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  #31  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general, comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

On 2015-08-02 11:03, Savageduck wrote:
On 2015-08-02 14:33:45 +0000, Werner Obermeier said:

Pat wrote in :

You seem to be opposed to any idea that isn't exactly how you think it
should work. Why are you so against using the program/drivers
intended for your need? (Yes, the drivers get installed with iTunes.)


I don't really want to go into the rathole of why iTunes is the wrong
answer, just as the cloud is the wrong answer, when all you really want
to do is copy two files from someone else's Windows XP PC to your iPad.

Remember, it's trivial to do this using Android.
And, it's even trivialier (if that's a word) to do this with Linux.


Why is it that all Android and Linux evangelists who poke their noses
into non-Android and non-Linux forums, allegedly seeking a solution to a
problem, refuse to accept the simplest and best solutions?

...even more amazing is they all seem to use the same verbiage with
words such as "trivial".



Unless it's the trivially easy malware vector that Android is ...



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  #32  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

On 2015-08-02 14:48:25 +0000, Werner Obermeier said:

Savageduck wrote in
2015080207243285779-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom:

Silly attitude, Dropbox and Box will do the job.
Silly attitude, iTunes is the best way to get this done.


The entire task should be done in the time it takes to connect
a cable and move the mouse (as it works with other systems today).


That is the idea behind using iTunes.

To that end, these are *viable options* for WinXP:iPad file transfer:
1. Test out the Imazing use model (& compare to the Evernote use model)


Two very different things.

2. Load a working MTP driver on Windows (similar to how Linux works)
3. Figure out how to Bluetooth between iPad and Windows (as Android works)
4. Figure out how to WiFi between iPad and Windows (as Android works)

Other options which would likely work but with *far more overhead* a
A. USB cable & iTunes on Windows (far too much overhead!)


Actually the least "overhead".

B. The cloud (why use the cloud to move a file five inches?)


....because it works, and works well.

C. A special iPad USB adapter (if it works, but this requires hardware)
D. Email (but the 800MB files would need to be broken up into pieces)



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  #33  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

In article 2015080208034517639-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:



I don't really want to go into the rathole of why iTunes is the wrong
answer, just as the cloud is the wrong answer, when all you really want
to do is copy two files from someone else's Windows XP PC to your iPad.

Remember, it's trivial to do this using Android.
And, it's even trivialier (if that's a word) to do this with Linux.


Why is it that all Android and Linux evangelists who poke their noses
into non-Android and non-Linux forums, allegedly seeking a solution to
a problem, refuse to accept the simplest and best solutions?

...even more amazing is they all seem to use the same verbiage with
words such as "trivial".


because it's the same person.
  #34  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

On 2015-08-02 15:09:57 +0000, nospam said:

In article 2015080208034517639-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
Savageduck wrote:

I don't really want to go into the rathole of why iTunes is the wrong
answer, just as the cloud is the wrong answer, when all you really want
to do is copy two files from someone else's Windows XP PC to your iPad.

Remember, it's trivial to do this using Android.
And, it's even trivialier (if that's a word) to do this with Linux.


Why is it that all Android and Linux evangelists who poke their noses
into non-Android and non-Linux forums, allegedly seeking a solution to
a problem, refuse to accept the simplest and best solutions?

...even more amazing is they all seem to use the same verbiage with
words such as "trivial".


because it's the same person.


No kidding.

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  #41  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
nospam
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

In article , Werner Obermeier
wrote:

It's rigidly closed in order to avoid problems such as:
yet another exploit of Android in a very long list of unclosed items


As nospam would note, that's just inadvertent trolling as it has nothing
to do with the problem set, except by way of excuse.


no he wouldn't.

the above statement is absolutely correct.

ipads are more restricted to make them more secure. that's a *feature*,
not a bug.

however, describing it as 'rigidly closed' is a bit extreme.

