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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit.
Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off. When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why? Could not find much useful online about this issue! -- tb |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
On 11/9/18 10:42 AM, tb wrote:
I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off. When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why? Could not find much useful online about this issue! No idea, but Y-I-P-P-E-E !!!!! Sorry, I know my remark was not very helpful. Try enabling it in Services. |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
tb wrote:
I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off. When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why? Could not find much useful online about this issue! Did you use GPEdit on Win10 Pro, to set the policy shown here ? Maybe it conflicts with the slider ? https://www.windowscentral.com/how-e...reators-update If it's not GPEdit, it could also be a registry setting that corresponds to what that GPEdit would have set on your behalf. Paul |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
On 11/9/18 12:19 PM, Paul wrote:
tb wrote: I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off.Â* When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why?Â* Could not find much useful online about this issue! Did you use GPEdit on Win10 Pro, to set the policy shown here ? Maybe it conflicts with the slider ? https://www.windowscentral.com/how-e...reators-update If it's not GPEdit, it could also be a registry setting that corresponds to what that GPEdit would have set on your behalf. Â*Â* Paul I keep forgetting that we mostly have unlimited Internet in the USA (3G and 4G being the exception). Other parts of the world pay by the byte. |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
T wrote:
On 11/9/18 12:19 PM, Paul wrote: tb wrote: I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off. When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why? Could not find much useful online about this issue! Did you use GPEdit on Win10 Pro, to set the policy shown here ? Maybe it conflicts with the slider ? https://www.windowscentral.com/how-e...reators-update If it's not GPEdit, it could also be a registry setting that corresponds to what that GPEdit would have set on your behalf. Paul I keep forgetting that we mostly have unlimited Internet in the USA (3G and 4G being the exception). Other parts of the world pay by the byte. No, you have Hughes Satellite (2GB/mo cap). Rural people sometimes are forced to use it, because no one else serves them. Some of your "edge of town" people are still getting 3Mbit/sec ADSL. The same would be true here. While FTTCorner has rolled out in the city, it still isn't everywhere. Some of our rural people are served by canopy-net (microwave). My sister is in the woods, and when she first got it, her microwave connection was faster than my ADSL. ******* In Canada, not too long ago we were "uniformly capped". You couldn't find an unlimited service. But the offers keep changing each year. This is Bell. The top two items should be classified as "vaporware", due to where you can get it. I couldn't get that here. I could get the 100 service. 1500Mbit/sec 940Mbit/sec Unlimited $110/mo \___ not available, my street 1000Mbit/sec 750Mbit/sec unlimited $100/mo / 100 10 Unlimited $100/mo (not in main package list...) 50 10 Unlimited 95 25 10 350GB/mo 80 == cap limits used to be lower! 3 0.68 20GB/mo 35 == this is what they'd prefer to do... They're pros at this. No truck roll. Filter per phone. My ISP nicely brackets the competition, on the ADSL resell services they're "allowed" to sell. They won't ever get a chance to sell 1000 or 1500. 50 10 Unlimited $57 \ 25 10 Unlimited 50 \___ Used to have 400GB/mo limit 15 10 Unlimited 46 / 15 1 400GB/mo 36 == mine, grandfathered 6 0.8 200GB/mo 35 My ISP, cable resell options (1000 30 Unlimited 85 Rogers sells this, my ISP cannot) 250 20 Unlimited 90 150 15 Unlimited 69 75 10 Unlimited 60 30 5 200GB/mo 47 \ 30 5 Unlimited 53 \___ You have choices 5 1 200GB/mo 25 / 5 1 Unlimited 35 / Looks like this year, the roof has come off... Not that this is important. I was "surviving" quite nicely on 400GB/mo. I'm not a movie downloader. A peak month for me might be 40GB (info not from a meter, just a guesstimate). Because my ISP has a "Free between 2AM and 7AM" policy, one person using my plan, pulled down 1TB in a single month, and didn't "get the letter"... Not too many people are quite that clever. So he got 1TB on a 400GB plan. Even when a plan has limits, there are some "secret details" not listed on the box :-) Thanks to dslreports for spreading the word on that. My ISP also offered a "shotgun" option for DSL. You could use MPPP and as many as seven DSL lines, and combine the overall bandwidth. I don't think there were many takers. Today I suppose you could do 7*100, but really, who cares. The fiber package gives more (when it works right). At one time, the advantage of the MPPP option, is the DPI box didn't know how to process the stream properly (good for Torrents at the time). Torrents are no longer interfered with. ******* There