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Old July 8th 18, 03:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:
"Ant" wrote


| Mine is almost 9 GB even though my 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 is from October
| 2016 and kept updated. I even use Disk Cleanup monthly to remove its
| WUs.
|
9 GB. Chicken feed.
If you do a search for winsxs GB you'll find 20, 30, 60....
There's no limit to the madness.


I had a Vista laptop with 80 GB used. It was
updated to 7 and still took up 80 GB of space.
(Very little software.) I had to reinstall Vista
from scratch, then do the update, in order to
clean out the mess.


Wow. I really wished there was a way to get rid of these left overs
fully.

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  #47  
Old July 8th 18, 04:00 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 14:25:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the
inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse operation
Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen.

Ctrl+A selects all files in the current folder.


Yes, but Keith might have wanted to select, say, 7 files, or a range of
files, rather than all of them.
Of course there's also the command prompt.


Some combination of control, alt, and shift,
allows extending a selection with "holes" in it.

It's control-alt that allows mousing and selecting
separate items. They don't have to be touching one another.

You can also select "chunks" and add them while holding
down those keys.

https://s22.postimg.cc/xe221hskx/extended_selection.gif

Paul
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Old July 8th 18, 11:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 14:25:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the
inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse operation
Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen.
Ctrl+A selects all files in the current folder.

Yes, but Keith might have wanted to select, say, 7 files, or a range
of
files, rather than all of them.
Of course there's also the command prompt.


Some combination of control, alt, and shift,
allows extending a selection with "holes" in it.

It's control-alt that allows mousing and selecting
separate items. They don't have to be touching one another.


I know those, and I think Keith does too: I think he was just saying he
was finding them near-impossible on a touch-screen device (no real
keyboard or mouse).

You can also select "chunks" and add them while holding
down those keys.

https://s22.postimg.cc/xe221hskx/extended_selection.gif

Paul


Not sure how I'd select a chunk and add it to an existing selection -
the action of starting to select the chunk would I think deselect
anything already selected. But no matter! I think Keith's comment above
was about the difficulty of using a touch screen as the _only_ input.
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Old July 8th 18, 11:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 14:25:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the
inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse operation
Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen.
Ctrl+A selects all files in the current folder.
Yes, but Keith might have wanted to select, say, 7 files, or a range of
files, rather than all of them.
Of course there's also the command prompt.


Some combination of control, alt, and shift,
allows extending a selection with "holes" in it.

It's control-alt that allows mousing and selecting
separate items. They don't have to be touching one another.


I know those, and I think Keith does too: I think he was just saying he
was finding them near-impossible on a touch-screen device (no real
keyboard or mouse).

You can also select "chunks" and add them while holding
down those keys.

https://s22.postimg.cc/xe221hskx/extended_selection.gif

Paul


Not sure how I'd select a chunk and add it to an existing selection -
the action of starting to select the chunk would I think deselect
anything already selected. But no matter! I think Keith's comment above
was about the difficulty of using a touch screen as the _only_ input.


You might need some sort of sticky keys solution,
where pressing some keys sequentially, builds up
a hotkey-combo for you.

Having had the misfortune, of using a tiny touch
device just a couple days ago, I can sympathize with
the problems of operating them. What rubbish!!!

I'm thinking "Bluetooth keyboard for the win".
If you need to do extensive data entry, and not
watch music videos on it, then get a keyboard.

Paul
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Old July 8th 18, 12:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 08/07/2018 03:15, Mayayana wrote:

So the company president and the main programmers
each have an entirely different story about how it works.
The whole idea of "hard linking makes no sense in the
first place. It's as unnecessarily confusing as having
non-functional, fake folders that mimic pre-7 app data
paths. There's no need to show those fake folders in
order for Explorer to perform a virtualization rerouting
of files for non-conforming software.


Lol!

They're copying all the drivers from the install disk
into winsxs. They also seem to be copying every single
system file, in any version, that comes through. If
you have an AMD-32 you'll still have Intel-64 files and
vice versa. There are thousands of things you
couldn't possibly ever need, so they're certainly not
reflections from the system folder.


Not to mention, at least with Ultimate, files for every goddamned
language on the planet into ...
C:\Boot
C:\Windows\System32
C:\Windows\SysWOW64

I've gone through these individually compressing non-English folders,
and other bloat folders as well.
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Old July 8th 18, 12:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 7/8/2018 6:41 AM, Paul wrote:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 14:25:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:
The tablet is a touch tablet, which makes makes it a pain to make the
inputs, and I have never found how to do the operation mouse
operation
Click, Shift Click to select multiple files on the touch screen.
Ctrl+A selects all files in the current folder.
Â*Yes, but Keith might have wanted to select, say, 7 files, or a
range of
files, rather than all of them.
Of course there's also the command prompt.


Some combination of control, alt, and shift,
allows extending a selection with "holes" in it.

It's control-alt that allows mousing and selecting
separate items. They don't have to be touching one another.


I know those, and I think Keith does too: I think he was just saying
he was finding them near-impossible on a touch-screen device (no real
keyboard or mouse).

