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  #16  
Old June 15th 19, 05:27 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
David B.[_15_]
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On 15/06/2019 15:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David B.
writes:
On 15/06/2019 14:27, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[....]

Can you view here, John?

https://www.facebook.com/TheFleetAir...os/a.166693756
784059/2245600088893405/?type=3&theater

I knew some of these guys personally.

May they rest in peace.


I can (though I rarely view facebook pages), but I'm totally at a loss
as to what this has to do with either where this thread started, or
where it had moved.


It's a very long story - going way back to 2005

This poster is known fondly as '...winston'

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
ms mvp windows 2007-2019

Almost certainly an American, he lurks in these Usenet groups but also
has a leading role as the 'moderator' of Usenet-type newsgroups which
are now up and running on a private server in the UK.

The clientele of those newsgroups on the www.dogagent.com or
www.myplugbox.com servers (the same groups are on each - I've no idea
why) believe that their activities and posts are *private* - a view
encouraged by 'Winston'.

They are *NOT* private groups - anyone is free to visit them.

You'll find a bit of history he-

https://alt.windows7.general.narkive...-natoli#post21

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Devon, UK
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  #17  
Old June 15th 19, 05:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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David B. wrote:
On 15/06/2019 15:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David B.
writes:
On 15/06/2019 14:27, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[....]

Can you view here, John?

https://www.facebook.com/TheFleetAir...os/a.166693756
784059/2245600088893405/?type=3&theater

I knew some of these guys personally.

May they rest in peace.


I can (though I rarely view facebook pages), but I'm totally at a loss
as to what this has to do with either where this thread started, or
where it had moved.


It's a very long story - going way back to 2005

This poster is known fondly as '...winston'

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
ms mvp windows 2007-2019

Almost certainly an American, he lurks in these Usenet groups but also
has a leading role as the 'moderator' of Usenet-type newsgroups which
are now up and running on a private server in the UK.

The clientele of those newsgroups on the www.dogagent.com or
www.myplugbox.com servers (the same groups are on each - I've no idea
why) believe that their activities and posts are *private* - a view
encouraged by 'Winston'.

They are *NOT* private groups - anyone is free to visit them.

You'll find a bit of history he-

https://alt.windows7.general.narkive...-natoli#post21


They are "by invitation only" servers, judging by their
poor presentation on their main site. In the computer
science sense, they may be "public" in terms of allowing
you to index the site, or read the posts, but in terms
of posting to them, no attempt has been made to make
it easy to figure out. And that's where the "by invitation only"
part comes in. Someone tells you the trick, and then
"you're a member of the club".

That means, maybe you can see the posts, but they're not
conventional forums.

Some conventional forums, use commercial BBS software, and
you're required to fill out an account form. On such sites,
you can easily find the new account page, to fill out your
particulars. You can be banned from such forums, for not
following the TOS, and you then lose the ability to post.

The two web sites you name, do not seem to have conventional
interfaces and "don't invite the unwashed masses" to join.
The forums probably have the usual features for TOSsing
unwanted pests.

When I see the presentation on those two sites, I just
walk away, as I can see what kind of site it is. I
wouldn't be even remotely interested in the content,
whatever it is.

Paul
  #18  
Old June 15th 19, 05:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.computer.workshop
David B.[_15_]
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On 15/06/2019 16:26, Paul wrote:
Shadow wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:26:56 +0100, "David B."
wrote:


It appears that I'm being far too subtle for you, dear Paul! ;-)

'Shadow' claimed that a recent post by '...STALKING_TARGET' is a "Fake"

Message-ID:

I personally don't think it *IS* fake. What is YOUR opinion, please?


David popping up out of no-where, "smells of a campaign".

I don't think Winston is Moriarty.

Not the last time I checked.

Now, where's that damned Watson.

Â*Â* Paul


This isn't a *NEW* campaign, Paul - it goes WAY back!

Here's a reminder for some and an education for others.

https://alt.windows7.general.narkive...-natoli#post21

This post was made by the then MVP C.Winston Natoli - now shown in the
thread as being "A.User"

A. User Replied on October 11, 2014

ReplyIn reply to Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]'s post on October 10, 2014

It appears that the thread you've referenced, if the URL is correct, has
been deleted by a forum moderator or owner.

As it should have been.
Microsoft Answers is not the place to post copied content from a forum
(AnnexCafe) that is private property per its owner and Terms of Service.
This entire thread should also be deleted by the appropriate (or any)
forum moderator.

