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Old October 20th 18, 03:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location being mapped to a drive letter
on Windows 10 work for you using the specified freeware on a modern (above
4.3) Android (e.g., I'm on Android 7.0 Nougat)?

I already have a working solution; hence this request is to help others.
What we want to figure out is what _general_ solutions work for all.

To that end, I ask that expert Windows 10 users run one of these tests.
TEST 0: Basic tests from the Windows command line (all work fine for me)
TEST A: FTPUse Windows freeware (does not work for me on Win10)
TEST B: SFTP Net Drive Windows freeware (does not work for me on Win10)
TEST C: DND Windows freeware (works just fine for me on Win10)
=====
STEP 0. On Android, install & configure any desired FTP Server freewa
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.ftpserver
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.primftpd
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.primftpd/
etc.
NOTE: I used the Android "Olive Tree" FTP server set at the defaults.
Network interface = WiFi
Port = 2221
Passive Ports = 2300-2399
Anonymous user = [x]
User name = francis
User password = francis
Home directory = SdCard (/storage/emulated/0)
Ftp server available on = ftp://192.168.1.6:2221

Test your FTP connection using a variety of basic methods:
Quick test 1: Windows browser:
NOTE: The first "francis" is the login; the second one is the passwd.
You should be able to see your Android files on Windows over WiFi FTP.

Quick test 2: Windows command line:
C:\ ftp
ftp open 192.168.1.6 (your IP address will differ)
user francis
passwd francis
ftp dir (you may have to accept a Windows Defender popup)
You should be able to see your Android files on Windows over WiFi FTP.
ftp quit

Quick test 3: File Explorer
RightClick Add a network location

You should be able to see your Android files on Windows over WiFi FTP.
=====
STEP A1: Download, install, & configure the FTPUse Windows freeware
https://www.ferrobackup.com/download/FtpUseInst.exe
I saved to: C:\software\network\ftp\ftpuse\FtpUseInst.exe (485 KB)
It wanted to go to: C:\Program Files\Ferro Software\FtpUse
I installed into: C:\app\network\ftp\ftpuse
Quick test: C:\ path (it should show the directory in the path)
Quick test: C:\ ftpuse --help (it should show the manpage)

STEP A2: Test FTPUse on Windows 10:
C:\ ftpuse T: 192.168.1.6 francis /USER:francis /PORT:2221 /debug
For some reason, this isn't working even though a browser works fine:
Swift FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
Swift FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg
Olive FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7355568dir09.jpg
Olive FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4223201dir010.jpg
=====
STEP B1: Download, install, & configure SFTPNetDrive Windows freeware
https://www.nsoftware.com/sftp/netdrive/ (bogus name & email ok)
I saved to: C:\software\network\ftp\sftpnetdrive\SFTPNetDRive. exe
It wanted to go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\SFTP Net Drive 2017
I installed into: C:\app\network\ftp\sftpnetdrive
The target was: C:\app\network\ftp\sftpnetdrive\SftpNetDrive.exe
Product registration can't be skipped.
You have to provide a name & email address (I gave it bogus info).
The installer default choices were set to:
Select components to install
[x]SFTP Net Drive 2017
[x]Start menu group
[x]Desktop icon
[x]Start on Windows startup
I changed that to:
Select components to install
[x]SFTP Net Drive 2017
[x]Start menu group
[x]Desktop icon
[_]Start on Windows startup
STEP B2: Mount the FTP network location as a Windows removable drive:
https://www.wintips.org/map-ftp-to-local-drive-letter-windows/
https://www.ferrobackup.com/map-ftp-as-disk.html
When the installation finished, it asked if I wanted to start.
I OK'd that request to start.
When it started, it asks:
Profile (I left this at "(Unamed)")
Server (I changed to 192.168.1.6:2221)
Username (francis)
Authentication (I changed this from "Key" to "Password")
Password (francis)
Key (I left this at "authentication agent (PuTTY or SSH))
Drive Letter: (I left this at "Last Available")
Advanced - Port (I changed the port from 22 to 2221)
I then hit the "Connect" button.
It said "Connecting..." for a long time.
Then I get: "Error" "Connection timeout".
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2809525dir013.jpg
=====
STEP C1: Download, install, & configure the DND Windows freeware
http://www.directnet-drive.net/
I saved to: C:\software\network\ftp_mounting\directnetdrive\dn d-setup.msi
It wanted to go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\DirectNet Drive\
(Note the trailing backslash!)
I installed into: C:\app\network\ftp\directnetdrive\
The target was: C:\app\network\ftp\directnetdrive\dndclient.exe
STEP C2: Run the desktop shortcut & configure as per your setup.
NOTE: The configuration below is mine; yours will differ.
When DirectNetDrive runs, a form pops up:
site name (default = blank)
drive letter (default = blank)
url (default =
http://)
protocol (default = WebDAV) (choices are WebDAV, FTP, SFTP)
host (default = blank)
port (default = blank)
path (default = blank)
user (default = blank)
password (default = blank)
proxy (default = None)
ssl (default = None)

I changed that to:
site name (default = blank)
drive letter = R
url (this changed to )
protocol = FTP
host = 192.168.1.6
port = 2221
path (default = blank)
user = francis
password = francis
proxy (default = None)
ssl (default = None)

I hit the "Connect" button.
Voila!
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4731516dir011.jpg
I could right click to "Open a command window here" to run DOS commands
directly on the Android file system mapped to a drive letter.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6340420dir012.jpg
=====
Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location being mapped to a drive letter
on Windows 10 work for you using the specified freeware on a modern (above
4.3) Android?
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Old October 20th 18, 06:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Idaho Homo Joe
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive lettermapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

On 10/19/2018 10:45 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location being mapped to a drive letter
on Windows 10 work for you using the specified freeware on a modern (above
4.3) Android (e.g., I'm on Android 7.0 Nougat)?

I already have a working solution; hence this request is to help others.
What we want to figure out is what _general_ solutions work for all.

To that end, I ask that expert Windows 10 users run one of these tests.
TEST 0: Basic tests from the Windows command line (all work fine for me)
TEST A: FTPUse Windows freeware (does not work for me on Win10)
TEST B: SFTP Net Drive Windows freeware (does not work for me on Win10)
TEST C: DND Windows freeware (works just fine for me on Win10)
=====
STEP 0. On Android, install & configure any desired FTP Server freewa
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.ftpserver
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.primftpd
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.primftpd/
etc.
NOTE: I used the Android "Olive Tree" FTP server set at the defaults.
Network interface = WiFi
Port = 2221
Passive Ports = 2300-2399
Anonymous user = [x]
User name = francis
User password = francis
Home directory = SdCard (/storage/emulated/0)
Ftp server available on = ftp://192.168.1.6:2221

Test your FTP connection using a variety of basic methods:
Quick test 1: Windows browser:
NOTE: The first "francis" is the login; the second one is the passwd.
You should be able to see your Android files on Windows over WiFi FTP.

