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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the
Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. -- W |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote:
While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. |
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On 12 Feb 2014, "W" wrote in
alt.windows7.general: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. What appears to be a folder called "Documents and Settings" is really just a dummy entry for backwards compatibility purposes. It has no practical use for use for you and can be ignored. You're only seeing it because you've chosen to show hidden files and folders. What used to be found in Documents and Settings is now found in the folder called \Users. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. |
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"BobbyM" wrote in message
... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. Ah, thanks! Curious that they don't just make Documents & Settings a hard link to the new folder. -- W |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
W wrote:
"BobbyM" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. Ah, thanks! Curious that they don't just make Documents & Settings a hard link to the new folder. It's a 'junction' for o/s backward compatibility not user compatibility - i.e. no reason to access it since it doesn't contain anything -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
"...winston?" wrote in message
... W wrote: "BobbyM" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. Ah, thanks! Curious that they don't just make Documents & Settings a hard link to the new folder. It's a 'junction' for o/s backward compatibility not user compatibility - i.e. no reason to access it since it doesn't contain anything Had they made it a hard link to Users, you could have just double clicked it and entered into the Users folder automatically. Might have been a nicer user experience. -- W |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
"BobbyM" wrote in message
... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. I'm having what may be a related issue. Logged into Explorer as the administrative user, I am unable to access: c:\users\all users\start menu I want to change the icon on a program on the start menu for a program that all users access. When I go to above location I get an "Access is Denied". Again, I could hack my way past that, but I want to understand the architecture and do things the right way. -- W |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
On 2/12/2014, W posted:
"BobbyM" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. I'm having what may be a related issue. Logged into Explorer as the administrative user, I am unable to access: c:\users\all users\start menu I want to change the icon on a program on the start menu for a program that all users access. When I go to above location I get an "Access is Denied". Again, I could hack my way past that, but I want to understand the architecture and do things the right way. You are probably logged on as *an* administrator, not *the* Administrator. An administrator is a user with administrator privileges, which actually means *some*, not all, administrator privileges. Run this command from an elevated command prompt: net user Administrator /active:yes Then switch user to the user whose *name* is Administrator. Hopefully you know the password (or there isn't one, i.e., blank field). After having your way with the computer, switch back to your regular account and run the opposite command from an elevated command window, net user Administrator /active:no -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
... On 2/12/2014, W posted: "BobbyM" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. I'm having what may be a related issue. Logged into Explorer as the administrative user, I am unable to access: c:\users\all users\start menu I want to change the icon on a program on the start menu for a program that all users access. When I go to above location I get an "Access is Denied". Again, I could hack my way past that, but I want to understand the architecture and do things the right way. You are probably logged on as *an* administrator, not *the* Administrator. An administrator is a user with administrator privileges, which actually means *some*, not all, administrator privileges. Run this command from an elevated command prompt: net user Administrator /active:yes Then switch user to the user whose *name* is Administrator. Hopefully you know the password (or there isn't one, i.e., blank field). After having your way with the computer, switch back to your regular account and run the opposite command from an elevated command window, net user Administrator /active:no Which privileges do you think my administrative user (NOT the literal userid Administrator) might be missing? I follow your solution path, but wow what a hassle that would be to constantly have to enable a user, logout and switch to that user, do some work, exit and log back in as former user, disable Administrator account. Do that seven times a day and you'll be praying for Microsoft to be washed into the ocean by a tidal wave. I'm hoping I can access a list of privileges for the administrative user and quickly determine which I need to have access to all parts of the file system, at least on read only basis. -- W |
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W wrote:
"...winston?" wrote in message ... W wrote: "BobbyM" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. Ah, thanks! Curious that they don't just make Documents & Settings a hard link to the new folder. It's a 'junction' for o/s backward compatibility not user compatibility - i.e. no reason to access it since it doesn't contain anything Had they made it a hard link to Users, you could have just double clicked it and entered into the Users folder automatically. Might have been a nicer user experience. It takes more effort to get to that location to click it than it does to get to the folder it 'junctions' to...not sure how that would be perceived as a user experience improvement. -- ....winston msft mvp consumer apps |
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On 2/12/2014, W posted:
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014, W posted: "BobbyM" wrote in message ... On 2/12/2014 4:38 PM, W wrote: While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. Documents & Settings is a dummy folder. Try looking in "users" under whichever account's user name. I'm having what may be a related issue. Logged into Explorer as the administrative user, I am unable to access: c:\users\all users\start menu I want to change the icon on a program on the start menu for a program that all users access. When I go to above location I get an "Access is Denied". Again, I could hack my way past that, but I want to understand the architecture and do things the right way. You are probably logged on as *an* administrator, not *the* Administrator. An administrator is a user with administrator privileges, which actually means *some*, not all, administrator privileges. Run this command from an elevated command prompt: net user Administrator /active:yes Then switch user to the user whose *name* is Administrator. Hopefully you know the password (or there isn't one, i.e., blank field). After having your way with the computer, switch back to your regular account and run the opposite command from an elevated command window, net user Administrator /active:no Which privileges do you think my administrative user (NOT the literal userid Administrator) might be missing? For instance, the one you're having trouble with :-) Beyond that, I don't know much. I follow your solution path, but wow what a hassle that would be to constantly have to enable a user, logout and switch to that user, do some work, exit and log back in as former user, disable Administrator account. Do that seven times a day and you'll be praying for Microsoft to be washed into the ocean by a tidal wave. I'm hoping I can access a list of privileges for the administrative user and quickly determine which I need to have access to all parts of the file system, at least on read only basis. If you are switching back and forth a lot, either reschedule your operations (kidding - or maybe it *is* a good idea?) or don't bother disabling the Administrator account until you're finished with all. I so rarely have to log in as root (Unix slang for Administrator) in Windows that I don't see it as much of a chore; obviously your mileage does vary. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Getting Explorer Access to Documents & Settings
"W" wrote in message
... While logged in as the Administrative user, how do you get access to the Documents & Settings folder? Even when I log in as admin and explicitly start up Explorer as the Admin user, I am blocked from access to this folder. I could override security settings, but I hate to tamper with default settings without knowing more about the architecture here first. So it looks like there is a more general issue here. Whenever a folder in Explorer is a junction point, you cannot traverse it. You can go to the command line and do a "dir /a:h" in its parent folder to see the location of the actual folder and then go there. It's not clear why Microsoft doesn't want to let us use Explorer to have any access to a junction point just transport you to the real file system location. The information is clearly embedded in the junction point, so why not let Explorer use that information? -- W |
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In message , W
writes: [] I'm having what may be a related issue. Logged into Explorer as the administrative user, I am unable to access: c:\users\all users\start menu I want to change the icon on a program on the start menu for a program that all users access. When I go to above location I get an "Access is Denied". Again, I could hack my way past that, but I want to understand the architecture and do things the right way. What happens if you, from Start, select All Programs, then the Startup group, and right-click on it (and select Explore [or Open if you must])? [You might have to go into All Users under it.] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Electricians do it 'till it Hz. |
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