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Old June 1st 18, 04:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lab Lover
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.
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Old June 1st 18, 04:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 06/01/2018 10:33 AM, Lab Lover wrote:
Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


You might try Classic shell.

Rene

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Old June 1st 18, 04:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 06/01/2018 11:38 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 06/01/2018 10:33 AM, Lab Lover wrote:
Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel.Â* I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


You might tryÂ* Classic shell.

Rene

That will make the menu look better. But the rest of the system will
still be windows 10.

Personally I think you should just buckle under and learn 10. In the
long run it really isn't that bad, once you get used to it. Just like
Windows 7, we got used to the shock of going from win 98 to 7.

The Windows 10 menu isn't that bad. I used to put 2 dozen of shortcuts
and programs on the desktop, but now after cleaning off all those MS
apps and putting my own shortcuts and apps I want on their start menu it
works. Click start and there are all the icons I need. And none of
their stuff. If I want something else, I go down the alphabetized menu
looking for it. Or search Cortana.

Al
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Old June 1st 18, 04:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

Lab Lover wrote:

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


Classic Shell
Free (donationware).
Discontinued on 03-Dec-2017 (but says it supports Windows 10).
Open source (but I don't know if anyone has picked it up).

Start10
$4.99/license.
Volume licensing available for business use.

A comparison between those two:
https://www.infoworld.com/article/29...sic-shell.html

As I recall, Classic Shell could also optionally modify the chrome for
Internet Explorer to make it look like an older version (if your users
have not yet moved to a better and more secure web browser).

Just remember that you are crippling your users and support team.
Instead of knowing how to use the Win10 GUI, they'll be stuck back with
a Win7 GUI. If something specific comes up that requires using the
Win10 GUI, your users and support team won't be prepared.

What in Windows 10 forced your organization to move from Windows 7? If
no critical applications demand Windows 10 then why move, especially if
your users demand a Win7 GUI?
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Old June 1st 18, 05:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.




There are several downloadable choices. The two best-known and most
popular are Start10 ($4.99, but with a 30-day free trial) and Classic
Shell (free).

You'll probably find more people recommending Classic Shell, probably
because it's free, but as far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough
to free. They are both very good, although I personally prefer
Start10. I recommend downloading and trying both, ignoring my
preferences and everyone else's, and deciding for yourself which you
prefer.
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Old June 1st 18, 06:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:43:42 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:


There are several downloadable choices. The two best-known and most
popular are Start10 ($4.99, but with a 30-day free trial) and Classic
Shell (free).

You'll probably find more people recommending Classic Shell, probably
because it's free, but as far as I'm concerned, $4.99 is close enough
to free. They are both very good, although I personally prefer
Start10. I recommend downloading and trying both, ignoring my
preferences and everyone else's, and deciding for yourself which you
prefer.


+1

My wife is very computer illiterate. Gets to Youtube lectures
and QVC.com. No email. LOVES Start10. Has no idea what the Win
10 GUI looks like.
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Old June 1st 18, 06:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01 Jun 2018, KenW wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Get with the program. Windows 7 is gone so learn 10 like many
others have, me included. Bet you still drive a 15 yr old car !


20-year-old car. And it still works great.
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Old June 1st 18, 06:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lab Lover
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


I appreciate all of the replies, even the snarky ones. I will check
out Start 10. Thanks!
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Old June 1st 18, 09:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Keith Nuttle
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

On 6/1/2018 1:29 PM, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


I appreciate all of the replies, even the snarky ones. I will check
out Start 10. Thanks!

Do your self and your organization a favor and take a minute to learn
the Windows 10 interface. After a slight learning curve you will find
that you actually prefer it to Windows 7's

One of the things that has changed is how you shut down W10. Either
right click or left click the MS Icon on the right of the toolbar. It is
in the same place as the W7 start icon. Select the first icon from the
bottom and you are given the same choices to shutdown your computer as
in W7.

One of the things that I quickly fell in love with with W10 was the
jumplist. If you right click any icon on the toolbar or the new Start
menu, you will see a list of the files recently opened by that program.

You will get a jumplist for the File Explorer if you pin it to the
taskbar. Right click FE icon and you get list of folders you have
recently opened.

You can also pin items to the jumplist, so those frequently used folders
or files are available with a right click on any program.

When you right click on the MS icon on the left of the toolbar you have
access to all of the computer functions; Disk Management, Device
Manager, Network connection, etc. You can find the Task Manager in this
menu or when you right click the taskbar.

If you are stuck on the old control panel, create a short cut to
control.exe in the Windows\System32 folder, and place it on the start
menu, taskbar, or the desktop.

Depending on what I am doing I use the old control panel and the new
settings menu (Right click the square icon on the right of the taskbar)
interchangeably.

The biggest benefit of Windows 10 is they finally got rid of the
collapsing menu system that has been used by windows from the start. I
would click an item in the old start menu, and get to about the second
or third level before the mouse would stay and the whole thing collapse
and I would have to start over. The new start menu is much simpler.

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Old June 1st 18, 09:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:03:32 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 6/1/2018 1:29 PM, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


I appreciate all of the replies, even the snarky ones. I will check
out Start 10. Thanks!

