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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
Several days ago, I got "BOOTMGR IS MISSING".
Restored from a known good image, and all was well for a couple days. Than it happened again. This time I booted from the Win 7 install disk and went at it with "System Repair". Again... back in business... Today it happened a third time and, when I cued the image restore, I noticed that my imaging utility (ShadowProtect) had also queued a second task it called "Boot Repair". Now we are up again... but it seems to me like the handwriting is on the wall. But for what? - Could my system have, at some past time, degraded into something that is susceptible to this problem - and the restored images have that vulnerability - but it just takes awhile... - Could the SSD be on the way out? On one hand, CHKDSK on both the SSD's partitions - C: (System) and D: (Data) - reports no problems. OTOH, Hard Disk Sentinel reports: -------------------------------------------------------------------- "There are 12 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area. At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further. It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there. The TRIM feature of the SSD is supported and enabled for optimal performance. It is recommended to continuously monitor the hard disk status. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Can an SSD get flaky without totally failing ? My understanding was that one of the downsides of SSDs was catastrophic failure as opposed to gradual failure. This is a decent-quality SSD: Intel SSDSC2BW120A4 The Bottom Line: Seems like I have two non-mutually-exclusive options - Rebuild the system from a fresh install. - Replace the SSD. Would you be thinking about one, the other, or both ? -- Pete Cresswell |
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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
On 11/20/2015 7:14 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
OTOH, Hard Disk Sentinel reports: -------------------------------------------------------------------- "There are 12 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area. At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further. It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there. The TRIM feature of the SSD is supported and enabled for optimal performance. If you were experiencing no problems, just ran a check and found "12 bad sectors" I probably would not worry about it... however you are having problems so I'd be concerned for sure. Before condemning the drive I'd run a RAM test...if it finds any problems at all, you might as well terminate the test and replace the RAM |
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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Several days ago, I got "BOOTMGR IS MISSING". Restored from a known good image, and all was well for a couple days. Than it happened again. This time I booted from the Win 7 install disk and went at it with "System Repair". Today it happened a third time and, when I cued the image restore, I noticed that my imaging utility (ShadowProtect) had also queued a second task it called "Boot Repair". What Philo said plus reseat the cables on both ends and ensure that it is not running hot. |
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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
Per philo:
Before condemning the drive I'd run a RAM test...if it finds any problems at all, you might as well terminate the test and replace the RAM Windows' 2-pass RAM test found no problems, so I guess it's time for another SSD - given that a system re-build is going to suck up a lot of man hours an Tom's Hardware's best-rated 240 is only $120.... and that my current 100-gigger is pretty close to being tapped out space-wise between C: (System) and D: (Data that cannot be stored on the NAS). viz: http://tinyurl.com/prp4e7j -- Pete Cresswell |
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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
Per pjp:
Get some utility shows the SMART info for the drive. You'll likely see some values should be zero but aren't. That's enough that assuming warranty is still good they'll replace it. If it's out of warranty I'd be looking at another drive replacing it and perhaps using it in an enclosure as some temporary non critical backup drive. HdSentinel's SMART info: http://tinyurl.com/pj8l3mn Nothing jumps out at me - but I don't know much.... Also have you noticed the disk capacity slightly less each time you've fixed the problem? I'm wondering because if the SSD has bad places then it might be remapping them and if it runs out of that ability it perchances just maps out the bad places which would make drive appear less? Unsure about this, just wondering out loud Capacity seems tb the same... I'm going with a new SSD - with the expectation that I may also have to rebuild the system. -- Pete Cresswell |
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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
On 2015-11-21 13:03, David E. Ross wrote:
On 11/21/2015 8:36 AM, pjp wrote: In article , lid says... Several days ago, I got "BOOTMGR IS MISSING". Restored from a known good image, and all was well for a couple days. Than it happened again. This time I booted from the Win 7 install disk and went at it with "System Repair". Again... back in business... Today it happened a third time and, when I cued the image restore, I noticed that my imaging utility (ShadowProtect) had also queued a second task it called "Boot Repair". Now we are up again... but it seems to me like the handwriting is on the wall. But for what? - Could my system have, at some past time, degraded into something that is susceptible to this problem - and the restored images have that vulnerability - but it just takes awhile... - Could the SSD be on the way out? On one hand, CHKDSK on both the SSD's partitions - C: (System) and D: (Data) - reports no problems. OTOH, Hard Disk Sentinel reports: -------------------------------------------------------------------- "There are 12 bad sectors on the disk surface. The contents of these sectors were moved to the spare area. At this point, warranty replacement of the disk is not yet possible, only if the health drops further. It is recommended to examine the log of the disk regularly. All new problems found will be logged there. The TRIM feature of the SSD is supported and enabled for optimal performance. It is recommended to continuously monitor the hard disk status. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Can an SSD get flaky without totally failing ? My understanding was that one of the downsides of SSDs was catastrophic failure as opposed to gradual failure. This is a decent-quality SSD: Intel SSDSC2BW120A4 The Bottom Line: Get some utility shows the SMART info for the drive. You'll likely see some values should be zero but aren't. That's enough that assuming warranty is still good they'll replace it. If it's out of warranty I'd be looking at another drive replacing it and perhaps using it in an enclosure as some temporary non critical backup drive. Also have you noticed the disk capacity slightly less each time you've fixed the problem? I'm wondering because if the SSD has bad places then it might be remapping them and if it runs out of that ability it perchances just maps out the bad places which would make drive appear less? Unsure about this, just wondering out loud Nirsoft has a SMART viewer at http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/disk_smart_view.html. The author says he checked his disk with Hard Disk Sentinel, possibly the best SMART tool on Windows... -- ! _\|/_ Sylvain / ! (o o) Member-+-David-Suzuki-Fdn/EFF/Red+Cross/Planetary-Society-+- oO-( )-Oo Do bl Sp ce is a v ry saf me hod of driv compr s ion! |
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"BOOTMGR IS MISSING" - SDD On The Way Out ?
In message , David E. Ross
writes: [] Nirsoft has a SMART viewer at http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/disk_smart_view.html. And PassMark has (a free) one at http://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Although I may disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to hear me tell you how wrong you are. |
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