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  #166  
Old July 12th 17, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In article , Char Jackson
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just because people call it a modem doesn't make it a modem.


Good luck with that.


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  #167  
Old July 13th 17, 12:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On 12/07/2017 21:22, micky wrote:
Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.


!?!?!?!?!?!?
  #168  
Old July 13th 17, 02:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:29:29 +0000 (UTC) "Dan Jenkins" djenkins4556
@plusnet.uk wrote in article
Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?

WiFi has more range than bluetooth by far. BT is spec'd for 10 meters max,
'tho it seems to exceed that sometimes.
  #169  
Old July 13th 17, 03:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Jason wrote:

Do you know which of these hardware choices goes best through floors?


WiFi has more range than bluetooth by far. BT is spec'd for 10 meters max,


for class 2 devices, which are the most common.

class 1 can go further, but they're rare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Uses
Officially Class 3 radios have a range of up to 1 metre (3*ft), Class
2, most commonly found in mobile devices, 10 metres (33*ft), and
Class 1, primarily for industrial use cases,100 metres (300*ft).
Bluetooth Marketing qualifies that Class 1 range is in most cases
20*30 metres (66*98*ft), and Class 2 range 5*10 metres (16*33*ft).

'tho it seems to exceed that sometimes.


because it can.
  #170  
Old July 13th 17, 06:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:18:17 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

On 2017-07-11 22:59, nospam wrote:
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:

Or maybe his computer connects directly to an Internet modem and
there is no WiFi AP.

highly unlikely since broadband modems have wifi built in.

Not all.
Broadband routers do have WiFi almost always.

that's what i said.

Modems, which connect to a single computer, do not.

modems are obsolete.


Maybe in the USA, but many people are using them.

Hint: a modem doesn't necessarily mean a POTS thing. Rather, a fibre or
cable thing, doing perhaps 100 Mbps.


You may call such a thing a modem, and you are far from alone. Many
people call that cable thing a "modem," but they are wrong. The word
"modem" is short for MODulator-DEModulator. It's a device that
translates an analog signal into a digital one, and vice versa. Cable
is digital to begin with, so there is no translation necessary.


Coming back to this point:

What makes you say "Cable is digital to begin with, ...."?

Assuming with "cable", you mean the coax cable part of a cable
network (mostly a HFC network). that part is analog, not digital. The
signals on the coax cable are analog signals, use RF, use analog signal
splitters, etc..

As to a cable modem not having a modulator/demodulator: DOCSIS, i.e.
cable modems, uses QAM (Quadrature Amplitude Modulation) and hence *do*
contain a demodulator (for the downstream) and a modulator (for the
upstream).

Some references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Physical_layer
(mentions the 'Modulation:' used)

"DOCSIS and Cable Modems How it works :: Advanced RF"
https://volpefirm.com/docsis101_advanced-rf
  #171  
Old July 14th 17, 01:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:43:39 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." wrote:


Or maybe his computer connects directly to an Internet modem and
there is no WiFi AP.


highly unlikely since broadband modems have wifi built in.


Not all.
Broadband routers do have WiFi almost always.


I bought a router at a hamfest, even though I didn't need it, because it
looked xactly like mine and I figure if mine failed, I could just swap t
hem. well the power supply failed and I went to the other one and I
saw it didn't come with a power supply. But then I noticed it didnt'
have an antenna. But it has 4 output jacks for internet cables.


Modems, which connect to a single computer, do not.

There are cities where you get a (single) RJ11 socket to connect your
computer to the wall in the flat. But no WiFi.


Maybe he doesn't live at his home, so he can not
contract Internet.Maybe he connects via mobile and USB.


the other home probably has internet.


What other home?


Ask him. Maybe he will tell, maybe not. :-)


i did.

It does not matter to me.


obviously.


Good!

--
Cheers, Carlos.


  #172  
Old July 14th 17, 02:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:34:14 +0000 (UTC), Lionel
Muller wrote:

For alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth Wolf
K wrote:


But for most people, a "modem" is what connects you to the internet, no
matter how. Function is more important than operation. That's why we
still talk about the "shift lever" even though it no longer shifts the
gears in an automatic transmission.


Just to throw another word into the mix, I'm on WISP which means I don't
have a "modem", per se.

I have a transceiver!

I've learned never to tall that to any customer support people for routers,
or Ooma, or Vonage, etc.

I just tell them I have a "modem" and then they're happy.


I learned never to tell such a person that I use Eudora.

The Care and Feeding of Customer Support People is very important.
  #173  
Old July 14th 17, 02:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 13 Jul 2017 00:04:37 +0100, Patrick
wrote:

On 12/07/2017 21:22, micky wrote:
Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.


!?!?!?!?!?!?


I learned you have to buy an international bluetooth dongle to play
music (and news) from other continents.
  #174  
Old July 14th 17, 02:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:08:08 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." wrote:


as i said, most laptops made in the past 10 years and certainly the
last 5 years have 5 ghz 802.11n (possibly 802.11ac).


