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  #31  
Old October 3rd 16, 11:39 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system
Nathan Hale
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
Anonymous wrote:

In article nospam wrote:

now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to
apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely
legal.

also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax
code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do
the same thing.

after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu.

in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's questionable
whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN
1180WR


The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries Ireland
tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless
nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was
paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due
to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed companies
to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the
economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be bailed
out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits.

When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that farce,
time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be mutual.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html


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  #32  
Old October 3rd 16, 11:48 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
GreyCloud
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
...

Fritz Wuehler
wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent
holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding
with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing
nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without
vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want and
selling them at prices those people are willing to pay?


Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant
prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to
buy it as a fashion statement.


I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people
who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment
they take the system out of the box and so forth.
And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that.
That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or
software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all
controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes
in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in
profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.


It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've
been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court
over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank
why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your
fanboyism for a day to look it up.


As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their
shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally
required.

The same goes for Trump BTW.
What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using
every line in the tax code to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year.
Key word LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She wrote
off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info from Hannity
off of his radio network.

  #33  
Old October 3rd 16, 11:55 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Jim Polaski
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Posts: 3
Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal)loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
...

Fritz Wuehler
wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent
holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding
with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing
nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without
vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want and
selling them at prices those people are willing to pay?

Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant
prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to
buy it as a fashion statement.


I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people
who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment
they take the system out of the box and so forth.
And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that.
That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or
software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all
controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes
in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in
profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.

It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've
been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court
over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank
why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your
fanboyism for a day to look it up.


As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their
shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally
required.

The same goes for Trump BTW.
What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using
every line in the tax code to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year.
Key word LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She wrote
off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info from Hannity
off of his radio network.


Probably because the local landfill refused to take it.

  #34  
Old October 3rd 16, 11:59 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Alan Baker
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 2016-10-03 3:26 PM, Mongoose wrote:


"nospam" wrote in message ...

In article , Mongoose
wrote:


Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.


apple pays a ****load of taxes.


But not their fair share.


wrong. they pay every penny they're required to pay.


At the expense of US taxpayers.

google, microsoft, facebook, intel and many others use the same tax
code in the same way, but as is typical with haters, they get a free
pass.


The only haters here are Appholes like you. No one really cares about
google, microsoft, facebook, intel. Only you Appholes make it your
lifes work to defend an uncaring corporate entity. Something must be
lacking in your life. Buy another Apple toy, it might assuage your
discontent.


Wow.

You don't even get what you just said, do you?

"No one really cares about google, microsoft, facebook, intel."

So why do you care so much about Apple?
  #35  
Old October 4th 16, 12:04 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Silver Slimer[_9_]
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

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On 2016-10-03 6:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
...

Fritz Wuehler

wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the
patent holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for
siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the
wrist for doing nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you
without vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want
and selling them at prices those people are willing to
pay?

Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at
exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people
out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are
people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right
from the moment they take the system out of the box and so
forth. And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said,
there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for
that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled
tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that
takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough
money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big
deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.

It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and
they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime.
They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim
Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in
the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to
look it up.

As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be
doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more
taxes than legally required.

The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try
to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code
to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word
LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She
wrote off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info
from Hannity off of his radio network.


Probably because the local landfill refused to take it.


I hear that her underwear is awesome at removing rust from metal though.


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  #36  
Old October 4th 16, 12:06 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
Alan Baker
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 2016-10-03 2:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article nospam wrote:

now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to
apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely
legal.

also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax
code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do
the same thing.

after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu.

in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's questionable
whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN
1180WR


The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries Ireland
tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless
nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was
paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due
to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed companies
to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the
economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be bailed
out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits.


"Centuries"?

What harm does it do Ireland to accept businesses that would not
otherwise have a presence there, and get taxes from them?


When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that farce,
time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be mutual.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html


  #37  
Old October 4th 16, 12:17 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Jim Polaski
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Posts: 3
Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal)loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 6:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
...

Fritz Wuehler

wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the
patent holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for
siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the
wrist for doing nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you
without vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want
and selling them at prices those people are willing to
pay?

Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at
exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people
out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are
people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right
from the moment they take the system out of the box and so
forth. And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said,
there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for
that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled
tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that
takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough
money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big
deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.

It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and
they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime.
They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim
Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in
the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to
look it up.

