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  #91  
Old January 8th 19, 04:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2019 01:55:49 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:


Nowadays, Opera, Chrome, Firefox, etc all seem to be pretty much as good as each other.




Not to me. I don't know Opera well at all, so I won't comment on it,
but as far as I'm concerned, Chrome and FireFox are completely
different. FireFox is my favorite browser, and Chrome is way down near
the bottom of the list--barely better than Edge
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  #92  
Old January 8th 19, 06:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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On 1/7/19 7:55 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

I didn't know much about
internet access and browsers. I had Compuserve (I actually had a way to
determine if it had any local phone numbers then)


What do you mean by the bit in brackets?

In the eighties, I belonged to a Commodore home computer user group. In
one of their newsletters, there was an article on some free things you
could do with your modem. There was a toll-free number to connect to
Telenet (one of the dial-up services you could use to access Compuserve)
and find out if there were any local numbers for Compuserve. I live in a
small enough town, there were no local numbers here, until 1995 when the
phone company extended the local calling area. Compuserve was the only
online service I knew how to check accessibility for without signing up
first.

I had a 28.8Kbps modem that worked fine on bulletin boards, but was
erratic with Windows, Making the Compuserve experience even worse.

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you will find the best men, the best women, the best children." --Robert
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  #93  
Old January 8th 19, 08:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Commander Kinsey
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:57:31 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:55:16 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 00:02:34 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:45:14 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:00:01 -0000, notX wrote:

On 1/4/19 10:45 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/4/2019 10:30 AM, wrote:
I'm staying happily with 7 .

I occasionally ask for one good reason to go to 10 and nobody has
given one. Lots of good reasons NOT to go to 10 !

Name one good reason for staying with W-7 which is obsolete!

It's not Win 8 or Win 10.

Just like DOS, Internet explorer, Lotus, dBase, and other software that
has come and gone in the last 40 years

Internet Explorer "come and gone". I like that.

Just because it's now called Edge doesn't mean it's gone. Edge is still here and it still sux. Currently it tells me I have no internet connection, yet every other browser works. WTF? And as per usual with modern fluffy programs that act like a ****ing Apple Mac, all I get is a silly cartoon with a confused looking alien saying no internet. What about some ****ing technical information so I can fix the problem?!?

It is *not* now called Edge. Internet Explorer and Edge are two
different browsers, and *both* of them come with Windows 10.


So you get the old and the new version, so what, it doesn't change what I just said.



Say something wrong, get corrected, and say "it doesn't change what I
just said." That's a great way to lose the respect of everyone here.

And it's not "the old and the new version." They are two *different*
browsers.


No, they changed the name. Just like Windows Live Mail and Outlook Express. Of course they'll be a bit different, but so are two versions of IE.

They're both the same **** made my Microsoft.




I wouldn't say it like that, but as I said (quoted below) I agree,


It's some legal bull**** because they weren't allowed to have edge as the default browser or something.



Again, not correct. Despite their both coming with Windows 10, Edge
*is* the default browser.


No it isn't. I've always had Internet Explorer given to me as the default, which then immediately asks me if I'd like to try out Edge. I assumed that was more legal bull****.

I'm not a fan of Internet Explorer, but as far as I'm concerned, it's
much better than Edge, which to me is about the worst browser
available.


They both suck.




Yes, I agree.


They're both full of security holes.



Not in my experience.


Like Outlook Express, they love to run code they shouldn't.

They both stop working for no reason.



Not in my experience, although admittedly I've used both so seldom
that I can't be sure. However my wife uses Edge (don't ask me why; I
have idea) and as far as I know, has *never* experienced that.


I just tried Edge on a site that Opera was upset with (Eurocarparts - the menu at the bottom of the screen covers the part I'm trying to buy). Edge claimed I have no internet connection, yet everything else works fine!!