Not mine, certainly.

So, will you be generous? :-)


Not mine either. It's an acer made 6 years ago.

Maybe he'll buy us new laptops?
  #175  
Old July 14th 17, 03:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.


!?!?!?!?!?!?


I learned you have to buy an international bluetooth dongle to play
music (and news) from other continents.


You must have bought the Right Hand Drive version, if you put it in one
of these 180 degree adapters it'll be fine :-)

https://www.amazon.com/180-Adapter/dp/B01IZO8I88
  #176  
Old July 14th 17, 06:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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Andy Burns wrote:
micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.

!?!?!?!?!?!?


I learned you have to buy an international bluetooth dongle to play
music (and news) from other continents.


You must have bought the Right Hand Drive version, if you put it in one
of these 180 degree adapters it'll be fine :-)

https://www.amazon.com/180-Adapter/dp/B01IZO8I88


Don't you think it's mean to get our hopes up by posting this!?

I thought "Finally! This is EXACTLY what I need for my upcoming trip
down-under!", but the website says "This item does not ship to
Netherlands."!

So now I'll have to put my whole laptop upside-down when I'm in Oz,
which will make it very akward to use! Bummer!
  #177  
Old July 14th 17, 07:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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On 2017-07-14 19:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.

!?!?!?!?!?!?

I learned you have to buy an international bluetooth dongle to play
music (and news) from other continents.


You must have bought the Right Hand Drive version, if you put it in one
of these 180 degree adapters it'll be fine :-)

https://www.amazon.com/180-Adapter/dp/B01IZO8I88


Don't you think it's mean to get our hopes up by posting this!?

I thought "Finally! This is EXACTLY what I need for my upcoming trip
down-under!", but the website says "This item does not ship to
Netherlands."!

So now I'll have to put my whole laptop upside-down when I'm in Oz,
which will make it very akward to use! Bummer!


You will also be upside down, so no problem there, as long as you get
spare selfgrip soles™

--
Cheers, Carlos.
  #178  
Old July 15th 17, 10:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on 14 Jul 2017 17:31:34 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:
micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.

!?!?!?!?!?!?

I learned you have to buy an international bluetooth dongle to play
music (and news) from other continents.


You must have bought the Right Hand Drive version, if you put it in one
of these 180 degree adapters it'll be fine :-)

https://www.amazon.com/180-Adapter/dp/B01IZO8I88


Yes, that will fix it.

Don't you think it's mean to get our hopes up by posting this!?

I thought "Finally! This is EXACTLY what I need for my upcoming trip
down-under!", but the website says "This item does not ship to
Netherlands."!

So now I'll have to put my whole laptop upside-down when I'm in Oz,
which will make it very akward to use! Bummer!


Just use a mirror. A real glass mirror.
  #179  
Old July 15th 17, 10:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:35:31 +0200, "Carlos
E.R." wrote:

On 2017-07-14 19:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

micky wrote:

Patrick wrote:

Bluetooth V2 USB_Dongle
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?LH...gle+V2&_sop=12

I got one of these but it only works with British music.

!?!?!?!?!?!?

I learned you have to buy an international bluetooth dongle to play
music (and news) from other continents.

You must have bought the Right Hand Drive version, if you put it in one
of these 180 degree adapters it'll be fine :-)

https://www.amazon.com/180-Adapter/dp/B01IZO8I88


Don't you think it's mean to get our hopes up by posting this!?

I thought "Finally! This is EXACTLY what I need for my upcoming trip
down-under!", but the website says "This item does not ship to
Netherlands."!

So now I'll have to put my whole laptop upside-down when I'm in Oz,
which will make it very akward to use! Bummer!


You will also be upside down, so no problem there, as long as you get
spare selfgrip soles™


Whatever you do, don't drop anything in Australia, or it will fly off
into space.
  #180  
Old July 15th 17, 04:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.bluetooth
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In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:42:15 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:24:46 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:38:01 -0400, nospam
wrote:

just because people call it a modem doesn't make it a modem.


Good luck with that.



What, nospam said something I agree with? That's a first!

And yes, I know that when usage gravitates toward something that is
incorrect, the error becomes established after a while. That's part of
the nature of the history of all languages. There are many such
example in English. But I'm an old fuddy-duddy, and I object to such
changes. I know that sooner or later, I'm going to lose on almost all
such issues, but that doesn't mean I have to like them.


The trouble with what he said, above, is that he's using an adverbial
clause as the subject of a sentence. Adverbs should be used to modify
verbs, adjectives, or other adverbs, not as nouns. There are two ways
to say it correctly:

That people call it a modem doesn't make it a modem.

It isn't a modem just because people call it a modem,

Using it the way he does, which is commonplace but incorrect, is
equivalent to using the word modem for things which are not modems, also
commonplace but incorrect.
 




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