Update your software now!

On 17/06/2019 22:42, Paul wrote:
David B. wrote:
On 17/06/2019 21:40, Mike Easter wrote:
David B. wrote:
Will you do so?

I'll leave such meddlesome activity up to those who like to meddle.
And pry and snoop.

It's best that Americans report problems with American government
issues so I'll leave well alone.

Are there any more of the unanswered questions I've asked you recently
which you'd be willing to revisit?

(Follow-up set to 'my' group).

David, if you know how the system works, you
wouldn't need to make this suggestion.

The company reporting the CVE, creates the content. The
officiating body, does not "rewrite someone elses submission",
because that would be cheeky. The submitter controls the
information flow.

You'll only be told to take up your complaint
in this case, with the writer at Microsoft who
prepared the materials.

Microsoft wanted us to "bob for apples", and bob
for apples we must. Complaining will get you "squat".

Â*Â* Paul

I must bow to your greater experience, Paul.

The 'feedback' form is addressed to your government. I didn't appreciate
that Microsoft was running your President Trump too! ;-)

--
David B.

On 17/06/2019 22:47, Paul wrote:
David B. wrote:
On 17/06/2019 21:54, Mayayana wrote:
"Mike Easter" wrote

| The XP kb # is in the 2nd column of the table at that link, 4500331.
|

Â* For that one there's a better way:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/...2da0421188.exe


Cut out the middleman.

Win7-64:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...75e49b58cb.msu


Thanks, Mayayana.

Had you already actioned matters or was my post actually helpful to you?


I previously acquired the materials and tagged them
for future consumption. Acquired 05/31/2019 or so.

Â*Â* TerminalServicesRDPnoAuth-WORM

windows6.1-kb4499175-x64_3704acfff45ddf163d8049683d5a3b75e49b58cb.msu

windows6.1-kb4499175-x86_6f1319c32d5bc4caf2058ae8ff40789ab10bf41b.msu

windowsxp-kb4500331-x86-custom-enu_d7206aca53552fececf72a3dee93eb2da0421188.exe


windowsxp-kb4500331-x86-custom-enu_d7206aca53552fececf72a3dee93eb2da0421188__RDP_ patch.exe


For a WinXP user, the SMBV1 would be like this. 05/31/2017


windowsxp-kb4012598-x86-custom-enu_eceb7d5023bbb23c0dc633e46b9c2f14fa6ee9dd__SMBv 1.exe


Â* Paul

You do a marvelous job, Paul. :-)

Thank you, on behalf of ALL the people you help.

Please forgive me if I'm not always current - I spend far more time with
my Apple iMac, especially since I upgraded to a new 27 inch one with
Retina display.

--
David B.
Devon, UK

In message , Apd writes:
"David B." wrote:
On 17/06/2019 12:30, Apd wrote:
People are also using XP because they don't need or don't like later
Microsoft OSes.

I don't think that's true. Even I use XP sometimes - because I can, but
I much prefer to use my pristine Apple iMac! ;-)

It is true. I use it in preference to Win7 which I have on a laptop. I
have a few machines running XP and one is an iMac (2006). XP supports
a more recent version of Firefox than the Mac OS of that time will.

Old cars don't have vulnerabilities. Any design faults they may have
will be well-known and will have fixes or work-arounds.

Not so much nowadays, but the major killer of cars during my lifetime
has been *rust*! Think Vauxhall Victor, Lancia Fulvia or any Subaru

Yes, also Ford Zodiacs and such. My current car is from 2002 (same age
as XP) and is what I consider modern. There's no sign of rust on the
bodywork and it still passes MOTs without trouble and runs well.

Me too (last was my Å*koda Felicia - I was sorry to see that go; its
last tankful [of Diesel] gave me 62 mpg, but they told me it had too
much rust to be worth keeping [I've got lots of spare parts for a
Felicia - free to a good home; if anyone else here's interested, email
me!). UK cars of the vintage of the Victor were all prone, especially
Vauxhalls (I had a Ventora). But we're in UK; remember some of the
readers of this thread are in very dry states in America.

Old OSs don't have things that wear out with use (or non-use).

JPG
--


Three- (or four-) way referendum, if we _have_ to have another one.

