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im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about
asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. 
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January 11th 10, 03:04 AM
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The question is will your present Computer Chip fit into a 939 socket??
Or will you need to buy a new chip as well?? how much $$$ are you looking to spend?? what country are you in?? peter -- If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate or disruptive,please ignore it. If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-) "fender62" wrote in message ... im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62
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The question is will your present Computer Chip fit into a 939 socket??
Or will you need to buy a new chip as well?? how much $$$ are you looking to spend?? what country are you in?? peter -- If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate or disruptive,please ignore it. If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-) "fender62" wrote in message ... im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62
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January 11th 10, 03:53 AM
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fender62 wrote:
im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. Another question to consider, is what kind of video card will you be using ? Will the video card be AGP or PCI Express ? That makes a big difference, as to what motherboards you'll be able to find. Do you have a list of hardware you're trying to reuse ? Will you be reusing memory ? Do you have the processor already ? Give us some idea what you've got, to better frame a reuse strategy. Paul
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fender62 wrote:
im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. Another question to consider, is what kind of video card will you be using ? Will the video card be AGP or PCI Express ? That makes a big difference, as to what motherboards you'll be able to find. Do you have a list of hardware you're trying to reuse ? Will you be reusing memory ? Do you have the processor already ? Give us some idea what you've got, to better frame a reuse strategy. Paul
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I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200
RAM. Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card. Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while. -- Kenny Cargill "fender62" wrote in message ... im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62
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I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200
RAM. Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card. Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while. -- Kenny Cargill "fender62" wrote in message ... im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62
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January 11th 10, 02:00 PM
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...rd+&aqi=g6g-m4 fender62 wrote: im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc.
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...rd+&aqi=g6g-m4 fender62 wrote: im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc.
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so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow so ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i have two sata drives bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, if im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i see a used one. at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByte GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000+ & MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ?
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January 11th 10, 05:10 PM
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fender62 wrote:
Kenny;3368687 Wrote: I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200 RAM. Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card. Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while. -- Kenny Cargill "fender62" wrote in message ...- im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62 - sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 184 chips so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow so ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i have two sata drives bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, if im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i see a used one. at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByte GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000+ & MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ? A minor issue with the Abit, would be that the company is out of business. Sometimes it is hard to get info from their web site, like if you need drivers or the downloadable PDF user manual. The GA-K8N Ultra-9 has a PCI Express video card slot. There is no fan on the chipset to wear out. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=6&id=1593 The A8V Deluxe has an AGP 8X video slot. At this point, I don't see an AGP slot as being a good investment. This would be OK if you already had a good AGP card, and you had drivers for it that worked well. http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=tvpdgPNCPaABZRVU The MS-7185 would be PCI Express. It has an Nvidia chipset. And one of those 40mm fans on the chipset. http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=pr...