And by the way, since you didn't know that Internet Explorer 11 came
with Windows 10, you never ran it. And since you never ran it, your
three "both" statements above are nonsense. You couldn't know that if
you hadn't run it.


Who said I didn't run it? I had to, so it would give me Edge.
  #94  
Old January 8th 19, 11:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:51:15 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:57:31 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:55:16 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 00:02:34 -0000, Ken Blake wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jan 2019 23:45:14 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jan 2019 21:00:01 -0000, notX wrote:

On 1/4/19 10:45 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/4/2019 10:30 AM, wrote:
I'm staying happily with 7 .

I occasionally ask for one good reason to go to 10 and nobody has
given one. Lots of good reasons NOT to go to 10 !

Name one good reason for staying with W-7 which is obsolete!

It's not Win 8 or Win 10.

Just like DOS, Internet explorer, Lotus, dBase, and other software that
has come and gone in the last 40 years

Internet Explorer "come and gone". I like that.

Just because it's now called Edge doesn't mean it's gone. Edge is still here and it still sux. Currently it tells me I have no internet connection, yet every other browser works. WTF? And as per usual with modern fluffy programs that act like a ****ing Apple Mac, all I get is a silly cartoon with a confused looking alien saying no internet. What about some ****ing technical information so I can fix the problem?!?

It is *not* now called Edge. Internet Explorer and Edge are two
different browsers, and *both* of them come with Windows 10.

So you get the old and the new version, so what, it doesn't change what I just said.



Say something wrong, get corrected, and say "it doesn't change what I
just said." That's a great way to lose the respect of everyone here.

And it's not "the old and the new version." They are two *different*
browsers.


No, they changed the name.



There are certainly similarities, but there are significant
differences, too. As far as I'm concerned, it's much more than
changing the name.


Just like Windows Live Mail and Outlook Express.



No, to me it's not at all like that. With Outlook Express and Windows
Live Mail, one replaced the other, and Windows Live Mail is almost
like a newer version of Outlook Express. With Edge and IE, one is not
a replacement for the other (at least not yet). They continue to live
simultaneously and their differences are much greater than those
between Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail.



Of course they'll be a bit different, but so are two versions of IE.



Yes, there are similarities between Edge and IE 11, but the
differences are much greater than between two versions of IE. In my
opinion IE 11 isn't great, but it's much better than Edge.



They're both the same **** made my Microsoft.




I wouldn't say it like that, but as I said (quoted below) I agree,


It's some legal bull**** because they weren't allowed to have edge as the default browser or something.



Again, not correct. Despite their both coming with Windows 10, Edge
*is* the default browser.


No it isn't. I've always had Internet Explorer given to me as the default, which then immediately asks me if I'd like to try out Edge. I assumed that was more legal bull****.



You are wrong. Unless you configure Windows 10 differently, Edge *is*
the default browser.

Since Edge is the default, there are a very number of Windows 10 users
(maybe most of them, including you) who don't even realize that IE
comes with Windows 10.



I'm not a fan of Internet Explorer, but as far as I'm concerned, it's
much better than Edge, which to me is about the worst browser
available.

They both suck.




Yes, I agree.


They're both full of security holes.



Not in my experience.


Like Outlook Express, they love to run code they shouldn't.

They both stop working for no reason.



Not in my experience, although admittedly I've used both so seldom
that I can't be sure. However my wife uses Edge (don't ask me why; I
have idea) and as far as I know, has *never* experienced that.


I just tried Edge on a site that Opera was upset with (Eurocarparts - the menu at the bottom of the screen covers the part I'm trying to buy). Edge claimed I have no internet connection, yet everything else works fine!!



That's *your* experience. I've never encountered that, and none of the
many other Edge users I know and support have either.


And by the way, since you didn't know that Internet Explorer 11 came
with Windows 10, you never ran it. And since you never ran it, your
three "both" statements above are nonsense. You couldn't know that if
you hadn't run it.


Who said I didn't run it?