is at least one document, that compares country practices. For example, Australia was like Canada at one time, with uniform caps. But because this situation is dynamic, the document contents could be quite different today. You can see the UK is dabbling with unlimited, but some still "send the letter". https://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/fea...ited-broadband https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_France "all the fixed broadband internet offers in France are unmetered" Germany is unlimited on wired plans. Limited on wireless plans. https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/com...ave_data_caps/ Since 3G/4G/5G are "cash cows", you can't expect the cap to come off them. Such cows must be milked overtime. If you're not paying $200 a month, the marketing department hasn't done a good job. Paul |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
On 11/9/18 6:34 PM, Paul wrote:
T wrote: On 11/9/18 12:19 PM, Paul wrote: tb wrote: I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off.Â* When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why?Â* Could not find much useful online about this issue! Did you use GPEdit on Win10 Pro, to set the policy shown here ? Maybe it conflicts with the slider ? https://www.windowscentral.com/how-e...reators-update If it's not GPEdit, it could also be a registry setting that corresponds to what that GPEdit would have set on your behalf. Â*Â*Â* Paul I keep forgetting that we mostly have unlimited Internet in the USA (3G and 4G being the exception).Â* Other parts of the world pay by the byte. No, you have Hughes Satellite (2GB/mo cap). Rural people sometimes are forced to use it, because no one else serves them. Some of your "edge of town" people are still getting 3Mbit/sec ADSL. The same would be true here. While FTTCorner has rolled out in the city, it still isn't everywhere. Some of our rural people are served by canopy-net (microwave). My sister is in the woods, and when she first got it, her microwave connection was faster than my ADSL. ******* In Canada, not too long ago we were "uniformly capped". You couldn't find an unlimited service. But the offers keep changing each year. This is Bell. The top two items should be classified as "vaporware", due to where you can get it. I couldn't get that here. I could get the 100 service. 1500Mbit/sec 940Mbit/sec UnlimitedÂ* $110/moÂ*Â*Â* \___ not available, my street 1000Mbit/sec 750Mbit/sec unlimitedÂ* $100/moÂ*Â*Â* / Â*100Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ* $100/moÂ*Â*Â* (not in main package list...) Â* 50Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 95 Â* 25Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 350GB/moÂ*Â*Â*Â* 80Â*Â* == cap limits used to be lower! Â*Â* 3Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 0.68Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 20GB/moÂ*Â*Â*Â* 35Â*Â* == this is what they'd prefer to do... Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* They're pros at this. No truck roll. Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Filter per phone. My ISP nicely brackets the competition, on the ADSL resell services they're "allowed" to sell. They won't ever get a chance to sell 1000 or 1500. Â* 50Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â* $57Â* \ Â* 25Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 50Â*Â* \___ Used to have 400GB/mo limit Â* 15Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 46Â*Â* / Â* 15Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 1Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 400GB/moÂ*Â*Â*Â* 36Â* == mine, grandfathered Â*Â* 6Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 0.8Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 200GB/moÂ*Â*Â*Â* 35 My ISP, cable resell options (1000Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 30Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 85Â* Rogers sells this, my ISP cannot) Â*250Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 20Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 90 Â*150Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 15Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 69 Â* 75Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 10Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 60 Â* 30Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 5Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 200GB/moÂ*Â*Â*Â* 47Â* \ Â* 30Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 5Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 53Â*Â* \___ You have choices Â*Â* 5Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 1Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 200GB/moÂ*Â*Â*Â* 25Â*Â* / Â*Â* 5Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* 1Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* UnlimitedÂ*Â*Â* 35Â* / Looks like this year, the roof has come off... Not that this is important. I was "surviving" quite nicely on 400GB/mo. I'm not a movie downloader. A peak month for me might be 40GB (info not from a meter, just a guesstimate). Because my ISP has a "Free between 2AM and 7AM" policy, one person using my plan, pulled down 1TB in a single month, and didn't "get the letter"... Not too many people are