Quick test 2: Windows command line:
C:\ ftp
ftp open 192.168.1.6 (your IP address will differ)
user francis
passwd francis
ftp dir (you may have to accept a Windows Defender popup)
You should be able to see your Android files on Windows over WiFi FTP.
ftp quit

Quick test 3: File Explorer
RightClick Add a network location

You should be able to see your Android files on Windows over WiFi FTP.
=====
STEP A1: Download, install, & configure the FTPUse Windows freeware
https://www.ferrobackup.com/download/FtpUseInst.exe
I saved to: C:\software\network\ftp\ftpuse\FtpUseInst.exe (485 KB)
It wanted to go to: C:\Program Files\Ferro Software\FtpUse
I installed into: C:\app\network\ftp\ftpuse
Quick test: C:\ path (it should show the directory in the path)
Quick test: C:\ ftpuse --help (it should show the manpage)

STEP A2: Test FTPUse on Windows 10:
C:\ ftpuse T: 192.168.1.6 francis /USER:francis /PORT:2221 /debug
For some reason, this isn't working even though a browser works fine:
Swift FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7687244dir06.jpg
Swift FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=3316456dir08.jpg
Olive FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7355568dir09.jpg
Olive FTP: http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4223201dir010.jpg
=====
STEP B1: Download, install, & configure SFTPNetDrive Windows freeware
https://www.nsoftware.com/sftp/netdrive/ (bogus name & email ok)
I saved to: C:\software\network\ftp\sftpnetdrive\SFTPNetDRive. exe
It wanted to go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\SFTP Net Drive 2017
I installed into: C:\app\network\ftp\sftpnetdrive
The target was: C:\app\network\ftp\sftpnetdrive\SftpNetDrive.exe
Product registration can't be skipped.
You have to provide a name & email address (I gave it bogus info).
The installer default choices were set to:
Select components to install
[x]SFTP Net Drive 2017
[x]Start menu group
[x]Desktop icon
[x]Start on Windows startup
I changed that to:
Select components to install
[x]SFTP Net Drive 2017
[x]Start menu group
[x]Desktop icon
[_]Start on Windows startup
STEP B2: Mount the FTP network location as a Windows removable drive:
https://www.wintips.org/map-ftp-to-local-drive-letter-windows/
https://www.ferrobackup.com/map-ftp-as-disk.html
When the installation finished, it asked if I wanted to start.
I OK'd that request to start.
When it started, it asks:
Profile (I left this at "(Unamed)")
Server (I changed to 192.168.1.6:2221)
Username (francis)
Authentication (I changed this from "Key" to "Password")
Password (francis)
Key (I left this at "authentication agent (PuTTY or SSH))
Drive Letter: (I left this at "Last Available")
Advanced - Port (I changed the port from 22 to 2221)
I then hit the "Connect" button.
It said "Connecting..." for a long time.
Then I get: "Error" "Connection timeout".
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2809525dir013.jpg
=====
STEP C1: Download, install, & configure the DND Windows freeware
http://www.directnet-drive.net/
I saved to: C:\software\network\ftp_mounting\directnetdrive\dn d-setup.msi
It wanted to go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\DirectNet Drive\
(Note the trailing backslash!)
I installed into: C:\app\network\ftp\directnetdrive\
The target was: C:\app\network\ftp\directnetdrive\dndclient.exe
STEP C2: Run the desktop shortcut & configure as per your setup.
NOTE: The configuration below is mine; yours will differ.
When DirectNetDrive runs, a form pops up:
site name (default = blank)
drive letter (default = blank)
url (default =
http://)
protocol (default = WebDAV) (choices are WebDAV, FTP, SFTP)
host (default = blank)
port (default = blank)
path (default = blank)
user (default = blank)
password (default = blank)
proxy (default = None)
ssl (default = None)

I changed that to:
site name (default = blank)
drive letter = R
url (this changed to )
protocol = FTP
host = 192.168.1.6
port = 2221
path (default = blank)
user = francis
password = francis
proxy (default = None)
ssl (default = None)

I hit the "Connect" button.
Voila!
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4731516dir011.jpg
I could right click to "Open a command window here" to run DOS commands
directly on the Android file system mapped to a drive letter.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=6340420dir012.jpg
=====
Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location being mapped to a drive letter
on Windows 10 work for you using the specified freeware on a modern (above
4.3) Android?

Oh, Arlencia! Put my penis in your mouth
and suck it! I will fill your mouth with sperm!
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Old October 24th 18, 05:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 02:45:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location being mapped to a drive letter
on Windows 10 work for you using the specified freeware on a modern (above
4.3) Android?


The good news is that Pooh reported that FPTuse created a drive letter for
his Android FTP file server on his local network over WiFi on Windows 10.

Hence I ran it again on my (highly customized) Windows 10, where out of a
half dozen tries, it "appeared" to work once, and failed for the others.

Here are my empirical results:

The Android FTP server (v 1.32) I used was set up in its default mode:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.ftpserver
o Network interface
(o)WiFi
(_)Ethernet
(_)Mobile network
(_)Bluetooth PAN
(_)Loopback (127.0.0.1)
(_)All
o Port = 2221
o Passive Ports = 2300-2399
o Anonymous user = [x]
o User name = francis
o User password = francis
o Home directory
(_)Root (/)
(o)SdCard
(_)DCIM
(_)Custom folder
(_)Ext. SdCard
o Read only = [_]
o Show hidden files = [_]
o Energy save mode = [_]
o High priority service = [x]
o Show server details = [x]

The FPTUse command I used on a Windows 10 Admin window was (verbatim):
ftpuse X: 192.168.1.7 francis /USER:francis /PORT:2221 /debug
ftpuse X: 192.168.1.7 francis /USER:francis /PORT:2221 /nopassive /debug

Reboot 1: Most of the time FTPuse simply fails:
o http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=5451129dir022.jpg
Reboot 2: But once in a great while it actually appears to work ... but ...
even then, _nothing_ shows up as a drive letter as a result.
o http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=4121239dir021.jpg
Reboot 3: And even then, FTPuse fails the next time:
o http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=8726712dir023.jpg

I don't usually deal with firewalls, where I turned off Windows Defender
(at least I think I did) for these experiments, but again, this isn't for
me so it really doesn't matter because if I can't do it out of the box,
neither will others be able to, which is the whole point, let's not forget.
Start Settings Update and security Windows security
Firewall and network protection (everything is turned off)
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9234464dir024.jjpg.jpg

In summary, FTPUse "probably" works on Windows 10 for most people.
(It used to work for me on WinXP years ago.)