As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be
doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more
taxes than legally required.

The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try
to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code
to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word
LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She
wrote off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info
from Hannity off of his radio network.


Probably because the local landfill refused to take it.


I hear that her underwear is awesome at removing rust from metal though.


LMAO!!

  #38  
Old October 4th 16, 12:43 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system
Jeanne[_3_]
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
Alan Baker wrote:

On 2016-10-03 2:30 PM, Anonymous wrote:
In article nospam wrote:

now look up that it's not a sweetheart deal nor is it specific to
apple, but rather it's part of the tax code itself and completely
legal.

also look up that apple isn't the only company to legally use the tax
code in that manner. google, microsoft, facebook, intel and others do
the same thing.

after that, look up that ireland is siding with apple, *not* the eu.

in other words, ireland doesn't want apple to pay and it's questionable
whether the eu has any say in the matter in the first place.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...reland-idUSKCN
1180WR


The bad guys are sitting in the Irish parliament. For centuries Ireland
tried to convert from an agricultural country to a worthless
nonproductive banking nation at the EU's expense. And that plan was
paid by the EU twice, by direct funding and by a big loss of taxes due
to Ireland's irresponsibe tax dumping strategy, which allowed companies
to avoid payments on a large scale. On top of that, when in 2008 the
economic bubble burst, they once again held out their hands to be bailed
out by the EU and the IMF with additional multi-billion Euro benefits.

When will EU representatives recognize that it's time to end that farce,
time to make the spalpeens understand that solidarity has to be mutual.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/30/how-a...e-in-2014.html


Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else does:
i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws?


  #39  
Old October 4th 16, 12:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.test, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system
Nomen Nescio
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
nospam wrote:

In article , Alan Baker
wrote:


Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else does:
i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws?


they're doing the same thing plenty of other companies do, who all get
a free pass.

http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archiv...tax_avoidance_
from.php
You may have heard about Google Inc.¹s restructuring last year, which
resulted in the technology company becoming a wholly owned subsidiary
of a new Delaware corporation called Alphabet Inc. What you may not
know is how this restructuring can help the company potentially avoid
millions in state taxes.
...
As of the end of 2015, Google had $58.3 billion in offshore
³permanently reinvested² profits on which it pays no U.S. taxes, up
from $47.4 billion in 2014.


  #40  
Old October 4th 16, 01:07 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system, alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Anonymous
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
GreyCloud wrote:

On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
...

Fritz Wuehler
wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent
holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding
with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing
nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without
vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want and
selling them at prices those people are willing to pay?

Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant
prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to
buy it as a fashion statement.


I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people
who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment
they take the system out of the box and so forth.
And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that.
That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or
software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all
controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes
in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in
profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.

It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've
been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court
over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank
why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your
fanboyism for a day to look it up.


As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their
shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally
required.

The same goes for Trump BTW.
What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using
every line in the tax code to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year.
Key word LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She wrote
off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info from Hannity
off of his radio network.


  #41  
Old October 4th 16, 01:09 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system, alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Nathan Hale
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Posts: 164
Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
"Mongoose" wrote:



"nospam" wrote in message ...

In article , Mongoose
wrote:


Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.


apple pays a ****load of taxes.


But not their fair share.


wrong. they pay every penny they're required to pay.


At the expense of US taxpayers.

google, microsoft, facebook, intel and many others use the same tax
code in the same way, but as is typical with haters, they get a free
pass.


The only haters here are Appholes like you. No one really cares about
google, microsoft, facebook, intel. Only you Appholes make it your lifes
work to defend an uncaring corporate entity. Something must be lacking in
your life. Buy another Apple toy, it might assuage your discontent.


  #42  
Old October 4th 16, 01:51 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system, alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Cornelis Tromp
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Posts: 119
Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article
Jim Polaski wrote:

On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 6:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
...

Fritz Wuehler

wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the
patent holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for
siding with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the
wrist for doing nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you
without vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want
and selling them at prices those people are willing to
pay?

Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at
exorbitant prices knowing that there are enough dumb people
out there willing to buy it as a fashion statement.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are
people who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right
from the moment they take the system out of the box and so
forth. And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that. That being said,
there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or software for
that matter with one exception and that is it is all controlled
tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that
takes in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough
money in profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big
deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.