You can also select "chunks" and add them while holding
down those keys.

https://s22.postimg.cc/xe221hskx/extended_selection.gif

Â* Paul


Not sure how I'd select a chunk and add it to an existing selection -
the action of starting to select the chunk would I think deselect
anything already selected. But no matter! I think Keith's comment
above was about the difficulty of using a touch screen as the _only_
input.


You might need some sort of sticky keys solution,
where pressing some keys sequentially, builds up
a hotkey-combo for you.

Having had the misfortune, of using a tiny touch
device just a couple days ago, I can sympathize with
the problems of operating them. What rubbish!!!

I'm thinking "Bluetooth keyboard for the win".
If you need to do extensive data entry, and not
watch music videos on it, then get a keyboard.

Â*Â* Paul

If you need to do extensive data entry work, get a laptop.

I find it amazing that people praise the smartphone and touch tablet,
and then run down to Walmart and by keyboards and other peripherals to
make it a laptop.

While the keyboard idea is great, with my small tablet there is one port
that accepts the power cord, the keyboard, etc.

When you have to do things like remove thousands of files, it needs to
be plugged in, so it is difficult to have a keyboard or mouse attached
to the tablet, and have sufficient energy that it will not die during
the task you are trying to do.
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Old July 8th 18, 02:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 11:21:22 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Not sure how I'd select a chunk and add it to an existing selection -
the action of starting to select the chunk would I think deselect
anything already selected. But no matter! I think Keith's comment above
was about the difficulty of using a touch screen as the _only_ input.


What's wrong with turning off the windows update service and deleting
the whole softwaredistribution directory and contents? It worked for me
when I had a problem.

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Old July 8th 18, 03:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 12:09:34 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

On 08/07/2018 03:15, Mayayana wrote:

So the company president and the main programmers
each have an entirely different story about how it works.
The whole idea of "hard linking makes no sense in the
first place. It's as unnecessarily confusing as having
non-functional, fake folders that mimic pre-7 app data
paths. There's no need to show those fake folders in
order for Explorer to perform a virtualization rerouting
of files for non-conforming software.


Lol!

They're copying all the drivers from the install disk
into winsxs. They also seem to be copying every single
system file, in any version, that comes through. If
you have an AMD-32 you'll still have Intel-64 files and
vice versa. There are thousands of things you
couldn't possibly ever need, so they're certainly not
reflections from the system folder.


Not to mention, at least with Ultimate, files for every goddamned
language on the planet into ...
C:\Boot
C:\Windows\System32
C:\Windows\SysWOW64



Do you know how many languages there are on the planet? According to
https://www.linguisticsociety.org/co...re-there-world,
in 2009 there were 6,909.

But it's possible that they're not all goddamned.
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Old July 8th 18, 03:44 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sat, 07 Jul 2018 21:01:10 -0500, Ant wrote:

Mine is almost 9 GB even though my 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 is from October
2016 and kept updated. I even use Disk Cleanup monthly to remove its
WUs.


I just checked: my winsxs folder is about 16GiB.

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Old July 8th 18, 03:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Ken Blake" wrote

| Not to mention, at least with Ultimate, files for every goddamned
| language on the planet into ...

| Do you know how many languages there are on the planet?
| But it's possible that they're not all goddamned.

Context. They're all goddamned if support files
you'll never use are taking up space.

You set up Windows and the first question is what
language do you want. Why maintain language support
for hundreds of other languages after that choice is
made? It's not as though you might wake
up one day speaking Swahili.


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Old July 8th 18, 03:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 07/08/2018 9:44 AM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jul 2018 21:01:10 -0500, Ant wrote:

Mine is almost 9 GB even though my 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 is from October
2016 and kept updated. I even use Disk Cleanup monthly to remove its
WUs.


I just checked: my winsxs folder is about 16GiB.


I am showing 9.45 GB on Windows 10 Pro.

Rene

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Old July 8th 18, 05:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" on Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:46:23 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"Ken Blake" wrote

| Not to mention, at least with Ultimate, files for every goddamned
| language on the planet into ...

| Do you know how many languages there are on the planet?
| But it's possible that they're not all goddamned.

Context. They're all goddamned if support files
you'll never use are taking up space.

You set up Windows and the first question is what
language do you want. Why maintain language support
for hundreds of other languages after that choice is
made? It's not as though you might wake
up one day speaking Swahili.


Eta Pravda!

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Old July 8th 18, 05:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote

| You set up Windows and the first question is what
| language do you want. Why maintain language support
| for hundreds of other languages after that choice is
| made? It's not as though you might wake
| up one day speaking Swahili.
|
| Eta Pravda!

Sheesh, I had to go look that up. Why doesn't
Windows come with translation functionality? Now
*that* could be a justification for language
support files.


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Old July 8th 18, 07:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Mayayana wrote:
[...]

You set up Windows and the first question is what
language do you want. Why maintain language support
for hundreds of other languages after that choice is
made? It's not as though you might wake
up one day speaking Swahili.


Well, theoretically, Windows is a multi-user system, so ... :-)

But seriously, in The Old Days (TM) on our Real UNIX (TM) systems,
simultaneous multi-language support was often essential.
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Old July 8th 18, 07:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
[]
made? It's not as though you might wake
up one day speaking Swahili.

I think there _is_ a rare condition where people do, actually! (Well
I've heard of it happening with French.) However, I don't see that as a
reason for keeping every-language support!

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