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Old January 11th 18, 07:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
OGEE
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

Latest Everything.exe installed.

It is so much faster and very useful

EXCEPT !

when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing
other apps to turn into snails.

If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops
stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage.

Any way to moderate Everything ?


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Old January 11th 18, 07:43 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Rene Lamontagne
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

On 01/11/2018 12:29 PM, OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed.

It is so much faster and very useful

Â*Â* EXCEPT !

Â*Â* when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing
other apps to turn into snails.

If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops
stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage.

Any way to moderate Everything ?


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I just checked mine, Version 1.4.1.877
and it is all normal fully open or minimized it is using 2 to 3 percent,
All OK.

Rene

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Old January 11th 18, 08:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed.

It is so much faster and very useful

EXCEPT !

when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing
other apps to turn into snails.

If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops
stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage.

Any way to moderate Everything ?


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If it was me, I would run Process Monitor when Everything is
drawing down 80% CPU, and see what part of the file system it's
banging on. Apparently Everything has "exclusions" to avoid
this sort of looping behavior.

Process Monitor

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...nloads/procmon

Version 3.4

Runs on:

Client: Windows Vista and higher.
Server: Windows Server 2008 and higher.

If Everything is monitoring the folder where it keeps the
indexes, it'll go into a loop.

Some filter terms might be

"Process Name" "Begins With" "Everything" === try this by itself first
"Operation" "Is" "ReadFile" === this one might make for easier reading later

but you might be able to see the egregious behavior without
even doing any fancy analysis. The tick box in the File menu
starts and stops the trace, and it can use a bit of CPU while
tracing. Stop the trace, then go look at what you got.

*******

From my Sent folder, the following links might work for WinXP. Version 3.1

https://web.archive.org/web/20150117...rnals/bb896645

I had some trouble with the download link. I hope this works.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150208...essMonitor.zip

Paul
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Old January 11th 18, 08:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Shadow
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:29:23 -0800, OGEE wrote:

Latest Everything.exe installed.

It is so much faster and very useful

EXCEPT !

when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing
other apps to turn into snails.

If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops
stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage.

Any way to moderate Everything ?


Process Lasso is free for XP users, and you can configure it to decide
who gets what in the way of CPU usage.

You were unclear as to whether you are using XP or 7 (you
cross-posted).

Have you tried "Index Your Files" ?

http://www.indexyourfiles.com/

There's a portable version available.

Or for a really fast search

https://sourceforge.net/projects/swiftsearch/

It doesn't do file content, though, only filenames. Also portable.
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Old January 11th 18, 08:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

OGEE wrote:

Latest Everything.exe installed.

It is so much faster and very useful

EXCEPT !

when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing
other apps to turn into snails.

If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops
stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage.

Any way to moderate Everything ?


Sounds like when you installed the update that you lost all your old
indexes so Everything had to rebuild them all again. Just like the
Indexing Service in Windows (which can be configured to index just by
filenames or by filenames and content although content will slow it
down), Everything is just another indexing service. However, unlike the
one in Windows, Everything doesn't hide "special" folders.

How long is history configured? Forever (indefinitely) or just 1 day?
The more attributes you add to an index (folder size, file size, date
modified, date accessed, index attributes, etc) the more has to get
indexed, the larger the index database, the longer it all takes.

Are you including removable drives in the Everything index? If so, do
you often have those removable drives attached to your computer? Which,
if any, removable drives do you really need to have their files indexed?
I have a backup drive (to where copies of backups and downloads are
stored) included in Everything's indexing but not any of my other USB
flash drives since their content fluctuates based on how I use them at
the time.

Are you using FTP or HTTP to have Everything scan those remote
locations, too? Those are over the network and will not match the
speeds of your internal HDDs or SDDs. The more you have Everything
indexing, well, the longer it takes.

Have you gone into Everything's options and have it perform a rebuild of
its indexing database? How long does that take? If very short but
Everything is still chewing CPU usage afterward, it is trying to index
something that is very slow to access. During a rebuild, the status bar
in the main GUI will show what device it is currently scanning followed
by an aggregate sort operation.