=

Winston had been caught out manipulating posts by me and Mr Jones.

https://www.phillipmjones.net/

He thought he was too clever to ever be caught - but he was! ;-)

He should hang his head in shame .... and admit to the folk who trust
him to keep them safe that it's all one great big scam.

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  #19  
Old June 15th 19, 06:02 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Shadow
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:27:42 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

It's a very long story - going way back to 2005


Almost 15 years, over 10.000 stalking posts, you never give
up, do you, even after the target is long dead?

CUT_PERSONAL_NAMES


Almost certainly an American, he lurks in these Usenet groups but also
has a leading role as the moderator of Usenet-type newsgroups which
are now up and running on a private server in the UK.


You "forgot" to mention that as the moderator of the PRIVATE
newsgroup (signing up and agreeing to the TOS is mandatory) he
*BANNED* you for obsessive stalking of, who was it 15 years ago,
aunhahaha ? I don't keep notes.
So you posted again and again to that and other PRIVATE forums
under #FAKE_NYMS and were repeatedly *BANNED*.

Here are a few of these #FAKE_NYMS

https://web.archive.org/web/20190603181837/http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

Read carefully about revealing ANY personal information.

STALKING targets include (munged) Wistron, dogadoga agent,
aunhahaha, the programmer of a Mac AV, Dusty, Dave lipsman, B Tee Ess,
Mike EastaHollidays, Charlie Jack, various M$ forums, DEAD MVPS's (he
posts their obituaries and says they were crooks and insults their
families), Betting_music, and , well the list just goes on and on.

Anyone that's unable to get the general idea deserves to be
STALKED and BLACKMAILED (he WILL phone/email RL work colleagues,
spouses and even children, if he can get their names).
OFF TOPIC. Didn't put an OT up because it might hit a
potential victim's filters.
HTH
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  #20  
Old June 15th 19, 08:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.computer.workshop
David B.[_15_]
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On 15/06/2019 17:39, Paul wrote:
David B. wrote:
On 15/06/2019 15:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David B.
writes:
On 15/06/2019 14:27, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[....]

Can you view here, John?

https://www.facebook.com/TheFleetAir...os/a.166693756

784059/2245600088893405/?type=3&theater

I knew some of these guys personally.

May they rest in peace.

I can (though I rarely view facebook pages), but I'm totally at a
loss as to what this has to do with either where this thread started,
or where it had moved.


It's a very long story - going way back to 2005

This poster is known fondly as '...winston'

Â*Â* ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
Â*Â* ms mvp windows 2007-2019

Almost certainly an American, he lurks in these Usenet groups but also
has a leading role as the 'moderator' of Usenet-type newsgroups which
are now up and running on a private server in the UK.

The clientele of those newsgroups on the www.dogagent.com or
www.myplugbox.com servers (the same groups are on each - I've no idea
why) believe that their activities and posts are *private* - a view
encouraged by 'Winston'.

They are *NOT* private groups - anyone is free to visit them.

You'll find a bit of history he-

https://alt.windows7.general.narkive...-natoli#post21


They are "by invitation only" servers, judging by their
poor presentation on their main site. In the computer
science sense, they may be "public" in terms of allowing
you to index the site, or read the posts, but in terms
of posting to them, no attempt has been made to make
it easy to figure out. And that's where the "by invitation only"
part comes in. Someone tells you the trick, and then
"you're a member of the club".

That means, maybe you can see the posts, but they're not
conventional forums.

Some conventional forums, use commercial BBS software, and
you're required to fill out an account form. On such sites,
you can easily find the new account page, to fill out your
particulars. You can be banned from such forums, for not
following the TOS, and you then lose the ability to post.

The two web sites you name, do not seem to have conventional
interfaces and "don't invite the unwashed masses" to join.
The forums probably have the usual features for TOSsing
unwanted pests.

When I see the presentation on those two sites, I just
walk away, as I can see what kind of site it is. I
wouldn't be even remotely interested in the content,
whatever it is.

Â*Â* Paul


You are one of the most honest and trustworthy posters I've ever come
across on Usenet, Paul. Thanks for bothering to take a look.

I am a little confused though. As *I* see things there, it's almost
identical to how I see things on Usenet groups (using Thunderbird). Can
you, please, show me a screenshot of what you can see if you visit the
User2User (computer help) newsgroup there?

