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Old November 25th 13, 09:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jackson
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Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.

Thanks.
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Old November 25th 13, 09:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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Jackson wrote:
Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.

Thanks.


Tutorial.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

Post back if that approach isn't working.

You need an optical disc of some sort, to boot off of,
to do that procedure. When the laptop was new, the computer
would prompt you on the screen, to make recovery CD/DVD discs.
One of those discs, is a 200MB boot CD that gets you to
the recovery console. And the pictures in the above,
look similar to the recovery console. (On my laptop,
I made four DVDs and one CD, and the CD is for fixing
this problem. I burned that media, as soon as I
got my Acer laptop.)

That means, there are two disc types you could boot from.
A 3GB+ DVD with official Windows install on it. (The laptop
doesn't come with one of those.) Look for X17-24209.iso in
Google, to find copies of the official Windows installer
DVD that comes from the digitalriver commercial site.
The X17-24209.iso is Home Premium X64 patched to SP1
service pack level. A user who left automatic updates
running, is likely patched up to SP1. To get to
the recovery console, you don't absolutely have to
use that, but Microsoft has caused some of the other
downloadable images of the 200MB thing, to be removed.

The 200MB recovery CD, the one the laptop told you to
burn, is a lot less hassle. But if the computer
is broken, and you didn't burn one of those, then
you're kinda in a spot.

*Note - startup repairs don't always work. I broke
my Windows 7 once, and repeating the above repair
procedure three times in a row, did not fix it.
I had to restore from backups to get a working laptop.

Good luck,

Paul
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Old November 25th 13, 10:49 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:32:54 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.



He is trying to install improperly. Tell him that he has to boot from
the installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installation.
And by the way, he did not need to first format the drive. If he
booted from the installation DVD and followed the prompts for a clean
installation, it would have done it for him.

And by the way, reinstalling Windows because of a virus infection is
almost always way overkill. There are some exceptions, but usually
removing the virus is much easier and just as good.

  #4  
Old November 25th 13, 10:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jackson
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Paul wrote:
Jackson wrote:
Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing"
error when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've
searched that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be
repaired/restored from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.

Thanks.


Tutorial.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/


Post back if that approach isn't working.

You need an optical disc of some sort, to boot off of,
to do that procedure. When the laptop was new, the computer
would prompt you on the screen, to make recovery CD/DVD discs.
One of those discs, is a 200MB boot CD that gets you to
the recovery console. And the pictures in the above,
look similar to the recovery console. (On my laptop,
I made four DVDs and one CD, and the CD is for fixing
this problem. I burned that media, as soon as I
got my Acer laptop.)

That means, there are two disc types you could boot from.
A 3GB+ DVD with official Windows install on it. (The laptop
doesn't come with one of those.) Look for X17-24209.iso in
Google, to find copies of the official Windows installer
DVD that comes from the digitalriver commercial site.
The X17-24209.iso is Home Premium X64 patched to SP1
service pack level. A user who left automatic updates
running, is likely patched up to SP1. To get to
the recovery console, you don't absolutely have to
use that, but Microsoft has caused some of the other
downloadable images of the 200MB thing, to be removed.

The 200MB recovery CD, the one the laptop told you to
burn, is a lot less hassle. But if the computer
is broken, and you didn't burn one of those, then
you're kinda in a spot.

*Note - startup repairs don't always work. I broke
my Windows 7 once, and repeating the above repair
procedure three times in a row, did not fix it.
I had to restore from backups to get a working laptop.

Good luck,

Paul


Thank you so much for your detailed responce Paul. Unfortunately when
my buddy wiped the drive he reformatted over the recovery partition. I
suppose I should say that it's dual core Intel with 4gb of ram.

Thak you again. Will give your suggestions a try.
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Old November 25th 13, 11:38 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jackson
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:32:54 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.



He is trying to install improperly. Tell him that he has to boot from
the installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installation.
And by the way, he did not need to first format the drive. If he
booted from the installation DVD and followed the prompts for a clean
installation, it would have done it for him.

And by the way, reinstalling Windows because of a virus infection is
almost always way overkill. There are some exceptions, but usually
removing the virus is much easier and just as good.