=1&prod_no=203 http://www.msi.com/uploads/prod_4add...f6c6b61af3.jpg ******** The thing is, you can also find new stuff to compete with that. AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2x512KB L2, 6MB L3, Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDZ550WFGIBOX $99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103680 Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (with PCI Express video card slot) $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186165 http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000424 (Always check the CPU support chart, to determine compatibility) http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusup...202.0&cputype= "AM3 PhenomIIx2 3.1G Callisto 550 512K*2 80W P" 2x1GB (dual channel) memory kit $51 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134117 So for $215 you could go with new stuff, and faster at that. And that motherboard has its own graphics output, so you don't even need a PCI Express video card to test it when the motherboard arrives. You still need the PCI Express video card, to get good gaming performance, but if you don't have the video card on day one, you can still test your new system. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-186-165-S02?$S640W$ I'm not mentioning the new stuff because I like new stuff. It is the fact that you can get more processor for your money, with a socket more modern than S939. Back in the S939 days, AMD could charge a hefty price for their high end processors. Now, they're in the bargain basement on the new stuff. And you can still find memory to go with it, for a decent price. Paul
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January 11th 10, 05:10 PM
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fender62 wrote:
Kenny;3368687 Wrote: I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200 RAM. Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card. Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while. -- Kenny Cargill "fender62" wrote in message ...- im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62 - sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 184 chips so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow so ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i have two sata drives bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, if im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i see a used one. at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByte GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000+ & MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ? A minor issue with the Abit, would be that the company is out of business. Sometimes it is hard to get info from their web site, like if you need drivers or the downloadable PDF user manual. The GA-K8N Ultra-9 has a PCI Express video card slot. There is no fan on the chipset to wear out. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=6&id=1593 The A8V Deluxe has an AGP 8X video slot. At this point, I don't see an AGP slot as being a good investment. This would be OK if you already had a good AGP card, and you had drivers for it that worked well. http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=tvpdgPNCPaABZRVU The MS-7185 would be PCI Express. It has an Nvidia chipset. And one of those 40mm fans on the chipset. http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=pr...=1&prod_no=203 http://www.msi.com/uploads/prod_4add...f6c6b61af3.jpg ******** The thing is, you can also find new stuff to compete with that. AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2x512KB L2, 6MB L3, Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDZ550WFGIBOX $99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103680 Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (with PCI Express video card slot) $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186165 http://www.foxconnchannel.com/produc...D=en-us0000424 (Always check the CPU support chart, to determine compatibility) http://www.foxconnsupport.com/cpusup...202.0&cputype= "AM3 PhenomIIx2 3.1G Callisto 550 512K*2 80W P" 2x1GB (dual channel) memory kit $51 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134117 So for $215 you could go with new stuff, and faster at that. And that motherboard has its own graphics output, so you don't even need a PCI Express video card to test it when the motherboard arrives. You still need the PCI Express video card, to get good gaming performance, but if you don't have the video card on day one, you can still test your new system. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-186-165-S02?$S640W$ I'm not mentioning the new stuff because I like new stuff. It is the fact that you can get more processor for your money, with a socket more modern than S939. Back in the S939 days, AMD could charge a hefty price for their high end processors. Now, they're in the bargain basement on the new stuff. And you can still find memory to go with it, for a decent price. Paul
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see what i can get, and just go for new becuase im on a budget can you recommend the cheapest but fast setup i could buy if its possible it can be done
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January 12th 10, 08:55 PM
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fender62 wrote:
Paul;3368755 Wrote: fender62 wrote:- Kenny;3368687 Wrote: - I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200 RAM. Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card. Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while. -- Kenny Cargill "fender62" wrote in message ...- im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62 -- sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 184 chips so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow so ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i have two sata drives bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, if im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i see a used one. at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByte GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000+ & MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ? - A minor issue with the Abit, would be that the company is out of business. Sometimes it is hard to get info from their web site, like if you need drivers or the downloadable PDF user manual. The GA-K8N Ultra-9 has a PCI Express video card slot. There is no fan on the chipset to wear out. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=6&id=1593 The A8V Deluxe has an AGP 8X video slot. At this point, I don't see an AGP slot as being a good investment. This would be OK if you already had a good AGP card, and you had drivers for it that worked well. http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=tvpdgPNCPaABZRVU The MS-7185 would be PCI Express. It has an Nvidia chipset. And one of those 40mm fans on the chipset. http://tinyurl.com/yksa2er http://tinyurl.com/ydf8tlf ******** The thing is, you can also find new stuff to compete with that. AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2x512KB L2, 6MB L3, Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDZ550WFGIBOX $99 http://tinyurl.com/pe3aow Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (with PCI Express video card slot) $65 http://tinyurl.com/yeazjqe http://tinyurl.com/ykopbun (Always check the CPU support chart, to determine compatibility) http://tinyurl.com/yeonesu "AM3 PhenomIIx2 3.1G Callisto 550 512K*2 80W P" 2x1GB (dual channel) memory kit $51 http://tinyurl.com/y9csqus So for $215 you could go with new stuff, and faster at that. And that motherboard has its own graphics output, so you don't even need a PCI Express video card to test it when the motherboard arrives. You still need the PCI Express video card, to get good gaming performance, but if you don't have the video card on day one, you can still test your new system. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-186-165-S02?$S640W$ I'm not mentioning the new stuff because I like new stuff. It is the fact that you can get more processor for your money, with a socket more modern than S939. Back in the S939 days, AMD could charge a hefty price for their high end processors. Now, they're in the bargain basement on the new stuff. And you can still find memory to go with it, for a decent price. Paul thanks for advice ill ditch agp slot m/b's perhaps ill just sell off my old stuff see what i can get, and just go for new becuase im on a budget can you recommend the cheapest but fast setup i could buy if its possible it can be done The motherboard I picked out, was $65. How much cheaper do you want to go ? If you go too cheap, you'll waste money on shipping back the dead ones. You can use the Newegg site for refining your selection. By using the customer reviews, you can avoid the really bad stuff. (The customers will report whether the board they got was DOA, or whether it was unstable and so on.) Then, if you can get a better price elsewhere (which is possible), you can pick the cheapest that way. In terms of picking fast processors, you have clock speed and number of cores as factors. Number of cores only pays off, if a game were to use all the cores. An example of a game that tries hard, is Microsoft Flight Simulator FSX. But other games might be just as happy on a dual core processor (the game I like to play, mainly runs on one core and only gets a bit of benefit from a second core). I picked the $99 processor, as the best compromise between cheap and powerful. In the list here, you can see other processors with faster clock rates than the 550. The Phenom II X4 965 (quad core) is $195. http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx HDX550WFK2DGM AMD Phenom II X2 550 3100 80 W --- Fast dual HDZ550WFK2DGI AMD Phenom II X2 550 3100 80 W ADV6000IAA5DO AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3100 89 W HDX955FBK4DGM AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 125 W HDZ955FBK4DGI AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 125 W N/A AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3200 125 W --- Fast hot dual HDZ965FBK4DGM AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400 125 W HDZ965FBK4DGI AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400 140 W The thing is, once you go over 89 watts, you have to be more careful in the motherboard selection. By staying below 89W, more motherboards are candidates. There are some motherboards which handle 140W processors, but the Vcore regulator has to have an extra phase or two, or a beefier set of coils, to handle that. By me picking an 80W processor, I'm trying to avoid potential Vcore issues. You can usually detect a weak Vcore, by looking at the CPU support chart for the motherboard - if there are no 140W processors listed as being compatible, then you know the Vcore isn't super-strong. *Always* check the CPU compatiblity chart on the motherboard manufacturer site, before you buy. I was trying to beat the performance of an S939 system, without breaking the bank. If you want to spend the $195 on a processor, then verify that $65 motherboard can handle it. Paul
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fender62 wrote:
Paul;3368755 Wrote: fender62 wrote:- Kenny;3368687 Wrote: - I'm using a Gigabyte GAK9-NSC-939 with an Athlon XP 3200 and 3 GB PC3200 RAM. Added GeForce 6600 AGP graphics. Creative PCI soundcard and a Firewire card. Very happy with it and won't feel the need to upgrade for a while. -- Kenny Cargill "fender62" wrote in message ...- im on a budget so im looking to buy a used 939 m/b there's a few about asus abit msi gigbyte etc what was considered the best of them when they were new, being as ill be buying one used what one would anyone recommend for a bit of game playing half life 2 etc. -- fender62 -- sorry for the confusion, i have a 1gb 184 mem card 939 takes 184 chips so ill use that i have an old geforce mx4000 agp thats a little slow so ill get a used pci graphics card the best used one i can afford i have two sata drives bought a whild back ill use them, i dont have cpu yet but people are selling there 939 m/b with the cpu on fleabay so ill do it that way, if im buying a uesed m/b with a cpu what the best one for the 939 if i see a used one. at the mo im looking at a few used m/b - Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi/GigaByte GA-K8N Ultra-9 /ENDING SOON ASUS A8V Deluxe/Athlon 64 x2 core 4400+ on MSI 7185/AMD Athlon 64 3000+ & MSI K8N Neo2 what one is best ? - A minor issue with the Abit, would be that the company is out of business. Sometimes it is hard to get info from their web site, like if you need drivers or the downloadable PDF user manual. The GA-K8N Ultra-9 has a PCI Express video card slot. There is no fan on the chipset to wear out. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...?cid=6&id=1593 The A8V Deluxe has an AGP 8X video slot. At this point, I don't see an AGP slot as being a good investment. This would be OK if you already had a good AGP card, and you had drivers for it that worked well. http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=tvpdgPNCPaABZRVU The MS-7185 would be PCI Express. It has an Nvidia chipset. And one of those 40mm fans on the chipset. http://tinyurl.com/yksa2er http://tinyurl.com/ydf8tlf ******** The thing is, you can also find new stuff to compete with that. AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz 2x512KB L2, 6MB L3, Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor HDZ550WFGIBOX $99 http://tinyurl.com/pe3aow Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (with PCI Express video card slot) $65 http://tinyurl.com/yeazjqe http://tinyurl.com/ykopbun (Always check the CPU support chart, to determine compatibility) http://tinyurl.com/yeonesu "AM3 PhenomIIx2 3.1G Callisto 550 512K*2 80W P" 2x1GB (dual channel) memory kit $51 http://tinyurl.com/y9csqus So for $215 you could go with new stuff, and faster at that. And that motherboard has its own graphics output, so you don't even need a PCI Express video card to test it when the motherboard arrives. You still need the PCI Express video card, to get good gaming performance, but if you don't have the video card on day one, you can still test your new system. http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/13-186-165-S02?$S640W$ I'm not mentioning the new stuff because I like new stuff. It is the fact that you can get more processor for your money, with a socket more modern than S939. Back in the S939 days, AMD could charge a hefty price for their high end processors. Now, they're in the bargain basement on the new stuff. And you can still find memory to go with it, for a decent price. Paul thanks for advice ill ditch agp slot m/b's perhaps ill just sell off my old stuff see what i can get, and just go for new becuase im on a budget can you recommend the cheapest but fast setup i could buy if its possible it can be done The motherboard I picked out, was $65. How much cheaper do you want to go ? If you go too cheap, you'll waste money on shipping back the dead ones. You can use the Newegg site for refining your selection. By using the customer reviews, you can avoid the really bad stuff. (The customers will report whether the board they got was DOA, or whether it was unstable and so on.) Then, if you can get a better price elsewhere (which is possible), you can pick the cheapest that way. In terms of picking fast processors, you have clock speed and number of cores as factors. Number of cores only pays off, if a game were to use all the cores. An example of a game that tries hard, is Microsoft Flight Simulator FSX. But other games might be just as happy on a dual core processor (the game I like to play, mainly runs on one core and only gets a bit of benefit from a second core). I picked the $99 processor, as the best compromise between cheap and powerful. In the list here, you can see other processors with faster clock rates than the 550. The Phenom II X4 965 (quad core) is $195. http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx HDX550WFK2DGM AMD Phenom II X2 550 3100 80 W --- Fast dual HDZ550WFK2DGI AMD Phenom II X2 550 3100 80 W ADV6000IAA5DO AMD Athlon X2 6000+ 3100 89 W HDX955FBK4DGM AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 125 W HDZ955FBK4DGI AMD Phenom II X4 955 3200 125 W N/A AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3200 125 W --- Fast hot dual HDZ965FBK4DGM AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400 125 W HDZ965FBK4DGI AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400 140 W The thing is, once you go over 89 watts, you have to be more careful in the motherboard selection. By staying below 89W, more motherboards are candidates. There are some motherboards which handle 140W processors, but the Vcore regulator has to have an extra phase or two, or a beefier set of coils, to handle that. By me picking an 80W processor, I'm trying to avoid potential Vcore issues. You can usually detect a weak Vcore, by looking at the CPU support chart for the motherboard - if there are no 140W processors listed as being compatible, then you know the Vcore isn't super-strong. *Always* check the CPU compatiblity chart on the motherboard manufacturer site, before you buy. I was trying to beat the performance of an S939 system, without breaking the bank. If you want to spend the $195 on a processor, then verify that $65 motherboard can handle it. Paul
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