I'll write up a quick summary of the half-dozen FTP solutions separately.
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Old October 27th 18, 11:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
Diesel
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

Arlen Holder
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

================================================== =================
========= The remaining questions for experts on this group are...
o *What is a freeware non-root solution for SMB share mounting
over WiFi* o *What is a freeware solution for MTP filesystem
mounting over USB*
================================================== =================
=========


I noticed three posts so far (mine will be the fourth on the thread
from what I see on screen) from you and only you. Nobody seems to be
providing you any answers to further the so called 'tribal
knowledge'

In other words, I hear crickets. A lot of crickets. Btw, I've been
reviewing the thread you sent me to:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc...0/qSXecrnZAQAJ

You've got quite the established reputation as a usenet troll. Many
people have had the same interactions with you that I've had the
misfortune of having. What you've done in the threads you've created
in alt.comp.freeware is the same thing you've created a reputation
for having done to various other newsgroups. You aren't the
expert/wizard you've tried to pass yourself off as being here,
either. You've trolled people for years now and insult anybody who
doesn't agree with something you wrote, and/or posts something that
disputes what you've already written. You can't handle critism
and/or being shown that you're incorrect well at all. Your insults
towards myself are also the common ones you use towards others you
have a disagreement of any kind with.

You write a good game of adults and maturity and such, but, you have
a hell of an established reputation (despite morphing your identity
and header information quite nicely) as that of a very immature and
childish troll who can't seem to do much of anything on his/her own
without extensive hand holding; that usually winds up going badly
for you because you invariably manage to **** off everybody who was
at some point, helping you with the project. From what I can see,
you *are infact the same person* who argued about vector graphics on
a customized font for yard signs of some kind you were working on
last year. A birthday I think it was for a friend?

You might even be the asshole who tried to correct me concerning
free and open proxies last year; they couldn't find any. So, I
posted a pile of them (I even verified they worked) along with
instructions to configure an app or a computer or a router to use
them. I heard crickets from that poster going forward, and like
yourself, they morph all of their header information. Was that you
as well?



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Old October 27th 18, 11:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
Arlen Holder
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:02:45 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

Was that you as well?


I don't know how many times I would have to repeat that I've been on Usenet
for decades before it sinks into some of the skulls out here, where I must
have so many thousands of threads, I couldn't even find them if I wanted to
since the headers are random but the questions & answers are all very real.

Many Usenet morons are provably racist in that they see only one trait of a
human and then their racist mind kicks in where they ascribe their own
racist thoughts to that person based on that one trait.

They are so racist, they can't imagine that a person could have one trait
of a group and yet, not any of the other traits of that group. It's amazing
how racist many moron Usenet posters are. Ask Mayayana, for example, why I
know him to clearly be a racist that exact way (proven multiple times).

The fact is, most of you racist Usenet posters are utter morons.
And yet, you _think_ you're utter geniuses.
That's how low on the DK scale you prove to be (time and again).

It's completely obvious that I don't hide who I am, where if it takes
someone more than 10 seconds to figure out my posts, then they are arguably
a moron - and - where I've seen plenty a self-defined "geniuses" claim that
they "figured out" my posts (which I find hilarious, since I don't bother
to hide who I am from intelligent humans and since my posts are as
distinctive as they get).

This isn't the first time I've explained this to Usenet morons; and it's
likely not the last (since you Usenet morons will never comprehend facts
that don't fit into your racist mindset).

Nonetheless, moving forward slightly, I have some minor new news which is
that the Windows "mklink" command is a possibility when people have scripts
where they might want a "folder" instead of a "drive letter" for their
Android shares on Windows:

For WebDAV shares, this may be possible using only native Windows:
mklink /d C:\tmp\ShareName \\192.168.1.7@8080\DavWWWRoot\
symbolic link created for C:\tmp\ShareName === \\192.168.1.7@8080\DavWWWRoot\

For FTP shares, using only native Windows, this may be possible:
mklink /d c:\tmp\share\ftpshare \\192.168.1.7@2221\DCIM\Camera
symbolic link created for c:\tmp\share\ftpshare === \\192.168.1.7@2221\DCIM\Camera

The problem on the FTP shares is feeding it the loginasswd credentials.
If you have advice on how that could work, that would be helpful.
  #6  
Old October 31st 18, 06:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
Diesel
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

Arlen Holder
news comp.mobile.android, wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:02:45 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

Was that you as well?


I don't know how many times I would have to repeat that I've been
on Usenet for decades before it sinks into some of the skulls out
here, where I must have so many thousands of threads, I couldn't
even find them if I wanted to since the headers are random but the
questions & answers are all very real.


You can repeat it all you like. If you've been on alt.comp.freeware
for decades, or alt.comp.virus or a variety of other technical
newsgroups, you'd know what my primary handle is and you wouldn't be
calling me an idiot, moron, stupid, etc. Yet, you don't and you do...
So....It makes me question that claim of yours.

It's completely obvious that I don't hide who I am, where if it
takes someone more than 10 seconds to figure out my posts, then
they are arguably a moron - and - where I've seen plenty a
self-defined "geniuses" claim that they "figured out" my posts
(which I find hilarious, since I don't bother to hide who I am
from intelligent humans and since my posts are as distinctive as
they get).


Please show me the post where I spefically told you I was a 'genius'
and not something you've assumed?

For FTP shares, using only native Windows, this may be possible:
mklink /d c:\tmp\share\ftpshare \\192.168.1.7@2221\DCIM\Camera
symbolic link created for c:\tmp\share\ftpshare ===
\\192.168.1.7@2221\DCIM\Camera

The problem on the FTP shares is feeding it the loginasswd
credentials. If you have advice on how that could work, that would
be helpful.


Yea, as i've told you before, stupid ****, you cannot use UNC via
FTP...Didn't sink in the first time, I guess?




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Old November 2nd 18, 09:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
Diesel
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

Arlen Holder
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:02:45 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

Was that you as well?


I don't know how many times I would have to repeat that I've been
on Usenet for decades before it sinks into some of the skulls out
here, where I must have so many thousands of threads, I couldn't
even find them if I wanted to since the headers are random but the
questions & answers are all very real.


My questions were simple. You either are/aren't the same individual
who had trouble with a font and printing signs this past/previous
summer? The posting style appears to be the same. As does the header
munging, the explanations for the munging; down to the software and
some 'custom scripts'. Surely you can understand my confusion?

Although I used to run across people all the time on usenet and irc
with heavily modified clients, it's rare these days on usenet for me.
Yet, there you are, as are the other two previously mentioned
posters.. All with the same traits. Surely you can understand my
confusion?

Many Usenet morons are provably racist in that they see only one
trait of a human and then their racist mind kicks in where they
ascribe their own racist thoughts to that person based on that one
trait.


In all actuality, I haven't met many usenet morons. You qualify as
one, based on your own post here, though:

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154114027600

The fact is, most of you racist Usenet posters are utter morons.
And yet, you _think_ you're utter geniuses.
That's how low on the DK scale you prove to be (time and again).


http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154114027600

Yea.. well..