Thanks Ken. Overkill is kinda what I thought. Unfortunately the
bootmgr error is showing up at the start of the installation and then
the hard drive won't take the install at all.
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Old November 26th 13, 01:17 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_4_]
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:38:14 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:32:54 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.



He is trying to install improperly. Tell him that he has to boot from
the installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installation.
And by the way, he did not need to first format the drive. If he
booted from the installation DVD and followed the prompts for a clean
installation, it would have done it for him.

And by the way, reinstalling Windows because of a virus infection is
almost always way overkill. There are some exceptions, but usually
removing the virus is much easier and just as good.


Thanks Ken. Overkill is kinda what I thought. Unfortunately the
bootmgr error is showing up at the start of the installation and then
the hard drive won't take the install at all.



Then he's installing incorrectly. Again, he has to boot from the
installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installation.

  #7  
Old November 26th 13, 03:08 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
philo [_3_]
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On 11/25/2013 02:32 PM, Jackson wrote:
Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.

Thanks.




Since he seems to have a partial installation , there is no way to
repair it.

A new install really goes quite fast...
Just boot with the DVD and delete /all/ partitions...then select
"install" and the installer will do the rest.


After the reboot , there will be a few simple questions and that's about it.
  #8  
Old November 26th 13, 03:58 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jason
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:17:57 -0700 "Ken Blake" wrote
in article

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:38:14 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:32:54 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.


He is trying to install improperly. Tell him that he has to boot from
the installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installation.
And by the way, he did not need to first format the drive. If he
booted from the installation DVD and followed the prompts for a clean
installation, it would have done it for him.

And by the way, reinstalling Windows because of a virus infection is
almost always way overkill. There are some exceptions, but usually
removing the virus is much easier and just as good.


Thanks Ken. Overkill is kinda what I thought. Unfortunately the
bootmgr error is showing up at the start of the installation and then
the hard drive won't take the install at all.



Then he's installing incorrectly. Again, he has to boot from the
installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installati


The error indicates that he's trying to boot from the wrong device.
Booting from the CD should work ok.
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Old November 26th 13, 04:00 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
R. C. White
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Hi, Jackson.

It's kind of a "chicken or egg" problem. Bootmgr is the utility that finds
the Windows startup files on the disk on every restart. So, without
bootmgr, Windows never gets loaded and started at all. Thus, there's no way
that Windows itself can install Bootmgr; it MUST be done the other way
'round.

So, as the others said, to install Bootmgr you must boot from something that
DOES NOT TRY TO START WINDOWS. The Windows installation DVD is such a
device. It has the onboard smarts to talk directly to the hardware -
without having to use Windows to do so - and to install Bootmgr onto the
hard disk, along with just enough of Windows to get it started and run
Setup.exe to finish the installation.

RC
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"Jackson" wrote in message ...

Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:32:54 -0500, Jackson wrote:

Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.



He is trying to install improperly. Tell him that he has to boot from
the installation DVD and follow the prompts for a clean installation.
And by the way, he did not need to first format the drive. If he
booted from the installation DVD and followed the prompts for a clean
installation, it would have done it for him.

And by the way, reinstalling Windows because of a virus infection is
almost always way overkill. There are some exceptions, but usually
removing the virus is much easier and just as good.


Thanks Ken. Overkill is kinda what I thought. Unfortunately the
bootmgr error is showing up at the start of the installation and then
the hard drive won't take the install at all.

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Old November 26th 13, 11:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 19:49:08 -0700, Ken1943 wrote:

On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:08:27 -0600, philoÂ* wrote:

On 11/25/2013 02:32 PM, Jackson wrote:
Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing"
error when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've
searched that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be
repaired/restored from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the
OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.

Thanks.




Since he seems to have a partial installation , there is no way to
repair it.

A new install really goes quite fast...
Just boot with the DVD and delete /all/ partitions...then select
"install" and the installer will do the rest.


After the reboot , there will be a few simple questions and that's about
it.


He didn't "wipe" the drive otherwise he wouldn't have this stuff happen
in the first place.