(Where has the "treat northern Ireland differently" option gone?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Today you wonder if the media has become the opposition - it's become the
political classes against 24-hour media.
Jon Culshaw [voice impressionist], in RT 2015/4/11-17

David B. wrote:
On 17/06/2019 22:47, Paul wrote:
David B. wrote:
On 17/06/2019 21:54, Mayayana wrote:
"Mike Easter" wrote

| The XP kb # is in the 2nd column of the table at that link, 4500331.
|

For that one there's a better way:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/...2da0421188.exe


Cut out the middleman.

Win7-64:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/...75e49b58cb.msu


Thanks, Mayayana.

Had you already actioned matters or was my post actually helpful to you?


I previously acquired the materials and tagged them
for future consumption. Acquired 05/31/2019 or so.

TerminalServicesRDPnoAuth-WORM

windows6.1-kb4499175-x64_3704acfff45ddf163d8049683d5a3b75e49b58cb.msu

windows6.1-kb4499175-x86_6f1319c32d5bc4caf2058ae8ff40789ab10bf41b.msu

windowsxp-kb4500331-x86-custom-enu_d7206aca53552fececf72a3dee93eb2da0421188.exe


windowsxp-kb4500331-x86-custom-enu_d7206aca53552fececf72a3dee93eb2da0421188__RDP_ patch.exe


For a WinXP user, the SMBV1 would be like this. 05/31/2017


windowsxp-kb4012598-x86-custom-enu_eceb7d5023bbb23c0dc633e46b9c2f14fa6ee9dd__SMBv 1.exe


Paul

You do a marvelous job, Paul. :-)

Thank you, on behalf of ALL the people you help.

Please forgive me if I'm not always current - I spend far more time with
my Apple iMac, especially since I upgraded to a new 27 inch one with
Retina display.


I only collect the ones with the "great descriptions of doom and gloom" :-)

"The sky is falling".

"Duck, duck and cover."

Paul

"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in 2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or nearly new car!

What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

No.

You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection

And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On 18/06/2019 19:03, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in 2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or nearly new car!

What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

No.

You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection

And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

--
David B.
Devon, UK

On 18/06/2019 19:50, David B. wrote:
On 18/06/2019 19:03, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich
enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in
2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that
age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or
nearly new car!

Â*Â*Â*Â*What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

Â*Â*Â*Â*No.

Â*Â*Â*Â*You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection


Â*Â*Â*Â*And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify: From: pyotr filipivich

Viz: www.mindspring.com

--
David B.
Devon, UK

David B. wrote:
On 18/06/2019 19:03, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich
enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in
2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that
age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or
nearly new car!

What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

No.

You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection


And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

It's a scan by an uneven collection of tools.

CRDF Malicious

Who exactly is "CRDF" ???

The participants in that page, are rather a rag-tag lot.

Perhaps for CRDF, their detection code goes something like
this.

BEGIN
if ("www.") then printf("Malicious\n");
END

Which is a good zeroth order approximation.

And, the code is easy to maintain.

(This is a bit of an inside joke, because at work, we had
a guy who would say "I could code that up in three lines",
so for joke-purposes, you had to make sure joke-code had
exactly three lines.)

Paul

"David B." on Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:11:18
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 18/06/2019 19:50, David B. wrote:
On 18/06/2019 19:03, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general* the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general* the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general* the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich
enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in
2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that
age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or
nearly new car!

****What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

****No.

****You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection


****And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify: From: pyotr filipivich

Viz: www.mindspring.com

So earthlink is tagged by your software.

Not a good look for it.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

On 19/06/2019 05:38, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:11:18
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 18/06/2019 19:50, David B. wrote:
On 18/06/2019 19:03, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:02:13
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:
On 17/06/2019 18:41, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Mon, 17 Jun 2019 10:30:43
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:
On 17/06/2019 02:35, pyotr filipivich wrote:
"David B." on Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:58:15
+0100 typed in alt.windows7.generalÂ* the following:

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich
enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

IIRC, I started using Windows XP when it was first introduced in
2002 -
it really is 'old hat' now! If you drove a motor vehicle of that
age you
might well expect it to suffer more breakdowns than a new or
nearly new car!

Â*Â*Â*Â*What is in a Operating System comparable to the mechanical items
in an automobile, which can wear out?