This isn't the first time I've explained this to Usenet morons;
and it's likely not the last (since you Usenet morons will never
comprehend facts that don't fit into your racist mindset).


http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=154114027600

You seem to have trouble with facts. Factoid, whether you like it or
not, the post available by clicking that url does infact show that
you actually do have a reading comprehension issue. You aren't faking
or trying to troll with that. You actually do have trouble
understanding simple english. It's likely been a lifetime issue for
you, unless you've acquired it later in life due to a stroke or other
loss of proper oxygen and blood flow to the brain for an extended
period of time. It's one or the other. Possibly both. The latter
causing the effects to worsen, of course.

The problem on the FTP shares is feeding it the loginasswd
credentials. If you have advice on how that could work, that would
be helpful.


Infact, I do. Apologize for your previous assinine comments and I'll
share it with you.




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Old November 9th 18, 03:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 08:03:33 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

In all actuality, I haven't met many usenet morons. You qualify as
one, based on your own post here, though:


SUMMARY

This summary is written to help everyone understand the problem and
solutions that exist today that are of general use to everyone:
1. USB Mass Storage Mode = fail
2. MTP over USB = fail
3. LINUX over USB = pass (no caveats)
4. SMB over WiFi = fail
6. WEBDAV = pass (with caveats)
7. FTP = pass (with caveats)

o Connecting your newish (Android 4.3 and above) native Android mobile
device over USB or WiFi on Windows itself doesn't allow you to run commands
on the Android files and directories (basically it only allows minor
commands such as copy/delete/move, etc.).

o Connecting oldish (Android 4.2 and below) Android versions as USB Mass
Storage devices was totally different than MTP is today, but those versions
of Android are so old as to be out of the question in scope since they're
too old to be useful as a general/global/universal solution for everyone.

o Connecting over USB on Linux _does_ allow full freedom to run any Linux
command on the Android file system - so the problem is only with Windows.

o Since Windows is the problem, you'd think that SMB would be the solution,
since SMB is native on Windows; but there is no known freeware SMB server
currently that is on Google Play or F-Droid that will use TCP Port 445 or
that will use ports higher than port 1024 without being root, which negates
using SMB servers on Android as a general/global/universal solution for
everyone.

o Since speed is always of the essence, you'd think that USB is the way to
go, but the only known USB solution for mounting the Android file system
onto Windows as a drive letter is not freeware (MTPDrive) so that is out of
the question as a general/global/universal solution for everyone.

o The best solution, by far, that is of general use to everyone, albeit,
not over USB but over WiFi, requires only that the user install a freeware
WebDAV server on Android, and then the user can use native Windows commands
like "net use" (aka map network drive) to "connect" the Android file system
to Windows as, well, as "something" that has a drive letter. This
"something" is kind of sort of maybe almost as good as a drive letter, but
kind of sort of maybe not.

o Another solution that is of general use to everyone, albeit, not over USB
but over WiFi, requires not only that the user install a freeware FTP
server on Android, and also that the user install a freeware "FTP share
mounting" solution on Windows, of which there are a handful (not all of
which worked in my tests). The ones that worked seem to "mount" the Android
file system to Windows as a "real" drive letter, which enables all Windows
commands to run on the files.

While there are other protocols that can be employed over WiFi (e.g., HTTP,
SSH, proprietary, etc.), none are known to have general use advantages over
those summarized above.

As always if you know of working solutions, then please post with enough
information so that everyone can _implement_ those worling solutions based
on your post.
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Old November 10th 18, 04:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.freeware
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Arlen_Holder
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 08:03:33 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

In all actuality, I haven't met many usenet morons. You qualify
as one, based on your own post here, though:


SUMMARY


Erm... Arlen, I covered it, above.

This summary is written to help everyone understand the problem
and solutions that exist today that are of general use to
everyone:


You're being very misleading here.

1. USB Mass Storage Mode = fail


Wrong.

2. MTP over USB = fail


Wrong.

3. LINUX over USB = pass (no caveats)


Partially correct.

4. SMB over WiFi = fail


Ehm...I can't say it's a total fail or total pass. All I can tell you
is that you aren't thinking about it the right way.

7. FTP = pass (with caveats)


For you.

o Connecting your newish (Android 4.3 and above) native Android
mobile device over USB or WiFi on Windows itself doesn't allow you
to run commands on the Android files and directories (basically it
only allows minor commands such as copy/delete/move, etc.).


run commands?

o Connecting oldish (Android 4.2 and below) Android versions as
USB Mass Storage devices was totally different than MTP is today,
but those versions of Android are so old as to be out of the
question in scope since they're too old to be useful as a
general/global/universal solution for everyone.


Oh, no, you don't Arlen. You can't rule them out simply because you
didn't know they'd work as you'd like for a later one to.

o Connecting over USB on Linux _does_ allow full freedom to run
any Linux command on the Android file system - so the problem is
only with Windows.


You should specify that it is distro specific, and, include
instructions for those users (probably not necessary, if they're
running a distro that doesn't have it already they either don't want
it, or can easily install it themselves) who'd like to add it to
their distro which doesn't, by, default. More helpful this way,
you're ehm, 'guide' or whatever this is supposed to be, wouldn't you
agree?

o Since Windows is the problem, you'd think that SMB would be the
solution, since SMB is native on Windows; but there is no known
freeware SMB server currently that is on Google Play or F-Droid
that will use TCP Port 445 or that will use ports higher than port
1024 without being root, which negates using SMB servers on
Android as a general/global/universal solution for everyone.


I can't help but see you moving the goalposts, again. I'm not
surprised by this mind you. Rather, I'm disappointed.

o Since speed is always of the essence, you'd think that USB is
the way to go, but the only known USB solution for mounting the
Android file system onto Windows as a drive letter is not freeware
(MTPDrive) so that is out of the question as a
general/global/universal solution for everyone.


That's completely, untrue Arlen. You are intentionally at this point
I feel, spreading a completely untrue statement as if it were a
factual one. I thought you only dealt in facts, Arlen?

If so, why are you lying at this time? I am confused.

o The best solution, by far, that is of general use to everyone,
albeit, not over USB but over WiFi, requires only that the user
install a freeware WebDAV server on Android, and then the user can
use native Windows commands like "net use" (aka map network drive)
to "connect" the Android file system to Windows as, well, as
"something" that has a drive letter. This "something" is kind of
sort of maybe almost as good as a drive letter, but kind of sort
of maybe not.


You're completely thinking about this the wrong way, Arlen.

o Another solution that is of general use to everyone, albeit, not
over USB but over WiFi, requires not only that the user install a
freeware FTP server on Android, and also that the user install a
freeware "FTP share mounting" solution on Windows, of which there
are a handful (not all of which worked in my tests). The ones that
worked seem to "mount" the Android file system to Windows as a
"real" drive letter, which enables all Windows commands to run on
the files.


At this point, I'm comfortable with stating that the failures, while
possible to be entirely software failure, were most likely, operator
error caused. Going by the various things you've been posting to
various newsgroups I lurk in for sometime now.