quite that clever. So he got 1TB on a 400GB plan. Even when a plan has limits, there are some "secret details" not listed on the box :-) Thanks to dslreports for spreading the word on that. My ISP also offered a "shotgun" option for DSL. You could use MPPP and as many as seven DSL lines, and combine the overall bandwidth. I don't think there were many takers. Today I suppose you could do 7*100, but really, who cares. The fiber package gives more (when it works right). At one time, the advantage of the MPPP option, is the DPI box didn't know how to process the stream properly (good for Torrents at the time). Torrents are no longer interfered with. ******* There is at least one document, that compares country practices. For example, Australia was like Canada at one time, with uniform caps. But because this situation is dynamic, the document contents could be quite different today. You can see the UK is dabbling with unlimited, but some still "send the letter". https://www.broadbandgenie.co.uk/fea...ited-broadband https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_France Â*Â* "all the fixed broadband internet offers in France are unmetered" Germany is unlimited on wired plans. Limited on wireless plans. https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/com...ave_data_caps/ Since 3G/4G/5G are "cash cows", you can't expect the cap to come off them. Such cows must be milked overtime. If you're not paying $200 a month, the marketing department hasn't done a good job. Â*Â* Paul Hi Paul, Huh, It is mostly unlimited here in the States. Has Hughes Satellite gotten any better? Speaking of false and misleading advertising, the cell phone unlimited services cap you and drop you to a much lower performance level. It is all in the fine print. One of the Microwave services out here I sometimes work for can give up to 45 Mbps, both ways. But the sure do change a lot for it. I love these guys because you can purchase what ever speed you want in either direction you want. So if you are uploading a lot, you can get a much faster upload than download. -T |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
tb wrote:
Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off. When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why? Could not find much useful online about this issue! That is not the setting to automatically download updates. The important part is "even over metered data connections". That setting tells Windows Update to not care when your Internet connection is metered, and download updates anyway (whatever the cost) instead of waiting until you are on an unmetered Internet connection. A metered connection would be when: * You are tethering your mobile phone over wifi, and you pay for every megabyte downloaded. * You are on satellite internet with a monthly cap of 2GB, which is less than half the size of a Windows 10 version update. If you let Windows try to download a version update, you will go over your monthly cap and be cut off for up to a month. * Your PC has a mobile broadband card in it, and you pay for every megabyte downloaded. So the big question is, do you have any Internet connections which are set as metered connections in Windows? Here is how to check whether any of your wifi connections are metered. From an Administrator account, go to Start Settings Network & Internet WiFi Manage known networks. Click on each wifi name, click "Properties", and look at the "Set as metered connection" setting. |
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Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled
On 11/10/2018 at 12:43:21 AM Johnstone wrote:
tb wrote: Automatically Download Updates Will Not Stay Enabled I have Windows 10, v. 1809, 64-bit. Under Windows Update - Advanced options, there is an On /Off slider for "Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections" entry. The slider is set to Off. When I move it to On, it automatically slides back to Off... Any idea why? Could not find much useful online about this issue! That is not the setting to automatically download updates. The important part is "even over metered data connections". That setting tells Windows Update to not care when your Internet connection is metered, and download updates anyway (whatever the cost) instead of waiting until you are on an unmetered Internet connection. A metered connection would be when: * You are tethering your mobile phone over wifi, and you pay for every megabyte downloaded. * You are on satellite internet with a monthly cap of 2GB, which is less than half the size of a Windows 10 version update. If you let Windows try to download a version update, you will go over your monthly cap and be cut off for up to a month. * Your PC has a mobile broadband card in it, and you pay for every megabyte downloaded. So the big question is, do you have any Internet connections which are set as metered connections in Windows? Here is how to check whether any of your wifi connections are metered. From an Administrator account, go to Start Settings Network & Internet WiFi Manage known networks. Click on each wifi name, click "Properties", and look at the "Set as metered connection" setting. That's it! Thanks for the explanation. -- tb |
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