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CD writer and DVD/CD rom can't be shared in workgroup
What a nonsense! Using modern GbE network hardware with throughoutput
of 125 MB/sec (OK, 117 MB/sec in single direction in practice) is capable of handling even 22 MB/sec of 16X DVD burning speed with absolutely no problem! And all of the devices manufactures during last 2-3 years have buffer underrung hardware preventing them from producing "coasters" if for some reason data stream would be lost (in your particular case network utilization would jump unexpected). Somebody in this group has already mentioned our iSCSI target and initiator software allowing to share storage devices AS IS (when iSCSI target does NOT intrude into bypassing SCSI traffic eliminating hardware virtualization layer all other iSCSI targets usually add), including tape drives and CD/DVD burners. I've never heard any complains about buffer underruns caused with network burns for years. With your approach "stay away from..." I'd recommend you stay aways from IT yourself. People following your advices would find themself in the middle of nowhere. I guess (according to your e-mail) this is the place where you came from Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message ... I configured the CD writer and DVD/CD rom to be shared in workgroup on my desktop running Windows XP Pro. All the users in workgroup can see the drives but not allow to access. I have given the write access to everyone Can someone advise the possible causes and fixes. Thanks, Ray Sharing a CD/DVD-RW over a network, even with third-party software, is a bad idea. you WILL produce coasters, as you CANNOT guarantee that throughput over the network will be able to keep up with the write speed of the drive. it may seem like you can do it, as it's possible that the network will be lightly loaded and you can keep up, but the next time you try it may fail... Think of it this way: say you're writing stuff to the CD/RW on a networked machine, all is well. Then, 8 other users on your network simultaneously access files on that same machine. BOOM-network data throughput is suddenly split 9 ways and you've just made a coaster... |
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CD writer and DVD/CD rom can't be shared in workgroup
"Anton Kolomyeytsev" wrote in message om... What a nonsense! Using modern GbE network hardware with throughoutput of 125 MB/sec (OK, 117 MB/sec in single direction in practice) doubt that this user has this kind of network hardware. most of us don't, we're still on 10/100BT. is capable of handling even 22 MB/sec of 16X DVD burning speed with absolutely no problem! And all of the devices manufactures during last 2-3 years have buffer underrung hardware preventing them from producing "coasters" if for some reason data stream would be lost (in your particular case network utilization would jump unexpected). Somebody in this group has already mentioned our iSCSI target and initiator software allowing to share storage devices AS IS (when iSCSI target does NOT intrude into bypassing SCSI traffic eliminating hardware virtualization layer all other iSCSI targets usually add), including tape drives and CD/DVD burners. I've never heard any complains about buffer underruns caused with network burns for years. Oh, I see why you're so ticked! You have a software solution FOR SALE. Excuuuuussee meeee!!!!!! I think the OP just wants to know WHY he can't do it with the burning support BUILT-IN to XP. With your approach "stay away from..." I'd recommend you stay aways from IT yourself. People following your advices would find themself in the middle of nowhere. I guess (according to your e-mail) this is the place where you came from Whatever. Irrelevant. Goodbye. Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message ... I configured the CD writer and DVD/CD rom to be shared in workgroup on my desktop running Windows XP Pro. All the users in workgroup can see the drives but not allow to access. I have given the write access to everyone Can someone advise the possible causes and fixes. Thanks, Ray Sharing a CD/DVD-RW over a network, even with third-party software, is a bad idea. you WILL produce coasters, as you CANNOT guarantee that throughput over the network will be able to keep up with the write speed of the drive. it may seem like you can do it, as it's possible that the network will be lightly loaded and you can keep up, but the next time you try it may fail... Think of it this way: say you're writing stuff to the CD/RW on a networked machine, all is well. Then, 8 other users on your network simultaneously access files on that same machine. BOOM-network data throughput is suddenly split 9 ways and you've just made a coaster... |
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CD writer and DVD/CD rom can't be shared in workgroup
100 megabits are definitely enough for 52X CD burning. Learn math in