*You* said it. Here's a quote from an earlier message in this thread:


Just like DOS, Internet explorer, Lotus, dBase, and other software that
has come and gone in the last 40 years

Internet Explorer "come and gone". I like that.

Just because it's now called Edge doesn't mean it's gone.



That last sentence was by you. If you thought Internet Explorer was
now called Edge, you obviously didn't know that Internet Explorer was
a separate program from Edge, didn't know it came with Windows 10, and
you had never run it.




I had to, so it would give me Edge.



You had to run IE so you could download Edge? Your ignorance is
showing blatantly again. Edge comes with Windows 10, as I've said here
several times.
  #95  
Old January 8th 19, 11:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:12:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:


Since Edge is the default, there are a very number of Windows 10 users
(maybe most of them, including you) who don't even realize that IE
comes with Windows 10.



That should be "very large number," of course.
  #96  
Old January 9th 19, 12:22 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 08/01/2019 13:50, Mayayana wrote:
"David B." "David wrote

| Did you watch the video?
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3_lIPESVTw
|

If you want people to follow your links then you
should explain them. I think I'm not alone in ignoring
links that are not explained. I figure that if people
don't have the time or interest to explain what they're
talking about then there's not much sense in my
researching it.


I accept your point! :-)

Even less so when it's described as "the worst thing
online". Why would I want to see the worst thing online?


I'm impressed by your stolidity! ;-)

THIS facility is recommended by BTS on his website (Tekrider.net)

http://websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

However, when using the tool to review the www.tekrider.net website, I
don't get the result which I expected. Can you determine the reason for
that?

Copy/paste from the site:-

Here is a small collection of Web page authoring tips, about HTML,
XHTML, CSS, and other stuff:

How to assign your font sizes
To XHTML or not to XHTML, that is the question
Three Logos and a Baby (how to align images in a banner)
A pixel grid with margin set to zero
A pixel grid with margin left at default
(Press your Back button after viewing a grid)
Do you validate your HTML ↗ ?
Do you validate your CSS ↗ ?
Do you test your pages for optimization ↗ ?
Remember, there are still people using dialup.

Designing/authoring for the WWW is fun, but we authors should take some
steps to be sure we create our pages correctly, with visitor
accessibility and usability in mind.

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David B.
  #97  
Old January 9th 19, 02:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mayayana
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"David B." "David wrote

|
| However, when using the tool to review the www.tekrider.net website, I
| don't get the result which I expected. Can you determine the reason for
| that?
|

I don't understand the battle between you two and have
no intention of joining in.


  #98  
Old January 9th 19, 04:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Beauregard T. Shagnasty[_2_]
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David B. STALKER wrote:

THIS facility is recommended by BTS on his website

http://

However, when using the tool to review the www.tekrider.net website, I
don't get the result which I expected. Can you determine the reason for
that?


The site has been immunized from your STALKING it. But you keep trying.
You are in _imminent danger of having your picture reinstated_, as you
have certainly *NOT UPHELD YOUR END OF OUR BARGAIN*. Do you understand
this?

Copy/paste from the site:-


See? More stalking... and abuse of copyrighted material as well. You have
NO permission to copy my work to anywhere else on the Internet and you
have been told this REPEATEDLY.

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  #99  
Old January 9th 19, 01:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/01/2019 01:55, Mayayana wrote:
"David B." "David wrote

|
| However, when using the tool to review the www.tekrider.net website, I
| don't get the result which I expected. Can you determine the reason for
| that?
|


I don't understand the battle between you two and have
no intention of joining in.


Truthfully, 'mayayana', even *I* have no idea why BTS is concerned about
me viewing/reviewing his website. :-(

Why have one if he doesn't want people to look at it and learn all
manner of things simply not known to an everyday Internet surfer?