While there are other protocols that can be employed over WiFi
(e.g., HTTP, SSH, proprietary, etc.), none are known to have
general use advantages over those summarized above.


If i'm not mistaken, you just claimed WebDAV was by far, the best
solution to your issue. Are you trying to show us with technical
knowledge concerning these matters that you're not only a n00b, but,
a very arrogant one at that?

As always if you know of working solutions, then please post with
enough information so that everyone can _implement_ those worling
solutions based on your post.


If everyone was interested in doing this, Arlen, someone else
(besides you) would inquire about doing it. I've yet to see a single
****ing post (I pulled several years back) asking about it. Only
repeated posts by you, trying to fish others into doing it for you,
and/or just coughing up what they already know about doing it.

So that you can add it to your 'guide' suggestions, whatever the ****
you're calling it (with no credit to original source whatsoever) and
happily give would be readers the impresssion that YOU (haha, right)
came up with the information you're offering. Some posters won't wise
up to what you're doing in a short period of time, or ever, and
others (such as myself) will and do at a certain point. You aren't
asking for help in so much as you're expecting someone else to do all
of it for you.

Whether they do or don't, they're but a single post away from
'offending' you and catching some of your canned garbage insults,
instead of a 'gee thanks for helping me with that' - I gave you the
benefit of the doubt and like some others, let you convince me that
you were/weren't an asshat troll out to play games and con others.
You yourself, by your own efforts, convinced me that what I've read
about you, and been warned about you, is true; they weren't
bull****ting me or trying to play stupid games. You really are what I
was told/read about you being. And, it's not a good thing to be.


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Old November 10th 18, 03:28 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Sorry fo jumping in, but I'v blocked Arlen for obvious reasons, but I do
have a question.

Why would I want to run Windows commands on Andriod files?

Why not just install Android in a virtual box on the PC and play to your
heart's content?
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Old November 10th 18, 04:27 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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wrote:
Sorry fo jumping in, but I'v blocked Arlen for obvious reasons, but I do
have a question.

Why would I want to run Windows commands on Andriod files?


He wants to *access* (not copy) the files which reside *on* his
Android device *from* his Windows system.

I.e. things like 'dir', 'ren', 'move', etc.. He calls these "Windows
commands" - which I think is wrong/confusing - or 'DOS commands' - which
I think is better/correct.

While (AFAIK) he didn't mention it, 'access' also means that *other*
programs - than DOS commands - can access the files on the Android
device.

For example I wanted (read: need to) to make - full and incremental -
backup of (the files on) my Android devices, by using a normal backup
program on my Windows system. For that, that backup program needs to
*access* - i.e, open/read/close/etc. - the files on the Android device.

As 'Arlen' mentioned, all methods to do this suck in some degree.
That's why I (but not Arlen) have decided to do things the other way
around and one-way 'sync' - which is effectively full/incremental backup
- from Android to Windows, by using a sync app on Android which syncs to
a SMB share.

So in itself, 'Arlen''s 'need' is legit, but he's clearly not
interested in any solutions, for reasons which are - hopefully - only
fully known to him.

Why not just install Android in a virtual box on the PC and play to your
heart's content?


See above.
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Old November 11th 18, 05:59 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10 Nov 2018 15:27:51 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

He wants to *access* (not copy) the files which reside *on* his
Android device *from* his Windows system.


Hi Frank Slootweg,
Happy Armistice Day!

You, of all the posters, are the only one who comprehends the problem set.

This is the summary of what works, to date, which is open to correction:
1. USB Mass Storage Mode = fail
2. MTP over USB = fail
3. LINUX over USB = pass (no caveats)
4. SMB over WiFi = fail
6. WEBDAV = pass (with caveats)
7. FTP = pass (with caveats)
8. ANDROID SOLUTIONS = pass (with caveats)

*What would be the holy grail, is if we can get #1 to work with freeware.*

While (AFAIK) he didn't mention it, 'access' also means that *other*
programs - than DOS commands - can access the files on the Android
device.


Indeed. If I want to run a graphical utility, such as a dup finder, or an
automated backup of some sort.

For example, you can run a simple duplicate finder on Windows that looks at
all the mounted hard drives, one of which can be an iOS device, another an
Android device, another a USB stick, etc.

For example I wanted (read: need to) to make - full and incremental -
backup of (the files on) my Android devices, by using a normal backup
program on my Windows system. For that, that backup program needs to
*access* - i.e, open/read/close/etc. - the files on the Android device.


Exactly. You are the only one, Frank Slootweg, who posted, who comprehends
the problem set.

Those who can't comprehend the problem set always seem to have a ton of
(imaginary) solutions. You, of all who posted, are the only one who _can_
propose a "real" solution.

To date, you've helped keep the clueless hoi polloi at bay (e.g., you've
explained to the clueless SMB & FTP-net-use fails far better than I can).

But, to my knowledge, Frank, the only "solution" you've proposed that we
didn't know before this thread was opened was that of DirectNetDrive
olderware, which worked perfectly .... for a period of time...

Since you may note that only you and I added any actual value to this
thread (only one out of 100 posts adds _any_ value), I will add value to
that suggestion with my ad-hoc observations direct from my log file (which
I keep for every freeware program I install).

===== cut here for a snippet of my directnetdrive log file =====
http://www.directnet-drive.net/

Hmmmnnmsdmmmsmmmm! ... is this DirectNetDrive stuff trialware?
When you install this program in the future, write down the date!

a. I installed it around 10/29/2018 (based on dates, which could be wrong)
(I didn't know it mattered at the time I installed.)
b. On 11/5/2018, it no longer works (it comes up completely black!)
I deleted it on 11/5 using CCleaner and gave up on it.

Then, when I tried to re-install it on 11/11/2018, in response to
a helpful post by Frank Slootweg, using the original installer,
the same installer GUI DEFINITELY recognized that it was there prior.

So CCleaner didn't really uninstall it fully.

First off, it didn't give the splash screen where you 'accept' conditions.
More importantly, the limited choices the installer gave we
o Install (grayed out)
o Repair (available)
o Remove (available)

So I selected remove, (which said we'd have to reboot),
and then when I clicked back on the installer (sans rebooting),
it _did_ bring me to the splash screen asking me to accept something.

To change registry stuff, I put it in C:\app\network\ftp\dnd\ instead of
C:\app\network\ftp\directnetdrive\ where I had put it previously.

While it still says "(unregistered)" at the top, the GUI was NOT
completely blacked out. Hmmmhmmmsssmmmmm... is it trialware?
===== cut here for a snippet of my directnetdrive log file =====

As 'Arlen' mentioned, all methods to do this suck in some degree.


Again, Frank Slootweg, what I like about you is:
o You don't claim to know of "magical" solutions
(For example, Diesel constantly claims imaginary magical solutions.)
o You comprehend the problem set
(Shemp's question is fair, because he doesn't yet know why it matters.)
o You explain the problem set to noobs far better than I can ever do!
(e.g., you explain it to the trolls way better than I ever can.)