I know you didn't mean to troll, but let's just stay on topic to
find a WINDOWS solution for connecting the iPad to Windows as nicely
as it should be (and is, with the other major platforms).


itunes.

this isn't the first time you've been told this either.

itunes is nowhere near as horrible as you claim it is. it has some
issues, especially with the latest version, but you don't need to use
it to where you'd even notice any of it.
  #42  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

In article , Werner Obermeier
wrote:

of course it will be the easiest route. it's *very* easy.


I realize you don't mean to troll, but the use of iTunes is
clearly off topic since it was stated very clearly in the OP
that there is absolutely no way iTunes will be loaded on
someone else's Windows PC without them wanting it, which isn't
gonna happen for two files (iTunes is a rathole, which only
*you* want to go down).


hundreds of millions of people use itunes every single day without
issue.

it may not be perfect (nothing is) but it works quite well.

calling it a rathole and repeatedly whining about not using it is
trolling.
  #43  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

In article , Werner Obermeier
wrote:

for 2 movies that might work (assuming it fits within whatever dropbox
plan he has), but over time it's going to end up being more than 2
movies. he'll want more after he watches the first two.


It's two movies because the friend with the Windows XP laptop doesn't
even live in the same state that I do.


then why is he asking you?

Clearly iTunes and dropbox are both ratholes that are best left for
those who enjoy ratholes.


clearly you're full of ****.
  #44  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

On 2015-08-02, Werner Obermeier wrote:
Savageduck wrote in
2015080207243285779-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom:

Silly attitude, Dropbox and Box will do the job.
Silly attitude, iTunes is the best way to get this done.


The entire task should be done in the time it takes to connect
a cable and move the mouse (as it works with other systems today).

To that end, these are *viable options* for WinXP:iPad file transfer:
1. Test out the Imazing use model (& compare to the Evernote use model)
2. Load a working MTP driver on Windows (similar to how Linux works)
3. Figure out how to Bluetooth between iPad and Windows (as Android works)
4. Figure out how to WiFi between iPad and Windows (as Android works)

Other options which would likely work but with *far more overhead* a
A. USB cable & iTunes on Windows (far too much overhead!)
B. The cloud (why use the cloud to move a file five inches?)
C. A special iPad USB adapter (if it works, but this requires hardware)
D. Email (but the 800MB files would need to be broken up into pieces)


Sounds like a lot of "fun". The **** people put themselves through to
avoid iTunes... While these boneheads are still futzing around with
their computers, the rest of us have already synced our devices over
WiFi through iTunes without even clicking a button, and have already
left the house to enjoy life. ; )

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  #45  
Old August 2nd 15, 04:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general, comp.mobile.ipad
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Default All I want to do is bring a file from WinXP over to the iPad

On 2015-08-02 11:21, Werner Obermeier wrote:
Alan Browne wrote in
:

It's rigidly closed in order to avoid problems such as:
yet another exploit of Android in a very long list of unclosed items


As nospam would note, that's just inadvertent trolling as it has nothing
to do with the problem set, except by way of excuse.


It is the core of it - it's just inconvenient to your way of thinking.

You have issue with using iTunes to get those videos onto the iPad via
the means that Apple provide without charge and as part of their general
walled garden approach to iOS. That in turn is because Apple correctly
consider iOS devices to be appliances that the general public they are
sold to would fail to protect by use practice.

In this morning's general arguing about it iTunes could have been DL'd,
installed and the files copies. Wirelessly if preferred.

Note that Apple do not provide the WinXP version directly but there are
various sites that do. Caveat usufructuarius.

I know you didn't mean to troll, but let's just stay on topic to
find a WINDOWS solution for connecting the iPad to Windows as nicely
as it should be (and is, with the other major platforms).


It's called iTunes. The Windows version.

As noted, Apple's method for file transfer is a walled garden to avoid
the security sieve that Android has been from the start. You don't like
that truth, OTOH you've wasted hours arguing what could have been solved
in under 15 minutes assuming a reasonably quick internet connection to
DL iTunes.
 




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