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  #136  
Old October 21st 14, 10:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:52:20 -0500, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

I consider "actual/real work" that for which one is being
compensated. Such work has been done on tablets for decades and on
phones at least since the Blackberry.


I didn't know tablets had existed for decades.

Yes, they have. I even had some of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...blet_computers

You can learn something interesting every day, if you wish. ;-)


quote
The first patent for a system that recognized handwritten characters
by analyzing the handwriting motion was granted in 1915. The first
publicly demonstrated system using a tablet and handwriting text
recognition instead of a keyboard for working with a modern digital
computer dates to 1956.
end quote

I wonder how much "actual/real work" was done on those?

Rod.
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  #137  
Old October 21st 14, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil Gould[_2_]
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Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:52:20 -0500, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

I consider "actual/real work" that for which one is being
compensated. Such work has been done on tablets for decades and on
phones at least since the Blackberry.

I didn't know tablets had existed for decades.

Yes, they have. I even had some of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...blet_computers

You can learn something interesting every day, if you wish. ;-)


quote
The first patent for a system that recognized handwritten characters
by analyzing the handwriting motion was granted in 1915. The first
publicly demonstrated system using a tablet and handwriting text
recognition instead of a keyboard for working with a modern digital
computer dates to 1956.
end quote

I wonder how much "actual/real work" was done on those?

I'll bet that the tablets' developers were getting paid, so probably more
than some folks do today! 8-D

Meanwhile, quite a bit has happened since 1956. My first tablet experiences
were in the mid '70s, and I guarantee that you could't afford one if you
weren't getting paid to use it.

--
best regards,

Neil


  #138  
Old October 21st 14, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:27:05 -0500, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

I consider "actual/real work" that for which one is being
compensated. Such work has been done on tablets for decades and on
phones at least since the Blackberry.

I didn't know tablets had existed for decades.

Yes, they have. I even had some of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...blet_computers

You can learn something interesting every day, if you wish. ;-)


quote
The first patent for a system that recognized handwritten characters
by analyzing the handwriting motion was granted in 1915. The first
publicly demonstrated system using a tablet and handwriting text
recognition instead of a keyboard for working with a modern digital
computer dates to 1956.
end quote

I wonder how much "actual/real work" was done on those?

I'll bet that the tablets' developers were getting paid, so probably more
than some folks do today! 8-D

Meanwhile, quite a bit has happened since 1956. My first tablet experiences
were in the mid '70s, and I guarantee that you could't afford one if you
weren't getting paid to use it.


I was obliged to use a touch screen computer at work in the early 90s
(for controlling video recorders) using Windows 3.1. There was a
tablet version available, if you think a beige mains powered box about
10cm thick is worthy of the name, but we had to use standard CRTs with
vertical screens which got covered with muck, as did our fingers. This
was my first experience with touch screens, and was when I learned to
hate them.

Rod.
  #139  
Old October 21st 14, 07:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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Default Window 8.1 tablets

On 10/21/2014 12:26 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 07:27:05 -0500, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

I consider "actual/real work" that for which one is being
compensated. Such work has been done on tablets for decades and on
phones at least since the Blackberry.

I didn't know tablets had existed for decades.

Yes, they have. I even had some of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...blet_computers

You can learn something interesting every day, if you wish. ;-)

quote
The first patent for a system that recognized handwritten characters
by analyzing the handwriting motion was granted in 1915. The first
publicly demonstrated system using a tablet and handwriting text
recognition instead of a keyboard for working with a modern digital
computer dates to 1956.
end quote

I wonder how much "actual/real work" was done on those?

I'll bet that the tablets' developers were getting paid, so probably more
than some folks do today! 8-D

Meanwhile, quite a bit has happened since 1956. My first tablet experiences
were in the mid '70s, and I guarantee that you could't afford one if you
weren't getting paid to use it.


I was obliged to use a touch screen computer at work in the early 90s
(for controlling video recorders) using Windows 3.1. There was a
tablet version available, if you think a beige mains powered box about
10cm thick is worthy of the name, but we had to use standard CRTs with
vertical screens which got covered with muck, as did our fingers. This
was my first experience with touch screens, and was when I learned to
hate them.