Btw, "Shadow' has things completely wrong - no permission is required to
use the forums and there is no password access/protection for users.

--
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Devon, UK


  #21  
Old June 15th 19, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.computer.workshop
David B.[_16_]
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On 15/06/2019 20:55, David B. added an image of what HE sees!

https://imgur.com/a/wkBtMbV

Do you believe me now?

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  #22  
Old June 15th 19, 09:22 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
David B.[_16_]
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On 15/06/2019 15:16, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David B.
writes:
On 15/06/2019 14:27, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

[....]

Can you view here, John?

https://www.facebook.com/TheFleetAir...os/a.166693756
784059/2245600088893405/?type=3&theater

I knew some of these guys personally.

May they rest in peace.


I can (though I rarely view facebook pages), but I'm totally at a loss
as to what this has to do with either where this thread started, or
where it had moved.


Can you view the image here, John?

https://imgur.com/a/wkBtMbV

Can you also access the User2User newsgroup through the
news.dogagent.com server?

Please advise.

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  #23  
Old June 15th 19, 10:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general,alt.computer.workshop
Shadow
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 20:55:03 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

On 15/06/2019 17:39, Paul wrote:


..... slight CUT....

I wouldn't be even remotely interested in the content,
whatever it is.

** Paul


You are one of the most honest and trustworthy posters I've ever come
across on Usenet, Paul.


Well, we agree on something.

I am a little confused though


What part of "I wouldn't be even remotely interested in the
content, whatever it is." made you "confused" ?

Maybe I can help. Here we go:
Maybe you shouldn't drink so much before posting?
Did that help? If it did, YW.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190603181837/http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
[]'s

STALKING_TEXT_REMOVED

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  #24  
Old June 16th 19, 07:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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David B. wrote:
On 15/06/2019 20:55, David B. added an image of what HE sees!

https://imgur.com/a/wkBtMbV

Do you believe me now?


Connected.

But normal protocol is to have a web page with the
port number and so on. And a TOS of course.

The "user_to_user" looks like a support group.

Are you banned from there ? :-)

I guess they'll have to block most of England
to keep you out :-)

Paul
  #25  
Old June 16th 19, 12:41 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Shadow
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 02:03:26 -0400, Paul
wrote:

David B. wrote:
On 15/06/2019 20:55, David B. added an image of what HE sees!

CUT_POSSIBLY_MALICIOUS_URL

Do you believe me now?


Connected.

But normal protocol is to have a web page with the
port number and so on. And a TOS of course.


The OP doesn't "do" TOS.

The "user_to_user" looks like a support group.

Are you banned from there ? :-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SDInk6voA


I guess they'll have to block most of England
to keep you out :-)


No, only any posts from his BT ISP. He briefly tried a VPN but
had his posts removed when they ID'd him by illegal content.
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  #26  
Old June 16th 19, 04:31 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:49:21 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

So what software should you be updating?

Security software. Whether you use antivirus or firewall programs that
were pre-installed on your device or that you bought on your own, make
sure they’re up to date.

Operating system software. Your operating system could be Windows, Apple
OS, etc. If you’re not sure how to update your operating system, go to
the website of your device manufacturer for help.


So why are you posting this here?

An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich enough
to buy a new computer every few months.

Internet browsers and apps. Both are access points for criminals to
enter your devices, so it’s important to keep them secure.


I downdated my browser when it got too bloated to run on my OS. The
newest version tells me it won't run at all, get a new computer.
Whuich means getyting a new2 OS, and finding that hal my software
won't run on it.

..



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  #27  
Old June 16th 19, 05:30 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Shadow
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:31:54 +0200, Steve Hayes
wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 17:49:21 +0100, "David B."
wrote:

So what software should you be updating?

Operating system software. Your operating system could be Windows, Apple
OS, etc. If you’re not sure how to update your operating system, go to
the website of your device manufacturer for help.


So why are you posting this here?


I posted a fake follow up and he fell for it.

Message-ID:

And admitted he was just phishing for suckers. He has
absolutely no interest in updating software. As far as I can make out,
his only interests are how many full bottles are left in his
hiding-place, and how many people he can hurt.

Get to know him better.... (or just Google "David Brooks
Devon")

https://web.archive.org/web/20190603181837/http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
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  #28  
Old June 16th 19, 05:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mike Easter
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x-posts deleted; XPgen only

Steve Hayes wrote:
An updated O/s probably wouldn't run on my computer -- not enough
resources. People are using Windows XP because they aren't rich enough
to buy a new computer every few months.


