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  #61  
Old January 26th 15, 02:54 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Have I? You seemed to be keeping it all
going by chiming in with the complaints.

Through all of this, last month and this week,
Andy Burns's post was the first from anyone who
seemed to actually read and understand what
I was saying and had a reasoned response to it.


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Old January 26th 15, 02:54 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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In article , Sage wrote:

fonts are *very* complex, and basically works of art.


I could make do with CourierNew and Helvetica.
You're implying they are works of art.
I disagree.


then you'd be wrong.

They're just stinking basic characters that have been around
for thousands of years.


nope.

Who cares if they have a fancy serif, or a hooked ascender or a short
bracket or a long spine or a curved beak or a straight shoulder or a
round counter or a long tail or an offset axis?

It's just a freakin' character.


a lot of people care. try using comic sans everywhere and see how well
that works out for you.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Comic_Sans_sample.svg

Do you buy your text books based on the font?
Do you choose your newspaper based on the font?
Do you choose your web site based on the font?


look at various books, newspapers and web sites and you'll see
different fonts used.

the choice of font affects readability and the perception of the
product.

there are very good reasons for which font to use. imagine if the
newspaper was in a monospaced font. blech.

typography is *very* important.

No. The "artistry" of a font is an absolutely meaningless thing.
It's for someone who cares more about pretty than functional.
Most of us are functional.


completely wrong.
  #63  
Old January 26th 15, 02:54 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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In article , John Hasler
wrote:

The problem is: the "original" set of TrueType Fonts (.ttf) are all
copyrighted by MicroSoft for M$-Windows, so a) you cannot use them in
Linux b) you cannot create fonts that look "exactly the same" because
in both cases MicroSoft will sue you...


Typefaces are not protected by copyright in the USA. Thus you *can*,
with impunity, create fonts that look "exactly the same". And people
frequently do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protection_of_typefaces


read it again.

However, the same abstract design is protectable by other means in
the United States, such as design patent (indeed, the very first US
design patent was for a typeface[1]), and by similar industrial
design protections in other countries, including the UK, Germany and
France. Further, the form in which that typeface is often reproduced,
a computer font file, is registrable for copyright in the United
States (since 1992).

Other forms of protection are also applicable: the typeface's trade
name may be registrable as a Trademark. (And the trademark would
apply, simultaneously, to the trade name of the thing that actually
changes hands when the typeface is bought, sold, licensed, or in any
way redistributed * that is, the digital font file within which the
measurements of the typeface are recorded as data.)
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In article , Lewis
wrote:

What's more "identifying" is the list of fonts they can retrieve from
your system.


What surprises me is that fonts aren't "more" standard than they are.


I just have all the system fonts. ~/Library/Fonts/ is empty.

That is to say, I have the exact fonts that all 10.10 users have.


apps and web sites can install fonts and likely already done so. go
look in the main library font folder, for a start.
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Old January 26th 15, 03:23 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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In article ,
Lewis wrote:

Absolutely. And I routinely blacklist websites that display text as grey on
white.


Comic Sans walks into a bar, and the barman says "Sorry, we don't serve
your type here."
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Old January 26th 15, 05:52 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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In article , John Hasler
wrote:

Typefaces are not protected by copyright in the USA.


But, according to the article you cited, they can be patented, and
their names can be trademarked.
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Old January 26th 15, 11:30 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Lewis wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:37:08 +0000:

It might not matter to you. I matters to me.


What font am I using when you visualize this message?

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Old January 26th 15, 11:31 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Lewis wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:24:30 +0000:

Don't install any fonts and you will have all the fonts that every user
of your version of OS X has. Simple.


I don't think I've ever expressly "installed" a font.
But, I don't know if programs install them on their own.
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Old January 26th 15, 11:33 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Lewis wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:41:29 +0000:

Helvetica is. Courier is horrible, but it might be art.


The only reason I pick CourierNew (TT) is that we need a monospaced
font at times.

Remember the olden days of the typewriter?

We didn't worry so much about fonts then, and we communicated just fine.

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Old January 26th 15, 11:34 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Warren Oates wrote, on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 21:28:17 -0500:

The publishers of those artifacts are extremely careful about the fonts
that the choose.


I'm sure all commercial entities take pains to use a font that
fits their needs, but, for personal use, a typewriter works as
well for most of us.

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Old January 26th 15, 11:35 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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nospam wrote, on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 21:54:41 -0500:

look at various books, newspapers and web sites and you'll see
different fonts used.


You totally missed my point, which is unusual for you, unless you
have an agenda, which is usual for you.

I didn't say that web sites and books and newspapers didn't use
various fonts; I said that you don't pick your newspaper by the
font.

You pick it by the what they write, not what font they use.

Remember, we all used to have typewriters in the olden days.
And we communicated with each other just fine.

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Old January 26th 15, 11:38 AM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Lewis wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 01:35:58 +0000:

I just have all the system fonts. ~/Library/Fonts/ is empty.

That is to say, I have the exact fonts that all 10.10 users have.


What command can I run to figure out what fonts I have and where they lie?

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Old January 26th 15, 12:46 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Lewis wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Sage was all, like:
nospam wrote, on Sun, 25 Jan 2015 11:25:54 -0500:


what a boring world it would be if everyone used the same font.


I didn't say the "same font". I said the "same fonts".


How many fonts does the average person need?


258.

We're talking mom and pop, who basically surf the web and read
their email?


Oh. Two then.

How many fonts does the average person (explicitly) use anyway?


I use about 12 on a regular basis. Menlo, Times, Palatino, Helvetica,
Helvetica Neue, Apple Chancery, Arial. Oh, and I was wrong, I have one
custom font, Jane Austen. Let's see, Copperplate, Baskerville. Um... A
few others.

I use a monospaced font and a kerning font,and that's about it.
So, two Truetype fonts would do me just fine.


Well, that's nice for you. Not really relevant for the 7 billion+ people
who are not you.

I guess my question would be how "I" could make "my" fonts more
"standard" so that they don't give me away.


Don't install any fonts and you will have all the fonts that every user
of your version of OS X has. Simple.


I install Droid fonts on my Linux boxes.

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Old January 26th 15, 12:46 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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In alt.os.linux Sage wrote:
What command can I run to figure out what fonts I have and where they lie?


For "system-installed" fonts, do
find /usr -name fonts.dir
and you'll find most directories that contain fonts (every LINE
- except for the first - in those files is a font name/description,
that first line is the number for that directory).
Depending on your distro/custom installation there may be more of
them under /opt, those normally belong to the applications that have
been installed into that tree.

Example: in my Slackware system there are 772 TTF fonts in a
directory of the same name.
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Old January 26th 15, 12:47 PM posted to alt.os.linux,alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.system
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Sage wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

Lewis wrote, on Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:24:30 +0000:

Don't install any fonts and you will have all the fonts that every user
of your version of OS X has. Simple.


I don't think I've ever expressly "installed" a font.
But, I don't know if programs install them on their own.


Aye, there's the rub. On any OS.

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