Will 'vulnerabilities' suffice?

Â*Â*Â*Â*No.

Â*Â*Â*Â*You were saying that an OS wears as it runs, and eventually fails
due to something wearing out.

Well, FWIW, there's something not quite right about this:-

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/8...3427/detection


Â*Â*Â*Â*And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify: From: pyotr filipivich

Viz: www.mindspring.com

So earthlink is tagged by your software.

My understanding is that MindSpring was purchased by Earthlink, long
ago. That indicates to me that you are no spring chicken!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MindSpring

Not a good look for it.

I don't understand. Some folk might determine that English isn't your
first language. Are you Bulgarian by any chance? If so, I suspect you
are an immigrant to the USA as you are using a USA ISP to post!

http://www.giganews.com

*Your Internet connection has no Reverse DNS*!

Many Internet connection IP addresses are associated with a DNS machine
name. (But yours is not.) The presence of "Reverse DNS", which allows
the machine name to be retrieved from the IP address, can represent a
privacy and possible security concern for Internet consumers since it
may uniquely and persistently identify your Internet account — and
therefore you — and may disclose other information, such as your
geographic location.

When present, reverse DNS is supported by Internet service providers.
But no such lookups are possible with your current Internet connection
address (50.34.168.207). That's generally a good thing. :-)

Ref: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

HTH

--
David B.
Devon, UK

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:38:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

****And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify: From:

Viz: www.mindspring.com

So earthlink is tagged by your software.

Not a good look for it.

Expect personal questions soon (where you live, name of
business/employee record, name of spouse etc). Really weird in an OS
group, but it's what he does.

He claims this webpage contains malware (he used VT to scan
the SERVER and it got one hit - no, he hasn't mastered the intricacies
of false positives yet)

https://web.archive.org/web/20190603181837/http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

I've been through the source. Can't find any malware .....
maybe I'm using the wrong tools?
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On 19/06/2019 12:43, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:38:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify: From:

Viz: www.mindspring.com

So earthlink is tagged by your software.

Not a good look for it.

Expect personal questions soon (where you live, name of
business/employee record, name of spouse etc). Really weird in an OS
group, but it's what he does.

You are a liar, Shadow.

He claims this webpage contains malware (he used VT to scan
the SERVER and it got one hit - no, he hasn't mastered the intricacies
of false positives yet)

http://www.tekrider.net ----- Used for malicious purposes

This image tells a different story https://i.imgur.com/yMfGx0v.png

I've been through the source. Can't find any malware .....
maybe I'm using the wrong tools?
[]'s

Yes - you didn't look carefully enough: https://i.imgur.com/aBgpvlO.png

--
~!~

Paul said ...
I also have a couple of XP-era machines with fairly low resources,Â* One
of them is a Dell laptop I inherited from a friend when he got a newer
laptop.Â* It has a 2006 BIOS, a 600 MHz 32bit Pentium M cpu, 1 G ram,
ancient IBM graphics.Â* I don't use its XP installation to go online, but
I still use XP for 'stuff'.Â* Its previous 'operational' OS was a linux
Mint 17.3 XFCE for online activity.Â* When that support ran out, I moved
on to MX linux, now at 18.3 which is also XFCE DE.Â* It also runs fine
and securely.

The other one is a Compaq desktop also 2006 BIOS which is stronger, w/
2G ram, 64bit AMD at 1000 MHz, NVidia gfx.Â* Its browser is an 'expired'
Chrome 49.0; but I don't use that to 'surf' but only to access a
specific site.

I guess my point in an XP group, not a linux one, is that we should use
our old hardware 'very carefully' and linux is a useful solution, but
old Win OSes have a place.

I also have a Vista-era laptop w/ 2008 bios, 2G w/ 64bit 800 MHz AMD
cpu.Â* It can run lean v of Win7 and of course various linux.

I agree with you. :-)

*Important - Firefox has ended support for Windows XP and Vista*


Firefox version 52.9.0esr was the last supported release for Windows XP
and Windows Vista. No further security updates will be provided for
those systems.

Why has Firefox ended support for Windows XP and Vista users?