elementary school? Can multiply 150 and 52? I'll tell ya big secret, even for 8X DVD burning it's still enough! StarWind and StarPort and free for non-commercial use (we make enough cash from big companies so are not greedy to take your last $20 you mother gave you so you could buy a cheeseburger for your lunch). No excuses for you, dude. Get your free lunch and go home. Prepare your homework P.S. Only idiots can blame free software with support, right? Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Anton Kolomyeytsev" wrote in message om... What a nonsense! Using modern GbE network hardware with throughoutput of 125 MB/sec (OK, 117 MB/sec in single direction in practice) doubt that this user has this kind of network hardware. most of us don't, we're still on 10/100BT. is capable of handling even 22 MB/sec of 16X DVD burning speed with absolutely no problem! And all of the devices manufactures during last 2-3 years have buffer underrung hardware preventing them from producing "coasters" if for some reason data stream would be lost (in your particular case network utilization would jump unexpected). Somebody in this group has already mentioned our iSCSI target and initiator software allowing to share storage devices AS IS (when iSCSI target does NOT intrude into bypassing SCSI traffic eliminating hardware virtualization layer all other iSCSI targets usually add), including tape drives and CD/DVD burners. I've never heard any complains about buffer underruns caused with network burns for years. Oh, I see why you're so ticked! You have a software solution FOR SALE. Excuuuuussee meeee!!!!!! I think the OP just wants to know WHY he can't do it with the burning support BUILT-IN to XP. With your approach "stay away from..." I'd recommend you stay aways from IT yourself. People following your advices would find themself in the middle of nowhere. I guess (according to your e-mail) this is the place where you came from Whatever. Irrelevant. Goodbye. Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message ... I configured the CD writer and DVD/CD rom to be shared in workgroup on my desktop running Windows XP Pro. All the users in workgroup can see the drives but not allow to access. I have given the write access to everyone Can someone advise the possible causes and fixes. Thanks, Ray Sharing a CD/DVD-RW over a network, even with third-party software, is a bad idea. you WILL produce coasters, as you CANNOT guarantee that throughput over the network will be able to keep up with the write speed of the drive. it may seem like you can do it, as it's possible that the network will be lightly loaded and you can keep up, but the next time you try it may fail... Think of it this way: say you're writing stuff to the CD/RW on a networked machine, all is well. Then, 8 other users on your network simultaneously access files on that same machine. BOOM-network data throughput is suddenly split 9 ways and you've just made a coaster... |
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CD writer and DVD/CD rom can't be shared in workgroup
Thanx, Anton, for backing me up. You never know until you try it, and again,
what a superb product you put out! Thanx for not milking us little people! -- Mike Matheny "Anton Kolomyeytsev" wrote in message om... 100 megabits are definitely enough for 52X CD burning. Learn math in elementary school? Can multiply 150 and 52? I'll tell ya big secret, even for 8X DVD burning it's still enough! StarWind and StarPort and free for non-commercial use (we make enough cash from big companies so are not greedy to take your last $20 you mother gave you so you could buy a cheeseburger for your lunch). No excuses for you, dude. Get your free lunch and go home. Prepare your homework P.S. Only idiots can blame free software with support, right? Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Anton Kolomyeytsev" wrote in message om... What a nonsense! Using modern GbE network hardware with throughoutput of 125 MB/sec (OK, 117 MB/sec in single direction in practice) doubt that this user has this kind of network hardware. most of us don't, we're still on 10/100BT. is capable of handling even 22 MB/sec of 16X DVD burning speed with absolutely no problem! And all of the devices manufactures during last 2-3 years have buffer underrung hardware preventing them from producing "coasters" if for some reason data stream would be lost (in your particular case network utilization would jump unexpected). Somebody in this group has already mentioned our iSCSI target and initiator software allowing to share storage devices AS IS (when iSCSI target does NOT intrude into bypassing SCSI traffic eliminating hardware virtualization layer all other iSCSI targets usually add), including tape drives and CD/DVD burners. I've never heard any complains about buffer underruns caused with network burns for years. Oh, I see why you're so ticked! You have a software solution FOR SALE. Excuuuuussee meeee!!!!!! I think the OP just wants to know WHY he can't do it with the burning support BUILT-IN to XP. With your approach "stay away from..." I'd recommend you stay aways from IT yourself. People following your advices would find themself in the middle of nowhere. I guess (according to your e-mail) this is the place where you came from Whatever. Irrelevant. Goodbye. Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message ... I configured the CD writer and DVD/CD rom to be shared in workgroup on my desktop running Windows XP Pro. All the users in workgroup can see the drives but not allow to access. I have given the write access to everyone Can someone advise the possible causes and fixes. Thanks, Ray Sharing a CD/DVD-RW over a network, even with third-party software, is a bad idea. you WILL produce coasters, as you CANNOT guarantee that throughput over the network will be able to keep up with the write speed of the drive. it may seem like you can do it, as it's possible that the network will be lightly loaded and you can keep up, but the next time you try it may fail... Think of it this way: say you're writing stuff to the CD/RW on a networked machine, all is well. Then, 8 other users on your network simultaneously access files on that same machine. BOOM-network data throughput is suddenly split 9 ways and you've just made a coaster... |