Guys like Shemp, just because they can't comprehend a problem, call the
poster a troll, simply for trying to find a solution.

Guys like Shemp should spend their time comprehending the problem before
bothering to call others a troll simply for asking an on-topic question of
general import.

NOTE: Diesel claims the question has no import, which is patently
ridiculous, and which simply proves Diesel doesn't comprehend the problem
(which, of course, is why he claims his always imaginary magical
solutions).

That's why I (but not Arlen) have decided to do things the other way
around and one-way 'sync' - which is effectively full/incremental backup
- from Android to Windows, by using a sync app on Android which syncs to
a SMB share.


Hi Frank Slootweg,

We're similar in that we speak not of "imaginary" solutions; but of actual
solutions that actually work in the actual world (unlike Diesel's imaginary
ranting that he has "solutions" to the problem but he won't tell us them
because he wants to 'make us work for them').

So we're both solution oriented (where I always seek the universal solution
that works for everyone ... not just me ... as there is almost always a
workaround which is sub optimal as a universal solution).

*The main difference between you and me Frank, is that I'm an optimist.*

For example, I'm extremely hopeful that a freeware alternative to MTPDrive
will be found, which will instantly _solve_ all the issues, in one dash!
o Does freeware exist on Windows that will mount (as a drive letter) Android connected via USB as MTP?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.comp.freeware/TaIlIMK2Nuw/6S0bBlajBgAJ

For the record, the answer at the moment, to that question, is "No".

[Aside]
Diesel has constantly claimed in that thread above that he does have the
(magical?, imaginary?) solution to that problem, but, of course, he won't
tell us what that solution is because, in his own words, "he's going to
make us work for it".

All of Diesel's solutions, in the end, appear to be imaginary make believe.

No so you and me Frank:
o Your solutions, and mine, actually work.
o Our main difference is that I seek a _better_ solution that what is known
o We differ in general universal utility for all (not just for us)

In short:
o I have a solution that works just fine for me.
o You have a solution that works just fine for you.
o But only Diesel claims to have the general solution that works for
everyone - and he's not telling us what it is - until we "work for it".

So in itself, 'Arlen''s 'need' is legit, but he's clearly not
interested in any solutions, for reasons which are - hopefully - only
fully known to him.


Frank Slootweg,
While you comprehend technical detail, you don't comprehend motive.

My motive is clearly always for the benefit of everyone.

For example, as you are aware, I already have _multiple_ solutions that
work just fine in any specific case that I care about (e.g., MTPDrive works
fine, FTP as a drive works fine, WebDav as a network drive works fine,
etc.).

What I seek, _always_, Frank, is the universal solution for all.

For example, if we could get libMTP to "mount" a drive, _that_ might be a
universal solution - but - to date, all my attempts at using libMTP for
anything other than running libMTP commands on Android have failed.

This is the summary of what works, to date, which is open to correction:
1. USB Mass Storage Mode = fail
2. MTP over USB = fail
3. LINUX over USB = pass (no caveats)
4. SMB over WiFi = fail
6. WEBDAV = pass (with caveats)
7. FTP = pass (with caveats)
8. ANDROID SOLUTIONS = pass (with caveats)

Your solution, Frank, is #8, so you can name it better than I can in the
summary, but you have to admit it passes, with caveats, just as #6 & #7 do.

*What would be the holy grail, is if we can get #1 to work with freeware.*
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Old November 11th 18, 06:10 PM posted to alt.comp.freeware,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:59:19 -0000 (UTC), Arlen_Holder wrote:

You, of all the posters, are the only one who comprehends the problem set.

This is the summary of what works, to date, which is open to correction:
1. USB Mass Storage Mode = fail
2. MTP over USB = fail
3. LINUX over USB = pass (no caveats)
4. SMB over WiFi = fail
6. WEBDAV = pass (with caveats)
7. FTP = pass (with caveats)
8. ANDROID SOLUTIONS = pass (with caveats)

*What would be the holy grail, is if we can get #1 to work with freeware.*


Ooooooops. I mean #2 is the holy grail (as #1 is too old to be of use).
And we accidentally lost #5, which is libMTP freeware over USB.

Bearing in mind we seek the universal general solution,
this is the summary of what works, to date, which is open to correction:
1. USB Mass Storage Mode = mostly fail (above Android 4.2)
*2. MTP over USB = fail (except with payware, in which case it passes)*
3. LINUX over USB = passes (with the caveat of dual boot being needed)
4. SMB over WiFi = fail (due to Android non-root TCP port limitations)
5. libMTP over USB = mostly fail (due to lack of knowledge about libMTP)
6. WEBDAV = pass (with caveats, mostly due to drive letter peculiarities)
7. FTP = pass (with caveats, mostly due to drive letter peculiarities)
8. ANDROID SOLUTIONS = pass (with caveats, due to proprietary solutions)

*What would be the holy grail, is if we can get #2 to work with freeware.*

If anyone can come up with a universal (working!) solution using one of
those 8, _that_ would be a helpful technical post of interest to all.
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Old November 12th 18, 08:08 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Arlen_Holder
news alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

On 10 Nov 2018 15:27:51 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

He wants to *access* (not copy) the files which reside *on* his
Android device *from* his Windows system.


Hi Frank Slootweg,
Happy Armistice Day!

You, of all the posters, are the only one who comprehends the
problem set.


Bull****.

Exactly. You are the only one, Frank Slootweg, who posted, who
comprehends the problem set.


Bull****.

To date, you've helped keep the clueless hoi polloi at bay (e.g.,
you've explained to the clueless SMB & FTP-net-use fails far
better than I can).


Liar. You clearly didn't know what Frank and I were dicussing and
agreed upon. I went into greater detail concerning why net use
cannot, ever, be used with ftp in FTP's present form. You originally
thought it to be nothing more than a 'syntax error'; and I'll be
happy to provide the MID to your post, if you'd like to see it.

But, to my knowledge, Frank, the only "solution" you've proposed
that we didn't know before this thread was opened was that of
DirectNetDrive olderware, which worked perfectly .... for a period
of time...


I bet Frank knows of more than one solution, actually.

Since you may note that only you and I added any actual value to
this thread (only one out of 100 posts adds _any_ value), I will
add value to that suggestion with my ad-hoc observations direct
from my log file (which I keep for every freeware program I
install).


Uhh, You've added NO value to this thread. You've pimped and prodded
for others information concerning what you what to do with your
Android device.

Again, Frank Slootweg, what I like about you is:
o You don't claim to know of "magical" solutions
(For example, Diesel constantly claims imaginary magical
solutions.)


They aren't imaginary, Frank's using one himself AND he didn't learn
about it from me. Which goes to prove my previous point, Arlen. I'm
not the only one who knows how to do what you'd like to do. I'm
disinclined to acquiesce to your request. Means, "No"

o You explain the problem set to noobs far better than I can ever
do!


