buy a new version of XP. I paid the same price anyone else pays for XP why should I have to pay twice? Or am I wrong with my thought? |
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He is incorrect.
Dell made the choice of several options provided by Microsoft. Dell chose the cheaper option since they feel their customers priority is price. Hopefully you voice your opinion with your wallet as well as here. If all you do is post your opinion here its value is lost since Dell will probably never see it. There are plenty of options available for consumers wanting a different option. Also see my previous post. -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar http://www.dts-l.org "Theodore Baldwin Boothe III" wrote in message ... No you're correct in your thinking. But some people will defend corporations right to rape consumers to the death! |
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
You are wrong. Microsoft does not connect the Product Key to the Motherboard. The OEM, in your case Dell made the connection. That is one of several choices computer manufacturers have. Another of the many choices is to provide a retail OS, but that would greatly increase the cost for them and thus to the customer. The ability to freely transfer retail Windows XP to another computer is only one of the many reasons you paid less for your OEM. If you like such a system, buy another computer similarly configured next time. If not, buy a computer configured the way you want from a competitor. Do not forget to mail Dell and explain exactly why they lost your business. As long as many continue to buy computers configured like this, the computer manufacturers will continue to choose this less expensive path for their customers The horrible thing about it Dell charged me the same as retail for the move to XP Pro. The machine was XP home, and during the order process I upgraded to Pro. When my new system is ready I will go through the steps with Microsoft. |
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