Since this is an application issue and not an OS issue, you might want
to ask in a community more focused on that application. Find other
Everything users in the forums over at:

https://www.voidtools.com/forum/

I have no idea how active are their forums nor if there are any posts
discussing high CPU usage with Everything. Their forum does not permit
searches unless logged in. While I use Everything, I'm not creating an
account to do a search on your problem. Before posting over there
(provided a search turns up nothing relevant to you), you might want to
run Everything in debug mode to report any findings there; see
https://www.voidtools.com/forum/view...php?f=6&t=1713.

I did a Google search "search everything high CPU usage" and managed to
find some of their forums posts that way. For example:

https://www.voidtools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=508

That mentions back in 2009 there was a bug causing high CPU usage in
what was then a new release. It could happen again. I am using
Everything 1.4.1.877 x64 on Windows 7 Home x64. You cross-posted to
multiple OS newsgroups but no mention if the CPU usage problem is
exhibited on all those platforms. Just pick one on which to focus when
posting to their newsgroup. You also didn't mention bitwidth version of
Search Everything that you are using. There are 32- and 64-bit versions
of Search Everything. Since you cross-posted to the Windows XP
newsgroup, presumably you are using there the 32-bit version of Search
Everything but is the high CPU usage a problem on Windows XP? If the
problem is only on Windows 7, mention its bitwidth and also the bitwidth
of Search Everything you're using there.

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Old January 11th 18, 08:39 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:08:32 -0500, Paul wrote:

If Everything is monitoring the folder where it keeps the
indexes, it'll go into a loop.


I don't think that's the case. Any program that monitors the filesystem
like that is probably going to know how to exclude itself without any
user intervention.

Anyway, I've been using Everything on multiple PCs for a number of years
now and I've made no attempt to exclude the location of its indexes.
I've seen no evidence of an activity loop.


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Old January 11th 18, 09:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Nil[_5_]
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

On 11 Jan 2018, Char Jackson wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I don't think that's the case. Any program that monitors the
filesystem like that is probably going to know how to exclude
itself without any user intervention.

Anyway, I've been using Everything on multiple PCs for a number of
years now and I've made no attempt to exclude the location of its
indexes. I've seen no evidence of an activity loop.


Nor have I. Setting up Everything has always been easy. I've had to
exclude an occasional drive or partition, and once I somehow had it
monitoring a drive twice, so I had double entries, but that was my own
error. It mostly just works out of the box with no tweaking required.

Right now it's using about 60 MB while idle. More than I expected to
see, but the footprint isn't growing, and I detect no performance
impact.
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Old January 11th 18, 11:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Everything Stealing Too Much CPU

Nil wrote:
On 11 Jan 2018, Char Jackson wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I don't think that's the case. Any program that monitors the
filesystem like that is probably going to know how to exclude
itself without any user intervention.

Anyway, I've been using Everything on multiple PCs for a number of
years now and I've made no attempt to exclude the location of its
indexes. I've seen no evidence of an activity loop.


Nor have I. Setting up Everything has always been easy. I've had to
exclude an occasional drive or partition, and once I somehow had it
monitoring a drive twice, so I had double entries, but that was my own
error. It mostly just works out of the box with no tweaking required.

Right now it's using about 60 MB while idle. More than I expected to
see, but the footprint isn't growing, and I detect no performance
impact.


The offer still stands though.

Use Process Monitor to see what kind of things it
is doing. It's got to be doing more than coin
mining, and there's gotta be some hints :-)

Paul
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Old January 12th 18, 10:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
OGEE[_2_]
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Thanks all. On next boot i will look at things more critically.

I use the latest Everything on both XP and 7 and 10. no Vista or 8 here.

This was not a new update or install when the problem arose.

The laptop had been booten many times and run for hours each time so
indexing is not the likely culprit.

Anyway the new Everything seem to be lightning fast of all fronts.
kudos to the developer.

I use everything all the time.
e.g. I download a file using FireFox or whatever and the downloader does
not show it so I use Everything and sort by date and there is the just
downloaded file. love it.

I even include my flash (pen) drives and NAS drives.

It may have been that Everything was trying hard to find some
disconnected drives and spinning its wheels there.

unfortunately i see no way to temporarily disconnect drives that are not
available at boot time.

new post coming.



OGEE wrote:
Latest Everything.exe installed.

It is so much faster and very useful

EXCEPT !

when minimized to the taskbar it eats over 80% of the CPU causing
other apps to turn into snails.

If I bring it to the main window "Show Search Window" Everything stops
stealing all that CPU and drops down to around 3% CPU usage.

Any way to moderate Everything ?


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