Agreed.

(e.g., you explain it to the trolls way better than I ever can.)


Haven't seen any trolls here. Still undecided if you actually are a
troll... or.. really as dumb as you're letting on here. Hard to know
at this point.

NOTE: Diesel claims the question has no import, which is patently
ridiculous, and which simply proves Diesel doesn't comprehend the
problem (which, of course, is why he claims his always imaginary
magical solutions).


I fully comprehend the problem you're having. The solutions I have
aren't imaginary nor are they magical. I'm really not one for magic
and other things that cannot be supported by science Arlen. Are you
sure you wanna keep claiming you've been around for decades, yet,
still don't have a clue who I am?

That's why I (but not Arlen) have decided to do things the other
way around and one-way 'sync' - which is effectively
full/incremental backup - from Android to Windows, by using a
sync app on Android which syncs to a SMB share.


Hi Frank Slootweg,

We're similar in that we speak not of "imaginary" solutions; but
of actual solutions that actually work in the actual world (unlike
Diesel's imaginary ranting that he has "solutions" to the problem
but he won't tell us them because he wants to 'make us work for
them').


First, you're full of **** as anyone who reads threads you create
mostly knows. Second, one of the solutions I know of is infact what
Franks doing; and, we didn't learn it from each other. I suspect
Frank thought as well as myself that method is 'common knowledge' if
you're a computer geek. Third, there's no us Arlen. It's just you,
and I, for reasons you already know, have refused to provide YOU any
specific information that will allow you to do what you've spent over
a month now trying to figure out. You wanted to act like an arsehole
towards me for no reason, I've treated you like one.

And, I bet, despite Frank forking over general knowledge of one
particular, reliable, way of doing it, you still won't be able to get
it up and going without further assistance.

So we're both solution oriented (where I always seek the universal
solution that works for everyone ... not just me ... as there is
almost always a workaround which is sub optimal as a universal
solution).


Bull****. You seek for others to do odd things for your sole benefit.
Then, you take all the relevant information from various sources,
and, distribute it as if it was all your own effort. Crediting nobody
for their contribution to your so called 'tribal-knowledge'.

*The main difference between you and me Frank, is that I'm an
optimist.*

For example, I'm extremely hopeful that a freeware alternative to
MTPDrive will be found, which will instantly _solve_ all the
issues, in one dash! o Does freeware exist on Windows that will
mount (as a drive letter) Android connected via USB as MTP?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....aIlIMK2Nuw/6S0
bBlajBgAJ

For the record, the answer at the moment, to that question, is
"No".


Ehh, For the record, the answer is Yes, but, you don't know what the
name of the app would be, or where you might find it. You're far too
arrogant to learn. I know this to be a fact.

[Aside]
Diesel has constantly claimed in that thread above that he does
have the (magical?, imaginary?) solution to that problem, but, of
course, he won't tell us what that solution is because, in his own
words, "he's going to make us work for it".


There's no us. I'm not making anyone except for you, and you alone,
work for it. I've been very clear about that, Arlen. There's no point
in you trying to claim otherwise.

All of Diesel's solutions, in the end, appear to be imaginary make
believe.


Obviously not. Frank uses one of them. rofl.

No so you and me Frank:
o Your solutions, and mine, actually work.


HAHAHAHAHA. You don't have a solution to your problem, yet. You
cannot mount drive letters for android internal/external memory.
Frank can. I can. But, you, cannot.

In short:
o I have a solution that works just fine for me.


So you keep asking how to do it because?

o You have a solution that works just fine for you.


A solution you'd like more specifics on, I'm sure. Because, it gives
you exactly what you've been asking for, for well over a ****ing
month now.

o But only Diesel claims to have the general solution that works
for everyone - and he's not telling us what it is - until we "work
for it".


Wrong again. I've specifically said I won't tell YOU.

So in itself, 'Arlen''s 'need' is legit, but he's clearly not
interested in any solutions, for reasons which are - hopefully -
only fully known to him.


Frank Slootweg,
While you comprehend technical detail, you don't comprehend
motive.

My motive is clearly always for the benefit of everyone.


Oh. Don't assume Frank is stupid, Arlen...I suspect Frank too has a
general idea of you at this point. I'd go so far as to say he's known
for a longer period of time than myself.

For example, if we could get libMTP to "mount" a drive, _that_
might be a universal solution - but - to date, all my attempts at
using libMTP for anything other than running libMTP commands on
Android have failed.


That was funny, have to admit. I owe pooh for the laugh. I really do.

1. USB Mass Storage Mode = fail
*What would be the holy grail, is if we can get #1 to work with
freeware.*


HEHEHEHE. What's it really worth to you, Arlen? Don't worry about
ignoring my question. I've finally come to the realization that you
have no interest in actually solving any of your problems. You want
me (or someone else) to do it all for you. And, for some silly
reason, you actually think being a smartass with reverse psy nonsense
is actually going to give you the expected results from me or anyone
else you've tried it with so far. Oh, how foolish you are...

Haven't you ever heard the expression, "you can catch more flies with
honey than vinegar", Arlen? Think on it a bit. If you learn what it
means and apply it, you'll accomplish more with greater ease.


In the meantime, good luck in your endeavors.

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Old November 13th 18, 12:27 AM posted to alt.comp.freeware,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do these 3 WiFi tests of a network location to a drive letter mapping work for you on Android 7.0 Nougat & Windows 10 using only freeware?

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:08:48 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

Liar.... You originally
thought it to be nothing more than a 'syntax error'; and I'll be
happy to provide the MID to your post, if you'd like to see it.


Hi Diesel,
I think I'm slowly, belatedly, beginning to better understand you now.
o I reported honestly that I was hoping I could figure out the syntax
o Then I reported honestly that I failed to get "net use" to work with FTP

You call that being a "liar".
I call it being honest.

It's interesting how you see those facts in a completely different way.
I need to study you more closely to comprehend _why_ you think that way.

I bet Frank knows of more than one solution, actually.


The great thing about Frank Slootweg is that he explained to the folks who
never comprehended the problem set, what the problem set is.

Frank understands it as well or better than I do, but Frank has much better
skills at dropping down to the level of the hoi polloi than can I.

Frank's explanations of the problem set were far better than mine, I agree.

Uhh, You've added NO value to this thread. You've pimped and prodded
for others information concerning what you what to do with your
Android device.


Hi Diesel,
I think I understand where you and I differ, having read what you've
written on this topic over the past few days.

You believe, apparently, that waving a mythical magical wand claiming all
sorts of capabilities is added value, while I believe that actual commands,
and their results, with annotated screenshots replete with URLs backing up
everything ... is the added value.

The difference, between your idea of value, and mine, is stellar:
o One is magical hand waving, while
o The other is cold hard reproducible facts.

No wonder you see no value in my posts.
o All my posts contained actual documented reproducible facts
o None of your posts contained any actual reproducible facts

Hence I agree with your supposition, Diesel, that we're polar opposites.