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CD writer and DVD/CD rom can't be shared in workgroup
Mike,
thank you very much for your warm words! They are always in need in our business (people usually contact developers when they have problems and not just to say "hi! I like what you do!"). Wish you good luck with iSCSI and network burning. And you're always welcomed to say what you do in our support forums Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "Mike Matheny" mikematheny@swbelldotnet wrote in message ... Thanx, Anton, for backing me up. You never know until you try it, and again, what a superb product you put out! Thanx for not milking us little people! -- Mike Matheny "Anton Kolomyeytsev" wrote in message om... 100 megabits are definitely enough for 52X CD burning. Learn math in elementary school? Can multiply 150 and 52? I'll tell ya big secret, even for 8X DVD burning it's still enough! StarWind and StarPort and free for non-commercial use (we make enough cash from big companies so are not greedy to take your last $20 you mother gave you so you could buy a cheeseburger for your lunch). No excuses for you, dude. Get your free lunch and go home. Prepare your homework P.S. Only idiots can blame free software with support, right? Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Anton Kolomyeytsev" wrote in message om... What a nonsense! Using modern GbE network hardware with throughoutput of 125 MB/sec (OK, 117 MB/sec in single direction in practice) doubt that this user has this kind of network hardware. most of us don't, we're still on 10/100BT. is capable of handling even 22 MB/sec of 16X DVD burning speed with absolutely no problem! And all of the devices manufactures during last 2-3 years have buffer underrung hardware preventing them from producing "coasters" if for some reason data stream would be lost (in your particular case network utilization would jump unexpected). Somebody in this group has already mentioned our iSCSI target and initiator software allowing to share storage devices AS IS (when iSCSI target does NOT intrude into bypassing SCSI traffic eliminating hardware virtualization layer all other iSCSI targets usually add), including tape drives and CD/DVD burners. I've never heard any complains about buffer underruns caused with network burns for years. Oh, I see why you're so ticked! You have a software solution FOR SALE. Excuuuuussee meeee!!!!!! I think the OP just wants to know WHY he can't do it with the burning support BUILT-IN to XP. With your approach "stay away from..." I'd recommend you stay aways from IT yourself. People following your advices would find themself in the middle of nowhere. I guess (according to your e-mail) this is the place where you came from Whatever. Irrelevant. Goodbye. Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software "V Green" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message ... I configured the CD writer and DVD/CD rom to be shared in workgroup on my desktop running Windows XP Pro. All the users in workgroup can see the drives but not allow to access. I have given the write access to everyone Can someone advise the possible causes and fixes. Thanks, Ray Sharing a CD/DVD-RW over a network, even with third-party software, is a bad idea. you WILL produce coasters, as you CANNOT guarantee that throughput over the network will be able to keep up with the write speed of the drive. it may seem like you can do it, as it's possible that the network will be lightly loaded and you can keep up, but the next time you try it may fail... Think of it this way: say you're writing stuff to the CD/RW on a networked machine, all is well. Then, 8 other users on your network simultaneously access files on that same machine. BOOM-network data throughput is suddenly split 9 ways and you've just made a coaster... |
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CD writer and DVD/CD rom can't be shared in workgroup
StarWind and StarPort and free for non-commercial use (we make enough cash from big companies so are not greedy to take your last $20 you mother gave you so you could buy a cheeseburger for your lunch). No excuses for you, dude. Get your free lunch and go home. Prepare your homework P.S. Only idiots can blame free software with support, right? Yep. And I'm definitely that, in this case. Now, you will witness something that rarely happens in newsgroup postings when somebody is totally and unequivocally proven to be wrong- A complete apology to both Anton and Mike and/or anyone else who had the misfortune to pay any attention to my uninformed posts. And, Anton, my surprised congratulations on making your product available free of charge for those of us who are individual users. In keeping with my demonstrated ignorance, I did not check your posted to link to the product. I have learned about a valuable product, albeit the hard way. Regards, Anton Kolomyeytsev CEO, Rocket Division Software |
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