KenW


I'm glad all you folks can offer such helpful advice when we really know
nothing about what is going on:
1. What was the original hd layout. My Dell has a small Dell utility
partition, a recovery partition then the main os partition, which I later
split. The machine boots to the recovery partition (marked active)
2. He wiped the drive, but what did he really wipe, formatting won't wipe
the drive just a partition - we don't know.
3. From what is he trying to boot, is the DVD the one of a set supplied
with the new machine, I have that (never used it) and that will do a
complete recovery including a re-partition. But OEM's don't usually supply
such things these days, although I believe they will supply on request.

Once your friend gets the machine up and running, do make an image backup
of the os and those other needed partitions. Macrium supply a freebie that
does all that in one operation. Remember to make a recovery CD or DVD, you
only do that once. Even if when you can restore to as purchased, you then
have to reload programs, updates etc.

If one is going to do image backups, the question arises, do we need that
recovery and utility partition. Personally I leave them as is, like I
said, the machine boots to the recovery partition. With today's large hd's,
saving space isn't much of a consideration. What can be a problem is
stealing two of the four available primary partitions but there are
usually ways to get around this.
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Old November 27th 13, 07:03 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Dave wrote:

I'm glad all you folks can offer such helpful advice when we really know
nothing about what is going on:
1. What was the original hd layout. My Dell has a small Dell utility
partition, a recovery partition then the main os partition, which I later
split. The machine boots to the recovery partition (marked active)


What's the purpose of booting to a recovery partition?

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Old November 27th 13, 09:11 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Dave wrote:

I'm glad all you folks can offer such helpful advice when we really know
nothing about what is going on:
1. What was the original hd layout. My Dell has a small Dell utility
partition, a recovery partition then the main os partition, which I later
split. The machine boots to the recovery partition (marked active)


What's the purpose of booting to a recovery partition?


The bootloader is on the Recovery Partition which includes the
instructions to load Windows.

It also provides the ability to use the F8 option to recover to factory
condition.


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Old November 27th 13, 04:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Jackson
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Jackson wrote:
Greetings,

My friend picked up a nasty virus so he wiped the drive and tried to
reinstall Win7. Now he's getting the dreaded "Bootmgr is Missing" error
when trying to install Win7 again so it won't even load. I've searched
that it can be repaired but I'm wondering if it can be repaired/restored
from the WIN7 disc before attempting to install the OS.

Can't seem to find the answer.

Thanks.


Just wanted to let you all know that bootrec /fixboot did the trick from
the repair command prompt.

Thank you all for your suggestions. You guys are great.
  #14  
Old November 27th 13, 07:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 03:11:02 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Dave wrote:

I'm glad all you folks can offer such helpful advice when we really know
nothing about what is going on:
1. What was the original hd layout. My Dell has a small Dell utility
partition, a recovery partition then the main os partition, which I later
split. The machine boots to the recovery partition (marked active)


What's the purpose of booting to a recovery partition?


The bootloader is on the Recovery Partition which includes the
instructions to load Windows.

It also provides the ability to use the F8 option to recover to factory
condition.


Interesting, thanks. Like the OP, I also have a Dell, but the bootloader
apparently wasn't on the recovery partition because I blew that partition
away without causing any boot issues.

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Char Jackson
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Old November 27th 13, 07:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:33:41 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 03:11:02 -0500, "...winston"
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:26:27 +0000 (UTC), Dave wrote:

I'm glad all you folks can offer such helpful advice when we really know
nothing about what is going on:
1. What was the original hd layout. My Dell has a small Dell utility
partition, a recovery partition then the main os partition, which I later
split. The machine boots to the recovery partition (marked active)

What's the purpose of booting to a recovery partition?


The bootloader is on the Recovery Partition which includes the
instructions to load Windows.

It also provides the ability to use the F8 option to recover to factory
condition.


Interesting, thanks. Like the OP, I also have a Dell, but the bootloader
apparently wasn't on the recovery partition because I blew that partition
away without causing any boot issues.


My impression is that the boot loader resides on the System partition.

Or do I meant the Boot partition? Probably not, but Microsoft's
nomenclature is confusing in this area. It's not of any day-to-day
importance to me, so I don't bother to keep it straight...

Either way, not the Recovery partition.

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