They aren't imaginary, Frank's using one himself AND he didn't learn
about it from me.


Hehhehheh... Hey Diesel ...

Do you want proof that Frank's so-called solution is entirely imaginary?

Which goes to prove my previous point, Arlen. I'm
not the only one who knows how to do what you'd like to do. I'm
disinclined to acquiesce to your request. Means, "No"


Hi Diesel,
Thanks for being wholly consistent in letting me know, again, that you have
the answers, but that you won't tell me them, because, I think it was that
you said "you wanted to make me beg for them", is that right?

I fully comprehend the problem you're having. The solutions I have
aren't imaginary nor are they magical.


Hi Diesel,

You're consistent, so that's good as you also said, at another point in
time, that you always had all the answers, but you won't tell them,
because, as I recall, you "wanted to make us work for them", is that right?

and I, for reasons you already know, have refused to provide YOU any
specific information that will allow you to do what you've spent over
a month now trying to figure out.


Hi Diesel,
I appreciate that you're consistent in that you know all the answers but
you won't tell them, because you want me to find them out for myself.

I appreciate the care you put into developing my skill set.

And, I bet, despite Frank forking over general knowledge of one
particular, reliable, way of doing it, you still won't be able to get
it up and going without further assistance.


Hi Diesel,
Let's not forget that I think Frank has already begun to prove his
so-called claimed solution will turn out to be wholly imaginary.

We still have time though on that...as there is an entire thread on that
topic alone, where I'm sure the proof will be in the taste of the pudding.

I'm funny that way, Diesel.
o All my solutions actually exist (where I provide proof of what I say).
o They're not imaginary, like those of so many others appear to be.

Ehh, For the record, the answer is Yes, but, you don't know what the
name of the app would be, or where you might find it. You're far too
arrogant to learn. I know this to be a fact.


Again, it's nice to know that only you know the answer to the question,
where, since you're so caring, you wont' tell anyone, unless they beg, and
even then, you want to make them work for it.

It's noble of you to be so consistently considerate (teach a man to fish).

Especially since I'm claiming that there are far too many wholly imaginary
magic-wand claims of solutions floating out there on the net - it's nice to
know you keep the very real world solutions you have tightly to yourself.

There's no us. I'm not making anyone except for you, and you alone,
work for it. I've been very clear about that, Arlen. There's no point
in you trying to claim otherwise.


I appreciate this, Diesel, that you, alone, have the solution to the
problem that nobody else seems to have the solution to, and that you want
to make me beg and work for it.

I appreciate your kindness and concern for others Diesel.
It's endearing. I'm kind of beginning to really like you Diesel.
Because you care so much.

Obviously not. Frank uses one of them. rofl.


Well, as I said, the proof is growing that Frank's solution will turn out
to be, yet again, wholly imaginary ... but let's see how the thread on that
very topic turns out before we claim that Frank just made it all up.

Even if Frank did wave his magic wand, I know you would never do that,
Diesel. I have faith in you that what you say is always fact.

HAHAHAHAHA. You don't have a solution to your problem, yet. You
cannot mount drive letters for android internal/external memory.
Frank can. I can. But, you, cannot.


Hi Diesel,
It's nice to know that you feel my documented methods, with screenshots,
urls, references, results, etc., are not a solution.... while ....

It's just as nice to know, by way of contrast, that both you and Frank,
sans any need for such things as actual proof, already have the solution.

It's nice to know actually, since,
o You wont' tell me unless I beg, and,
o even then, you won't tell me - because I have to work for it.

What's nice is that you and Frank have such wonderful solutions that work
so much better than mine do, since mine are documented, and yours exist
only in your minds.

I guess I'll have to beg or work harder for it, or I won't get them, right?

So you keep asking how to do it because?


Remember, we're seeking the universal solution.
o MTPDrive works pretty well over USB - but it's payware
o FTP shares over WiFi work pretty well
o WebDAV over WiFi works pretty well too

But we're always wanting to improve.

For example, the holy grail would be MTPDrive functionality using freeware.
I'm sure there is a way to do that - I just don't know what it is yet.

Of course, both you and Frank know what it is, but you won't tell us,
o We have to beg, and,
o Even then, you'll make us work for it.

Sigh.
I should never have upset you in the first place.
Mea culpa.

A solution you'd like more specifics on, I'm sure. Because, it gives
you exactly what you've been asking for, for well over a ****ing
month now.


Hi Diesel,
You're consistent at least, so it's nice to know you claim a solution that
works, but that nobody else on this planet knows what that solution is.

If I beg enough, and if I work hard enough for that solution, maybe then,
but only maybe, you'll tell me.

Boy ... I sure wish I hadn't upset you so much - otherwise you would have
told me how to get the MTP drive functionality over USB using freeware long
ago.

Wrong again. I've specifically said I won't tell YOU.


Hi Diesel,
I think you've been consistent in that
o You know the answer that nobody else seems to know, and,
o You won't tell me because I haven't groveled enough, and,
o Even if I did, you won't tell me until I've worked hard enough for it.

Now I'm rally kicking myself in the pants for having ****ed you off.

Oh. Don't assume Frank is stupid, Arlen...I suspect Frank too has a
general idea of you at this point. I'd go so far as to say he's known
for a longer period of time than myself.


I agree with you that Frank only appears to be stupid, but that he's not
actually stupid, which is why, for example, he hasn't yet answered the
question of what his (magical?) method is for doing what he says I've
ignored all along.

Only if he was stupid would he actually come up with that mythical magical
method he seems to claim he has - since - well - since I'd test it of
course.

And, once I tested it, if it really was a mythical magical method, then,
well, then Frank would have egg on his face for always claiming
capabilities that he really does not have.

Now I know you would never do that, Diesel, in that you'd never claim you
had a method that works without that method actually existing like Frank
does ... but that Frank. He's different from you.

That's why you and I get along so well Diesel, compared to Frank.

That was funny, have to admit. I owe pooh for the laugh. I really do.


I have to admit, Pooh sent me on a wild goose chase ... twice.
But I'm not sure if he meant to out of malice or just ignorance.
I don't know. I don't know Pooh well enough yet to know if he's smart, but
malicious, or less than smart and helpful but wrong all the time.

I dunno. I'll learn over time I guess.

HEHEHEHE. What's it really worth to you, Arlen? Don't worry about
ignoring my question. I've finally come to the realization that you
have no interest in actually solving any of your problems.


Hi Diesel,
I'm glad you asked "what it's worth to me" to have the answer to the
question which boils down, basically, to getting MTPDrive capability on
Window with freeware.

I realize only you and Frank have the answer to that question, where I must
apologize that I angered both of you to the point that
o You won't give me the answer you had all along
o Because I haven't begged enough for that answer, and, worse,
o I haven't worked hard enough for that answer,

So, for now, as they told Admiral Bull Halsey in the ending snippet...
"The world wonders..."

 




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