I downdated my browser when it got too bloated to run on my OS. The
newest version tells me it won't run at all, get a new computer.
Whuich means getyting a new2 OS, and finding that hal my software
won't run on it.


I also have a couple of XP-era machines with fairly low resources, One
of them is a Dell laptop I inherited from a friend when he got a newer
laptop. It has a 2006 BIOS, a 600 MHz 32bit Pentium M cpu, 1 G ram,
ancient IBM graphics. I don't use its XP installation to go online, but
I still use XP for 'stuff'. Its previous 'operational' OS was a linux
Mint 17.3 XFCE for online activity. When that support ran out, I moved
on to MX linux, now at 18.3 which is also XFCE DE. It also runs fine
and securely.

The other one is a Compaq desktop also 2006 BIOS which is stronger, w/
2G ram, 64bit AMD at 1000 MHz, NVidia gfx. Its browser is an 'expired'
Chrome 49.0; but I don't use that to 'surf' but only to access a
specific site.

I guess my point in an XP group, not a linux one, is that we should use
our old hardware 'very carefully' and linux is a useful solution, but
old Win OSes have a place.

I also have a Vista-era laptop w/ 2008 bios, 2G w/ 64bit 800 MHz AMD
cpu. It can run lean v of Win7 and of course various linux.


--
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  #29  
Old June 16th 19, 05:37 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David B.[_7_]
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On 16/06/2019 00:45, Mike Easter wrote:
David B. wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:


dogagentÂ* - da- & myplugbox - mpb- news are the same place.


Why do they have different Body lengths and SHA references, Mike?


That isn't important in this discussion.Â* The important thing is that
unlike web sites in which the NAME/path is (usually/ most often/ but not
necessarily) essential to a web server, in the case of a news server,
the server is (actually) accessed at/by its IP.Â* So, if two nntp servers
have the same IP address, then the same server is answering the client.

The server at 212.56.88.149 answers as myplugbox.com on port 119 and
gives the server software v. and says posting is OK (to me).

Final URL
http://www.myplugbox.com/
Serving IP Address
212.56.88.149


http://www.dogagent.com/
Serving IP Address
212.56.88.149



e-s is also comparable to the da & mpb server in that if you access
the e-s server w/o user/pass you will see some (small) subset of the
groups carried, ie the e-s groups only.Â* Similarly, if you access the
da/mpb server, you will see the subset of the groups which provide
access w/o login, but you will NOT see all of the groups, such as
pizzazz.


I do see 19 groups.


I expect you see 16; don't count anything which is a name of a group
family but isn't actually a group, such as fun/ fun.seniors/
fun.seniors.over50.Â* That's one group over50..

Apart from Pizzazz, which other groups are not shown to me?


I don't know that.Â* 16 groups are shown to 'everyone' (no user/pass).Â* I
don't have any special credentials.


Here's a list of the groups I CAN see: https://imgur.com/gallery/Xt9uwtL

Are they the same as those which YOU see?

In order to see groups which limit access, you have to give a
user/pass and that requires some communication process by which you
and a moderator arrive at a user/pass to see the user/pass restricted
groups.


How would you feel about introducing me to the moderator of the
Pizzazz group so that I may request to join?

Absolutely not.Â* You are persona non grata around there.Â* They don't
want your input,Â* I think in any group, much less the private ones.Â* I
expect/suspect that if you would try to post you would probably get a
request for user/pass in any group including u2u.


That's the long-standing puzzle for me. Excluding whatever dear
'...winston' has to say about matters, which other individuals have a
'problem' with me? I've never tried to cause anyone any harm.

Are you aware that I have no problem whatsoever with other Annexcafe
refugees - those that are here on the Facebook photography group:-

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Anne...owcaseMembers/

Maybe some of our group members are posters on the Dogagent newsgroups.
Perhaps I'll ask them!

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Devon, UK
  #30  
Old June 16th 19, 05:55 PM posted to alt.computer.workshop,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,alt.windows7.general
Fake Bill Gates
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On 16/06/2019 17:30, Shadow wrote:
And admitted he was just phishing for suckers. He has absolutely no
interest in updating software.


Killfile him and spare the rest of us your replication of his nonsense.




 




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