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-- I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions. Win 7 Pro "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other ******* die for his." - General George Patton (1885-1945) |
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"Farmer" wrote
| I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions. | | Win 7 Pro | ImgBurn. |
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 19:10:33 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: "Farmer" wrote | I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions. | | Win 7 Pro | ImgBurn. +1 Make it portable before you use it. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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Farmer wrote:
{NOTHING} What a non-interesting post. Nothing in it. Just a blank post. Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is BEFORE any signature! With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff signature. |
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"VanguardLH" wrote
| Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter | line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user | have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are | usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is | BEFORE any signature! | | With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff | signature. I don't like signatures, either, but so what? You know what's worse? People who post just to whine about stuff they don't like. |
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Mayayana wrote:
"VanguardLH" wrote | Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter | line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user | have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are | usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is | BEFORE any signature! | | With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff | signature. I don't like signatures, either, but so what? You know what's worse? People who post just to whine about stuff they don't like. You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong. Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature? |
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In message , Mayayana
writes: "Farmer" wrote | I would like a free DVD burner any suggestions. | | Win 7 Pro | ImgBurn. +1. (There are others which do the job fine too, but ImgBurn is clean, small, and there are lots here who know about it - and, I haven't heard of any problems with it other than the below.) Received wisdom is to get a version prior to some (I can't remember which, I have 2.5.8.0), and to turn ofd auto-update [and possibly to run the install with your connection disconnected], since versions after that one come with crudware and offer nothing new. I don't know if they run on 10 though; 2.5.8.0 certainly runs on this 7. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way. |
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In message , VanguardLH
writes: Mayayana wrote: "VanguardLH" wrote | Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter | line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user | have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are | usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is | BEFORE any signature! | | With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff | signature. There's a chap in uk.tech.broadcast who top-posts, but has somehow got his system set up so that the body of any post he _responds_ to is below the .sig line; the result being that (without taking steps), if you respond to his posts, you only get his new bit, not what came before, which is tedious if you want to respond to some of what they said too. In his case, I cut him some slack on the top-posting, for a reason: he is blind, and wading through a lot of text he's already seen is tedious (blind people use either a screen-reader - i. e. audio out - or Braille; I can't remember which he has. Either is slow, especially the audio way). Although I wish he'd just _not_ use a proper "-- " line! (I've asked him, but other members of the 'group thought I was unfairly attacking him [which I wasn't], so I let it drop.) I don't like signatures, either, but so what? You know what's worse? People who post just to whine about stuff they don't like. You mean, like you're doing (-:? [Sorry, couldn't resist ...] You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I Did that line come out quite as you intended? posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong. Yes - s/he may genuinely not know the consequences of doing so; your post at the top of this one _isn't_ just a whine, you explain _why_, which is educational both for him/her (if he's still reading this far) and anyone else reading it. Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature? I think Mayayana's dislike of signatures in general triggered a (small, by his standards!) rant, missing the educational point. (I know I can be similarly distracted myself.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way. |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote: "VanguardLH" wrote | Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter | line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user | have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are | usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is | BEFORE any signature! | | With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff | signature. I don't like signatures, either, but so what? You know what's worse? People who post just to whine about stuff they don't like. You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong. Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature? I don't think the OP did that. He's using Thunderbird. I suspect he was editing the sig itself and simply clicked the post button after editing the sig. He added his Patton quote to the sig and just kept on typing into the same editing box. That's also why the message is so short. Since the dialog here isn't very big, there's "not enough lines" for an extensive question. https://i.postimg.cc/sxPhC9Bn/message_in_a_bottle.gif The hard part to explain, is the crafting of the message pane. He managed to get a newsgroup entry in the window (using the Write button), which means that window had to be open too. Enter the sig. Flip over and click send or whatever? Seems unlikely somehow. He managed to enter a Subject: which required "being on target" for part of the operation. So while entering the entire message in the sig dialog is possible, it's the sending of the empty message that isn't as easy to explain. This is why older versions of Thunderbird are "better". The version I've got, it only accepts a separate text file for a sig. You'd have to open Notepad to craft one, and it wouldn't be natural to put the whole message in there. Paul |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:14:07 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote: "VanguardLH" wrote | Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter | line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user | have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are | usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is | BEFORE any signature! | | With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff | signature. I don't like signatures, either, but so what? You know what's worse? People who post just to whine about stuff they don't like. You were a very pupil in school as you were obstinate just to be so. I posted as a learning prod of what the OP did wrong. Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature? The above reads as if you have been hitting the sauce a little too hard. VanguardLH, what do you do during the day, stand outside and yell at clouds? |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
There's a chap in uk.tech.broadcast who top-posts, but has somehow got his system set up so that the body of any post he _responds_ to is below the .sig line; the result being that (without taking steps), if you respond to his posts, you only get his new bit, not what came before, which is tedious if you want to respond to some of what they said too. There has been a long-time argument between old-timers in Usenet with new[er] posters (mostly accustomed to top-posting as that is the default in e-mail replies) regarding top versus bottom posting. My opinion is that you massage your quoted content to match your posting style. If not then you don't have a posting style and instead will post a mess. If you top-post then you arrange all quoted content in the same order. That means having to rearrange all the cited posts if the parent post had them in bottom-posted order. If you bottom-post then you make sure all the cited posts are also in bottom-posted order. You putting your new content in a reply at the top or bottom without regard to the same order in the quoted content means you are lazy and messy. Alas, most posters fall into the first category: they're lazy, use whatever the client generates, don't review their posts before submission, and don't trim the quoted content. Regardless of top- or bottom-posting, signatures ALWAYS go at the *end* of a reply. That chap is top-posting and his client (probably Outlook Express) is adding the signature right after his added content in his reply. That was/is a problem with Outlook Express and why it is the bane of Usenet and despised by many old-timers for ****ing up the posting order (top vs bottom) and putting the sig in the wrong place. So came about OE-QuoteFix (which got abandoned and got crippled by changes in content rendering by OE). An update in Windows XP's service pack 3 added registry entries where the user could alter the behavior of OE: add signature after the newly added content (old default) or at the end of the entire post (the de facto standard), along with another setting to determine the default position of the insert cursor when composing a new message (at the 'end' to effect bottom-posting instead of the prior default of at the top as used with e-mail). However, because many (perhaps most) posters are lazy, they never read the changes made by SP3 for WinXP to know there registry settings became available to change posting order and sig placement. After all, they're lazy, so their post is whatever their client generates and the poster doesn't bother editing anything other than their new content which they don't review before clicking the Send button. You mean, like you're doing (-:? [Sorry, couldn't resist ...] Sometimes I jab with the retort, "Stop whining about my whining." |
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Paul wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Simple: Do NOT put the body of your message after the signature delimiter line. You have a problem with promoting that standard? Or you think it is just dandy to put everything in the signature? I don't think the OP did that. He's using Thunderbird. I suspect he was editing the sig itself and simply clicked the post button after editing the sig. He added his Patton quote to the sig and just kept on typing into the same editing box. I thought Thunderbird has its config for whether a sig got added and what was its content but it would be static content. I suspect the OP is using an extension that automatically adds the off-topic fluff signature content ("The object of war ...") and the extension is screwing up his messages by misplacing its fluff sig. I've seen an auto-sig add extension do that back when I trialed TBird for half a year but don't remember which one it was. Whether it be extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, or Google Chrome, extension authors don't always produce quality code or even understand the context in which it will get used, like e-mail versus newsgroups RFC and de facto standards. Extensions are those caveat emptor code piles (i.e., some are turds). |
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Richard Nelson wrote:
VanguardLH, what do you do during the day, stand outside and yell at clouds? No, but I do flash my high beams when someone at night is driving at me with theirs on, or roll my window down when I pull up alongside them to warn them that they are dragging something hanging out their side door. I also will laugh at someone who walks into a glass wall instead of using the glass door which has the pull handle. I'm not required to ignore every stupidity or faux pas. You also exemplify the same attitude by noticing I missed a word ("combative" before "pupil"). Stop whining about my whining. |
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"Mayayana" on Mon, 17 Sep 2018 21:53:00
-0400 typed in alt.windows7.general the following: "VanguardLH" wrote | Oh, yes, I know there was content but it was AFTER the sigdash delimiter | line -- so EVERYTHING in the post was a signature. I and other user | have their clients configured to strip out signatures since they are | usually fluff and almost always off-topic. The body of a message is | BEFORE any signature! | | With Farmer's post, he jams his message into his off-topic MOTD fluff | signature. I don't like signatures, either, but so what? You know what's worse? People who post just to whine about stuff they don't like. I hate it when people do that. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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