Do your self and your organization a favor and take a minute to learn
the Windows 10 interface. After a slight learning curve you will find
that you actually prefer it to Windows 7's




Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, that's completely false. Your
recommendation wouldn't be a bad one if you would replace that last
phase with "you *might* find that you actually prefer it to Windows
7's."

Speaking for myself, I'll state that I greatly prefer Windows 7's
interface to 10's, but that doesn't mean that everyone else prefers
what I prefer, just as your preferences are not the same as everyone
else's either. And yes, I learned the Windows 10 interface before I
installed Start 10.
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Old June 1st 18, 11:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

Keith Nuttle wrote:

One of the things that has changed is how you shut down W10.
Either right click or left click the MS Icon on the right of the
toolbar. It is in the same place as the W7 start icon. Select
the first icon from the bottom and you are given the same choices
to shutdown your computer as in W7.

One of the things that I quickly fell in love with with W10 was
the jumplist. If you right click any icon on the toolbar or the
new Start menu, you will see a list of the files recently opened
by that program.

You will get a jumplist for the File Explorer if you pin it to the
taskbar. Right click FE icon and you get list of folders you have
recently opened.

You can also pin items to the jumplist, so those frequently used
folders or files are available with a right click on any program.

When you right click on the MS icon on the left of the toolbar you
have access to all of the computer functions; Disk Management,
Device Manager, Network connection, etc. You can find the Task
Manager in this menu or when you right click the taskbar.

If you are stuck on the old control panel, create a short cut to
control.exe in the Windows\System32 folder, and place it on the
start menu, taskbar, or the desktop.

Depending on what I am doing I use the old control panel and the
new settings menu (Right click the square icon on the right of the
taskbar) interchangeably.

The biggest benefit of Windows 10 is they finally got rid of the
collapsing menu system that has been used by windows from the
start. I would click an item in the old start menu, and get to
about the second or third level before the mouse would stay and
the whole thing collapse and I would have to start over. The new
start menu is much simpler.


Thanks, Keith, a very concise listing of why I won't use Windows 10 W/O
Classic Shell.



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Old June 2nd 18, 09:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lucifer Morningstar[_3_]
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Default Windows 10 look and feel utilities

On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


They will get used to it.
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Old June 2nd 18, 09:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 01/06/2018 9.03 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/1/2018 1:29 PM, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


I appreciate all of the replies, even the snarky ones. I will check
out Start 10. Thanks!

Do your self and your organization a favor and take a minute to learn
the Windows 10 interface. After a slight learning curve you will find
that you actually prefer it to Windows 7's


No way. I decided to be what I thought was "sensible" and when I was
forced to use Windows 10 (change of computer) and get to like the new
interface. I had worked with it right through the test versions of
Windows 8 (totally unusable) and 8.1 (nearly unusable) so I figured
Windows 10 was not that hard. Oh Boy, was I wrong. I worked with it for
some weeks and, of course, managed to do most things but in the end I
gave in and added Classic Shell - mainly because I was sick of having to
do a hatful of keypresses to achieve what could be done with a couple in
Windows 7. The Windows 10 GUI is just totally and utterly inefficient.
It was designed for toy computers with touch screens and might, I
suppose, be OK for them if Android were not a country mile better. It is
totally inefficient for serious domestic and definitely for enterprise use.

Since then I've been much more able to cope with the chaos that ensues
every six months when Microsoft enforce a totally new O/S on us -
wrecking all the customisation that I've put in and involving me in
sorting out their latest string of broken systems.


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Old June 2nd 18, 11:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:03:32 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 6/1/2018 1:29 PM, Lab Lover wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:33:58 +0000, Lab Lover wrote:

Looking for utility recommendations.

Our organization is not fond of the Windows 10 look and feel. I would
like to find some utilities that help to adjust the look and feel so
the interface more closely resembles Windows 7.


I appreciate all of the replies, even the snarky ones. I will check
out Start 10. Thanks!

Do your self and your organization a favor and take a minute to learn
the Windows 10 interface. After a slight learning curve you will find
that you actually prefer it to Windows 7's


That certainly wasn't the case for me. After having a Win 10 laptop for
just over a year, I had an opportunity to swap it for a Win 7 laptop and
I didn't hesitate to do the upgrade. I use that laptop for work, though,
where Win 10 simply isn't a good choice at all. When I'm ready to work,
I need to be able to count on the laptop being ready, as well.

One of the things that I quickly fell in love with with W10 was the
jumplist. If you right click any icon on the toolbar or the new Start
menu, you will see a list of the files recently opened by that program.

You will get a jumplist for the File Explorer if you pin it to the
taskbar. Right click FE icon and you get list of folders you have
recently opened.

You can also pin items to the jumplist, so those frequently used folders
or files are available with a right click on any program.


I think Win 7 & 8 do all of the above just the same. If not natively,
then via Classic Shell.

The biggest benefit of Windows 10 is they finally got rid of the
collapsing menu system that has been used by windows from the start.


Biggest benefit. Good one, mate. ;-)

I
would click an item in the old start menu, and get to about the second
or third level before the mouse would stay and the whole thing collapse
and I would have to start over. The new start menu is much simpler.


I agree there. Taking away most of the functionality does lead to a
simpler menu. Obviously, that's not a good thing.

 




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