Early versions of most anything might only be attractive to visionaries
who can see enough of the possibilities to put up with the inconveniences.

Tablets and touchscreens have developed into the kinds of devices that
were only vague ideas in the 80s. Based on the rate of adaption, they
aren't going away any time soon, so it's only logical to integrate them
into the workflow that was previously only available to notebooks and
desktops. Because of the ability to run mainstream apps, Win8 is
actually further along that path than other options, due in part to
those Win3.1 "tablets" that came before.

--
best regards,

Neil
  #140  
Old October 22nd 14, 10:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Bill[_40_]
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In message , lew
writes
On 2014-10-21, Ken Springer wrote:
On 10/20/14 4:46 PM, ...winston??? wrote:
Data on someone's server, whether we like it today or not, is the
obvious direction the future will take.


Right back to where things started. :-)


But the younger geeks didn't know about the "mainframes"; those
with the knowledge are nearly all gone.

Knew some people who were "out of date" when the skinny neckties
were in vogue; but then became "in" when the fat ties came around
again......:-) Same with the pleated pants, etc...


Back in the late 70's I worked in a building that below us held the
city's huge mainframe machine. I was on nodding terms with the staff
operating and maintaining it.
I was there building primitive computing devices, each one having a
specific task, such as remote control of audio routing systems, word
processing, text messaging and so on. All of these were stand alone and
many never got past the proof-of-concept stage, but they cemented my
views on the future of computing.

When, much later, I had my business, I set up a machine for the
accounts, tax and confidential business information, several machines
for specific operational tasks, a machine for communications, and a
general-purpose internet/email/news machine.

Now I'm retired, I still keep the multiple machines each with a specific
use. If I want to share locally, I use something like Lenovo Share-it.
If I want to use the cloud I do, but I try to control what info goes
there. My internet access occasionally fails for periods until the man
with the ladder gets to the right telegraph pole, so I work locally. I
can use a phablet for access, but only with wifi because of the phone
charges.

I see sons and daughters using the cloud-based systems. Very efficient
when they work, but they often seem to arrive saying "have you got a
computer I can use?". The last time was when he had sat on his iPhone6.

I just hate the idea of huge amounts of my data travelling all around
the world when it doesn't have to. I am always right :-)
--
Bill
  #141  
Old October 22nd 14, 01:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:46:55 +0100, Bill wrote:

I just hate the idea of huge amounts of my data travelling all around
the world when it doesn't have to. I am always right :-)


So am I. :-)

Rod.
  #142  
Old October 22nd 14, 02:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
mechanic
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:46:55 +0100, Bill wrote:

I just hate the idea of huge amounts of my data travelling all
around the world when it doesn't have to. I am always right :-)


Is there a cost involved in all this travelling? If not that might
be the problem.
  #143  
Old October 22nd 14, 05:34 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 08:58:17 -0400, Wolf K
wrote:

I just hate the idea of huge amounts of my data travelling all around
the world when it doesn't have to. I am always right :-)


So am I. :-)

Rod.


+1.

Which why I don' have a "data plan" for the smartphone. I use its wi-fi
capability for occasional browsing and for e-mail, though. Just like a
"real" computer. Heh heh.


Same here. I have no contracts or subscriptions to anything that needs
paying for, just a PAYG SIM card, and a phone that has wi-fi,
bluetooth, mobile data and GPS, all of which can be switched on and
off individually as required to save battery and/or data costs.

I have little sympathy for those people who sometimes hit the news
with sad tales of how they went on holiday or gave a smartgadget to a
toddler and clocked up bills running into thousands. The parental
advice that was drummed into me more than half a century ago about
watching how much you're using of any paid resource and switching
things off when they're not needed seems like elementary common sense,
and just as valid today as it ever was.

Kids today...

Rod.
  #144  
Old October 22nd 14, 06:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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On 10/22/2014 9:18 AM, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:46:55 +0100, Bill wrote:

I just hate the idea of huge amounts of my data travelling all
around the world when it doesn't have to. I am always right :-)


Is there a cost involved in all this travelling? If not that might
be the problem.

Well, TAANSTAFL still applies...

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Neil
 




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