He will not talk to me about it. https://imgur.com/gallery/ftMdMd1

There is a long thread here which explains exactly where I am coming
from. When I was scammed for £245.00 back in 2005 - and then menacingly
threatened with a personal visit - our police High-Tech Crime Unit
advised me to learn as much about malware and 'bad guys' as I could.

https://www.speedguide.net/forums/sh...User-newsgroup

You'll note that BTS willingly helped me at the start of my journey. At
that stage he had no idea that I'd eventually find 'code' on HIS
website! He claims it wasn't there - but it came from SOMEWHERE (or I'd
never have found it!).

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  #100  
Old January 9th 19, 01:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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David B. wrote:

Truthfully, 'mayayana', even *I* have no idea why BTS is concerned about
me viewing/reviewing his website. :-(

Why have one if he doesn't want people to look at it and learn all
manner of things simply not known to an everyday Internet surfer?

He will not talk to me about it. https://imgur.com/gallery/ftMdMd1


Simple, it is exactly what the error says, obviously the mail server he
uses was down at that time...

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
  #101  
Old January 9th 19, 04:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/01/2019 12:37, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
David B. wrote:

Truthfully, 'mayayana', even *I* have no idea why BTS is concerned about
me viewing/reviewing his website. :-(

Why have one if he doesn't want people to look at it and learn all
manner of things simply not known to an everyday Internet surfer?

He will not talk to me about it. https://imgur.com/gallery/ftMdMd1


Simple, it is exactly what the error says, obviously the mail server he
uses was down at that time...


Ah! Thanks for that, Jonathan. :-)

Can you similarly explain what I found LAST year?

The short 'story' is he-

https://productforums.google.com/for...rs/Luf9vanU5zM

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  #102  
Old January 9th 19, 04:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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David B. wrote:

Ah! Thanks for that, Jonathan. :-)

Can you similarly explain what I found LAST year?

The short 'story' is he-

https://productforums.google.com/for...rs/Luf9vanU5zM


I have multiple times, why would once more be the one you accept?

Your system *injected* the code. You are using either a browser plugin
or "security" software that runs your web traffic through a proxy to
filter "unsafe" content.

That code is *not* on techrider.net's server (FULL STOP).

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
  #103  
Old January 9th 19, 04:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Your system *injected* the code.


If you look at headers, he spends most of
his time on a Mac, so you'd be looking for
an *Apple* inspired injection mechanism.

Paul
  #104  
Old January 9th 19, 04:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jonathan N. Little[_2_]
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Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Your system *injected* the code.


If you look at headers, he spends most of
his time on a Mac, so you'd be looking for
an *Apple* inspired injection mechanism.


Such "security" snakeoil is not confined to Windows. Whatever the code
is not on the site.


--
Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
  #105  
Old January 9th 19, 05:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/01/2019 15:57, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Paul wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Your system *injected* the code.


If you look at headers, he spends most of
his time on a Mac, so you'd be looking for
an *Apple* inspired injection mechanism.


Such "security" snakeoil is not confined to Windows. Whatever the code
is not on the site.


Silly question then - why has the site been blocked to 'tools' which
scour websites for 'information' - just 'sour grapes' perhaps?

I'm easily confused, I don't deny that! ;-)

Here's a for-instance:-

Littleworksstudio.com snoop summary

This is a free and comprehensive report about littleworksstudio.com. The
domain littleworksstudio.com is currently hosted on a server located in
with the IP address 107.170.132.75. The website littleworksstudio.com is
expected to be earning an estimated $0 USD on a daily basis. If
littleworksstudio.com was to be sold it would possibly only be worth $10
USD (the typical cost of the registration fee for the domain name).
According to our moz rank analysis, the url littleworksstudio.com
currently has a moz rank of 1/10. littleworksstudio.com possibly
receives an estimated 0 unique visitors every day - this website is not
very popular. This report was last updated 10th January 2019.

More info he-

http://littleworksstudio.com.w3snoop.com/update

=

Is this true?

Why do you have a website if you have no visitors?

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/littleworksstudio.com

--
David B.
 




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