Firefox was one of the last browsers to offer any support for Windows XP
and Vista. Microsoft itself ended support for Windows XP in 2014 and
support for Windows Vista in 2017. Unsupported operating systems receive
no security updates, have known exploits, and can be dangerous to use,
which makes it difficult to maintain Firefox on those versions.

Will switching to a different browser keep me protected?

Unfortunately not. Most browsers (such as Google Chrome and Microsoft
Internet Explorer) have already ended support for Windows XP and Windows
Vista.

Can I still browse safely with Firefox on Windows XP and Vista?

Unfortunately not. At this point support for version 52 of the Firefox
Extended Support Release (ESR) has ended. Unsupported browsers receive
no security updates, have known exploits, and can be dangerous to use.

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Upgrade to a Windows version that Microsoft still supports, such as
Windows 7, 8 or 10.

Learn more here. Windows versions that are not supported by Microsoft
are unreliable and unsafe to use, which also makes it difficult to
maintain Firefox on those versions.

(Advanced): Switch to a Linux-based operating system. Please see
the support websites for the version of Linux that you're interested in.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...s-xp-and-vista

--
David B.
Devon, UK

On 19/06/2019 14:03, David B. wrote:
Paul said ...

*Oops! *Mike* said this, not Paul! Sorry.

I guess my point in an XP group, not a linux one, is that we should
use our old hardware 'very carefully' and linux is a useful solution,
but old Win OSes have a place.

I agree with you. :-)

*Important - Firefox has ended support for Windows XP and Vista*


Firefox version 52.9.0esr was the last supported release for Windows XP
and Windows Vista. No further security updates will be provided for
those systems.

Why has Firefox ended support for Windows XP and Vista users?

Firefox was one of the last browsers to offer any support for Windows XP
and Vista. Microsoft itself ended support for Windows XP in 2014 and
support for Windows Vista in 2017. Unsupported operating systems receive
no security updates, have known exploits, and can be dangerous to use,
which makes it difficult to maintain Firefox on those versions.

Will switching to a different browser keep me protected?

Unfortunately not. Most browsers (such as Google Chrome and Microsoft
Internet Explorer) have already ended support for Windows XP and Windows
Vista.

Can I still browse safely with Firefox on Windows XP and Vista?

Unfortunately not. At this point support for version 52 of the Firefox
Extended Support Release (ESR) has ended. Unsupported browsers receive
no security updates, have known exploits, and can be dangerous to use.

How can I get the newest features of Firefox?

If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest
features and updates, you'll need to upgrade your computer's operating
system.

Â*Â*Â* Upgrade to a Windows version that Microsoft still supports, such as
Windows 7, 8 or 10.

Learn more here. Windows versions that are not supported by Microsoft
are unreliable and unsafe to use, which also makes it difficult to
maintain Firefox on those versions.

Â*Â*Â* (Advanced): Switch to a Linux-based operating system. Please see
the support websites for the version of Linux that you're interested in.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb...s-xp-and-vista

HTH

--
David B.
Devon, UK

On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:32:05 +0100, Christine Grist
wrote:

On 19/06/2019 12:43, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:38:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

And in twenty five words or less, could you explain what that is
when it is at home?

It's a scan by Virus Total of the website I saw mentioned in your
message header.

To clarify: From:

Viz: www.mindspring.com

So earthlink is tagged by your software.

Not a good look for it.

Expect personal questions soon (where you live, name of
business/employee record, name of spouse etc). Really weird in an OS
group, but it's what he does.

You are a liar, Shadow.

He claims this webpage contains malware (he used VT to scan
the SERVER and it got one hit - no, he hasn't mastered the intricacies
of false positives yet)

https://web.archive.org/web/20190603181837/http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php ----- Used for malicious purposes

I'm sorry. I couldn't find ANY malware there.

This image tells a different story CUT_STALKING

I've been through the source. Can't find any malware .....
maybe I'm using the wrong tools?
[]'s

Yes - you didn't look carefully enough: CUT_STALKING

And in twenty five words or less, could you explain

Please post WORDS, not malicious links. Just post the CODE you
consider to be malware in the link above. Not the whole webpage, or
images of unreliable scan results. Just the code.
TIA

Looks like he forgot to change his headers AGAIN !!!!
Alcohol rots the brain.
43 #FAKE_NYMS and counting.
[]'s


--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012