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  #16  
Old October 17th 18, 06:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Steve Hayes[_2_]
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:10:23 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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"Linea Recta" on Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:36:35
+0200 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:


Disappointing they seem to have abandonrd the common sense options...


It is Google. They will decide what is common sense, and make you
use it. Whether it works for you or not. E.G., what they did with
Google Groups has made the archives impossible to search. Which is
not a good look for a Company which started as "search" engine.


When Google started offering webmail they offered a simple no-nonsense
editor that worked well.

But they kept "enhancing" it so that I now find it impossible to use.

I check my Gmail about once a month or so, mainly to delete spurious
"notifications" that some websites insist on sending me. I now use
use my Gmail address only for giving to sites that went to send me
notifications or offers or newsletters that I don't want cluttering up
my inbox, and bulk delete them every few weeks.

If anyone sends me anything that needs a reply, I forward it to myself
on my proper e-mail address and reply there where I have an editor
that works.




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  #17  
Old October 17th 18, 05:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 07:44:28 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Oct 2018 09:10:23 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

"Linea Recta" on Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:36:35
+0200 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:


Disappointing they seem to have abandonrd the common sense options...


It is Google. They will decide what is common sense, and make you
use it. Whether it works for you or not. E.G., what they did with
Google Groups has made the archives impossible to search. Which is
not a good look for a Company which started as "search" engine.


When Google started offering webmail they offered a simple no-nonsense
editor that worked well.

But they kept "enhancing" it so that I now find it impossible to use.



As far as I'm concerned, Google webmail and all other webmail has
*always* been poor. It's the worst possible way to do e-mail. Many
people don't realize it, but you can read and write gmail with almost
any e-mail program. And almost any e-mail program is a far better way
to do it.



I check my Gmail about once a month or so, mainly to delete spurious
"notifications" that some websites insist on sending me. I now use
use my Gmail address only for giving to sites that went to send me
notifications or offers or newsletters that I don't want cluttering up
my inbox, and bulk delete them every few weeks.

If anyone sends me anything that needs a reply, I forward it to myself
on my proper e-mail address and reply there where I have an editor
that works.




Why not simply read your gmail in your "proper" e-mail program?

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Old October 17th 18, 07:39 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Steve Hayes
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Old October 23rd 18, 04:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
pyotr filipivich
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" on Mon, 8 Oct 2018
17:56:26 +0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
"Linea Recta" on Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:36:35
+0200 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:



Thanks.
Disappointing they seem to have abandonrd the common sense options...


It is Google. They will decide what is common sense, and make you
use it. Whether it works for you or not. E.G., what they did with
Google Groups has made the archives impossible to search. Which is
not a good look for a Company which started as "search" engine.


I don't know what they've done to GG as I don't use it, but it certainly
seems they've made some of the archive contents appear in search results


I don't use google groups myself. But trying to find a post which
you know was made ... I have better luck looking through my own files.

- but in such a way that the person finding them doesn't realise they're
a newsgroup post, in fact in all likelihood doesn't know what usenet is.
They've also made the user interface in such a way that anyone
attempting to respond to such a posting (a) doesn't realise the posting
is ten or twenty years old (b) thinks they're responding with a private
email to the original poster, rather than a post to a newsgroup. This
seems to be particularly the case for people with @gmail addresses: I'm
not saying anything about such people, more that Google seem to have set
things up such that they in particular are liable to be misled in this
way.


Google has its own standards of what is "good" and useful.
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Old October 24th 18, 12:08 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" on Mon, 8 Oct 2018
17:56:26 +0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:

[]
- but in such a way that the person finding them doesn't realise they're
a newsgroup post, in fact in all likelihood doesn't know what usenet is.
They've also made the user interface in such a way that anyone
attempting to respond to such a posting (a) doesn't realise the posting
is ten or twenty years old (b) thinks they're responding with a private
email to the original poster, rather than a post to a newsgroup. This
seems to be particularly the case for people with @gmail addresses: I'm
not saying anything about such people, more that Google seem to have set
things up such that they in particular are liable to be misled in this
way.


Google has its own standards of what is "good" and useful.


Yes, but they've failed in this case, even if their aim was to in some
way benefit themselves: I can't see how it benefits even Google to have
lots of @gmail users misled into posting replies to decades-old posts,
into newsgroups they probably don't know exist and certainly won't see
followups in.
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(Petitions - at least e-petitions - should collect votes both for and
against, if they're going to be reported as indicative of public
opinion. If you agree, please click below, unless you already have.) [UK only]
https://petition.parliament.uk/petit...BYobumelL9J54c

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