It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and
they've been avoiding giving the United States even a dime.
They went to court over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim
Cook was asked point-blank why Apple avoids paying taxes in
the United States. Try to pause your fanboyism for a day to
look it up.

As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be
doing their shareholders a disservice if they were paying more
taxes than legally required.

The same goes for Trump BTW. What kind of an idiot doesn't try
to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using every line in the tax code
to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year. Key word
LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She
wrote off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info
from Hannity off of his radio network.

Probably because the local landfill refused to take it.


I hear that her underwear is awesome at removing rust from metal though.


LMAO!!


  #43  
Old October 4th 16, 02:30 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) losespatent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

On 10/03/2016 04:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, GreyCloud wrote:
On 10/03/2016 02:54 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
On 2016-10-03, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2016-10-03 1:26 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
On 2016-10-03 9:26 AM, Mongoose wrote:


"Jolly Roger" wrote in message
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Fritz Wuehler
wrote:
Apple has been ordered to pay $302.4 million to the patent
holding and security software company VirnetX

Oh no, the sky is falling! : D Corrupt court known for siding
with patent trolls gives Apple a slap on the wrist for doing
nothing wrong.

You fangurls are really stupid. Apple screws you without
vaseline, and you bend over for more.

How do they do that: by making products that people want and
selling them at prices those people are willing to pay?

Except they don't do that. They make LIMITED hardware at exorbitant
prices knowing that there are enough dumb people out there willing to
buy it as a fashion statement.

I wouldn't go so far as to call them dumb people but they are people
who like the Apple culture, prefer the ease of use right from the moment
they take the system out of the box and so forth.
And Apple support is number one by far.

People are willing to pay extra for that.
That being said, there is nothing magical about Apple hardware or
software for that matter with one exception and that is it is all
controlled tightly (although that seems to be fading a bit with the last
updates) so it tends to work well together.


$300 million is a drop in the bucket for a company that takes
in over $18 billion a quarter. Apple makes enough money in
profit to pay this fine in a couple days. Big deal.

Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

Bull****.

It's accurate. Apple's taxes are mostly paid elsewhere and they've
been avoiding giving the United States even a dime. They went to court
over it near and after Jobs' death and Tim Cook was asked point-blank
why Apple avoids paying taxes in the United States. Try to pause your
fanboyism for a day to look it up.

As long as Apple isn't doing anything illegal, they would be doing their
shareholders a disservice if they were paying more taxes than legally
required.

The same goes for Trump BTW.
What kind of an idiot doesn't try to reduce his taxes LEGALLY by using
every line in the tax code to his advantage?

Every single one of us in USA does it every year.
Key word LEGALLY.


Hehehe... even Hillary uses the tax code to her advantage. She wrote
off 'Used old underwear' on her return. I got this info from Hannity
off of his radio network.


Probably because the local landfill refused to take it.


LOL!!! To close to the city too!
:-))

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Old October 4th 16, 03:51 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article , Wolf K
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Especially in the light of they don't pay any taxes.

apple pays a ****load of taxes.

But not their fair share.

wrong. they pay every penny they're required to pay. [...]


True, but that's not the issue.


yes it is the issue.

the claim is that apple has avoided or evaded paying taxes that they
owe. they have not avoided nor evaded anything. they paid what they
owe.

"Fair" and "legal" aren't the same
thing. "Acquitted" and "innocent" aren't the same thing. "Justice" and
"law" aren't the same thing.


irrelevant and you don't get to decide what's fair anyway.
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Old October 4th 16, 03:51 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system
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Default Apple (Who really never invented anything they could steal) loses patent retrial, owes $302.4 million to VirnetX.

In article , Wolf K
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Again: how is Apple doing anything different than what anyone else does:
i.e. organizing its affairs to take advantage of the tax laws?


Again: The Apple deal (and some others too) violated Ireland's own tax
laws. These deals were kept secret until some furshlugginer so'n'so went
whinging to the EU Commission about it. That's when the **** hit the
fan. The Irish Parliamentarians are covered in it.


apple didn't violate ireland's tax laws or any other laws.

it's also not an 'apple deal', it's the existing tax code that applies
to all companies.

google and other companies do the same thing.

http://www.taxjusticeblog.org/archiv...tax_avoidance_
from.php
...As of the end of 2015, Google had $58.3 billion in offshore
³permanently reinvested² profits on which it pays no U.S. taxes, up
from $47.4 billion in 2014.
 




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