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NTFS (was: Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops)
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:26:32 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 19:49:15 +0100, "NY" wrote: "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... Why would a 1TB drive need more than a single drive letter? I think you missed that I was talking about FAT32 *and* that I would like to know whats available, other than (the proprietary) NTFS. You said "a single Terrabyte drive would easily exhaust all available drive letters", so I'm asking why that would be the case. Just format it with a single partition and give that partition a letter, right? The format command will not _offer_ you FAT32 even as an _option_ if the partition is over a certain size. (Try it.) Windows/Microsoft artificially limit the permissible size even more, but the utility Paul has mentioned circumvents that limit - but there is still a maximum size for FAT32 that is significantly lower than the limit for NTFS. It is the Windows limit of 32 GB per FAT32 partition which would mean that you would need a lot of partitions and therefore a lot of drive letters to access all the disc (1000/32 is 32 which is greater than the number of drive letters in the alphabet). Right. That's almost certainly what Rudy was referring to, although I seriously doubt that anyone interested in FAT32 within the past 15-20 years is trying to do the formatting with the native Windows format command. Rudy, if that's what you were referring to, my apologies for not picking up on it sooner. There's still a question about why you'd suggest doing it that way, but I'll let it rest. You probably meant it as a joke. If you format a drive as FAT32 with a utility that doesn't have the 32 GB limit, can Windows still access the whole drive OK Yes, of course. The so-called 32GB limitation for FAT32 is entirely within Microsoft's format command. Every third party formatter that I've seen will happily format about 2TB. is it only the built-in FORMAT command (and the equivalent in Windows Explorer) that is crippled, as opposed to the underlying file- and folder-access mechanism? Exactly right. Once formatted with any formatter other than the native Windows command, Windows will be happy with the results. On similar lines I upgraded the HD in my Apple Wallstreet G3 laptop from 2GB to 40GB. When I installed OSX 10.2.8 the installer insisted it had to be on a partition less than 8GB but the Wallstreet will run OSX on the full 40GB partition. It's only a limitation of the installer. |
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NTFS (was: Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops)
In article , Lucifer
wrote: On similar lines I upgraded the HD in my Apple Wallstreet G3 laptop from 2GB to 40GB. When I installed OSX 10.2.8 the installer insisted it had to be on a partition less than 8GB but the Wallstreet will run OSX on the full 40GB partition. It's only a limitation of the installer. actually it's a limitation of old world rom macs, which wallstreet was the last. new world rom macs did not have that limitation. |
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Lucifer wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:04:56 -0400, Paul wrote: Well, you don't have to worry about the Wikipedia claim that FAT32 supports ~250 million files. I started testing that on Windows 10. It got to around 3 million files and the machine crashed. Sweet. My video recorder allows me to plug a USB drive into it to copy files from the internal hard drive but it must be formatted FAT32. That limits file size to 4GB when 1 hour of HD video could be 6GB. If I try to copy a file 4GB to a FAT32 drive with Windows it say insufficient space even when the drive has plenty of space. Plenty of things use segmented recording. If you're in Windows and want to put a 20GB file onto a FAT32 stick, use 7ZIP or WinZIP and set the archive file size. 7ZIP can be run in "Store" mode, where no compression is done, and basically your 20GB file is chopped up into five pieces so it fits on the FAT32 volume. And it would be copied at pretty high speed (limited by storage devices). blah.vhd 20GB becomes blah.zip.1 ~4GB and no compression used blah.zip.2 ~4GB and no compression used blah.zip.3 ~4GB and no compression used blah.zip.4 ~4GB and no compression used blah.zip.5 ~4GB and no compression used This adds steps to your whole "SneakerNet" experience, so this idea is only suited for bar bets. Paul |
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Paul,
By any chance would you have both a DUN (dialup networking) as well as regular Ethernet ? Nope. Although I've not yet thrown the modem away, I've put it into a closet. I do not even have a phonenumber to connect it to anymore. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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Frank,
The fact that you selected 3.1 implies that you have a Windows 7 system. Is that correct? (You didn't respond to my earlier "I don't remember which Windows version you have." comment.) My apologies for not responding. I've got an XPsp3 system, and did chose 3.1for no other reason than that all other numbers where higher. The next choice, v4.0 , mentioned something about XP, but it was unclear to me what it actually ment. Did you try to download all the (relevant) Windows PE versions at install time, like I suggested? If not, why not. Ehrmmm ... Isn't that what that downloader is supposed to do ? And to the "why not", some time ago I've searched my ass of for links to such PE software, and came up zilch. If you have some links to those versions ... I would only use (the latest version of) v7. v6 and v5 are no longer updated and you might run into a problem which is fixed in v7. Currently I'm runing into a problem that, so to speak, crept into V7 and has as of last week not been fixed. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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Paul,
Perhaps you could prepare that "kit" on a more capable OS, then bring it back to the WinXP Sp3 FAT32 setup :-) I don't think I'm going to try to jump thru those hoops. That plus not being sure that I can ever repeat it if I want to recreate the Macrium backup program again gives me an unpleasant feeling. So, thank you for your help (much obliged), but I think I'm dropping the idea of using Macrium. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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R.Wieser wrote:
Frank, The fact that you selected 3.1 implies that you have a Windows 7 system. Is that correct? (You didn't respond to my earlier "I don't remember which Windows version you have." comment.) My apologies for not responding. I've got an XPsp3 system, and did chose 3.1for no other reason than that all other numbers where higher. The next choice, v4.0 , mentioned something about XP, but it was unclear to me what it actually ment. Windows PE 4.0 "Supports UEFI / secure boot, USB 3.0 and HyperV Generation 2 virtual machines". Unless you have a rather new computer with Windows XP, it's unlikely you'll need this. Did you try to download all the (relevant) Windows PE versions at install time, like I suggested? If not, why not. Ehrmmm ... Isn't that what that downloader is supposed to do ? You can download the Windows PE when you *install* Macrium Reflect or *later* when you select 'Create Rescue Media' from *within* Macrium Reflect, i.e. after installation. Because you apparently have some weird network problems when downloading the Windows PE from the 'Create Rescue Media' function, I advised to do the download during the installation of Macrium Reflect. And to the "why not", some time ago I've searched my ass of for links to such PE software, and came up zilch. If you have some links to those versions ... I meant the Windows PE software which Macrium Reflect can download, either during installation or during the 'Create Rescue Media' function. I.e. I did not mean any other non Macrium-related Windows PE software. I would only use (the latest version of) v7. v6 and v5 are no longer updated and you might run into a problem which is fixed in v7. Currently I'm runing into a problem that, so to speak, crept into V7 and has as of last week not been fixed. In my Macrium Reflect 7.1, I just did a 'Create Rescue Media' and selected Windows PE 3.1. Macrium downloaded the Windows PE 3.1 software (142.2MB I believe), built the Rescue 'image' and happily progressed till the last 'Burn Rescue Media' phase, where you can burn the Rescue Media to a CD/DVD or write it to a USB device/stick. So I don't have any problem downloading the Windows PE 3.1 software, which AFAIR is your main problem. However this is not a purely apples to apples comparison, because my system is Windows 8.1, while your is XP, and my system is 64-bit, and your system is most likely 32-bit. (I think 32-bit versus 64-bit is selected during installation time and probably can not be changed later.) So for some reason you have a (Windows PE 3.1 software) download problem which we don't have. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 R.Wieser wrote:
Paul, By any chance would you have both a DUN (dialup networking) as well as regular Ethernet ? Nope. Although I've not yet thrown the modem away, I've put it into a closet. I do not even have a phonenumber to connect it to anymore. Do you even have a copper wire landline? -- Quote of the Week: "I grew up in airports and on air bases. I know what flying and airports can be. And most airports make me feel like we're about three per cent better than ants. Especially U.S. airports. They're zoos. All civility is gone." --Douglas Coupland Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / http://antfarm.ma.cx / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- | |o o| | ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / ( ) |
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Frank,
You can download the Windows PE when you *install* Macrium Reflect I did. Otherwise I could not have chosen to "create rescue media", now could I ? By the way, I did not get an(y kind of) error there. when you select 'Create Rescue Media' from *within* Macrium Reflect, i.e. after installation. .... Which is probably what it tried to do. Because you apparently have some weird network problems No, *I* don't. They are not "weird" either. Why do you keep referring to it as a "network problem" when its not ? :-( I advised to do the download during the installation of Macrium Reflect. I did not get such an option presented, nor did it tell me what it actually wanted to download. In other words, even if I wanted to I would not be able, as I have no clue to what it, than or at a later moment, needs. However this is not a purely apples to apples comparison, because my system is Windows 8.1, while your is XP, and As mentioned, I got to the conclusion that its an SSL encryption (as in: not having a shared one) problem. But its all moot now, as I've decided to drop Macrium from consideration. It has proven to be just to frickle, if only by its dependance of external, on-the-fly downloaded, resources. Thanks for your help. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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Ant,
Do you even have a copper wire landline? Yep. And connected to it is the *only* (working) telephone in my house. :-) Although I did have internet over it (ADSL) until a couple of years ago, currently its over the television sets coax. Regards, Rudy Wieser |
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R.Wieser wrote:
Frank, You can download the Windows PE when you *install* Macrium Reflect I did. Otherwise I could not have chosen to "create rescue media", now could I ? By the way, I did not get an(y kind of) error there. when you select 'Create Rescue Media' from *within* Macrium Reflect, i.e. after installation. ... Which is probably what it tried to do. Because you apparently have some weird network problems No, *I* don't. They are not "weird" either. Why do you keep referring to it as a "network problem" when its not ? :-( Then what *is* your problem!? This thread is nearly 200 posts, so it's very hard to keep track of what is and what isn't your problem, especially because you give conflicting information (see below), unintentially I'm sure, but still. I advised to do the download during the installation of Macrium Reflect. I did not get such an option presented, nor did it tell me what it actually wanted to download. In other words, even if I wanted to I would not be able, as I have no clue to what it, than or at a later moment, needs. This is direct conflict with your first comment: You can download the Windows PE when you *install* Macrium Reflect I did. Otherwise I could not have chosen to "create rescue media", now could I ? So did you download the Windows PE *during* the *installation* (i.e. in the *first* phase) of MR or during the *use* of MR? And, given the confusion, was the download of Windows PE *successful* or not? However this is not a purely apples to apples comparison, because my system is Windows 8.1, while your is XP, and As mentioned, I got to the conclusion that its an SSL encryption (as in: not having a shared one) problem. But its all moot now, as I've decided to drop Macrium from consideration. It has proven to be just to frickle, if only by its dependance of external, on-the-fly downloaded, resources. As I mentioned before, MR is *not* dependant on "external, on-the-fly downloaded, resources", because you can download *each and every* Windows PE version which you might ever need, *during* *installation* of MR, i.e. *before* you made any real use of MR, i.e. *before* you make Rescue Media or/and *before* you make any image of any partition. AFAICT, any 'frickleness' is not MR's fault. Thanks for your help. You're welcome. Better luck next time. Perhaps you should try Acronis? |
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NTFS (was: Quick assessment of 3 Windows tools to read/write Linux filesystems on dual-boot desktops)
Char Jackson
Thu, 27 Sep 2018 22:42:43 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote: If you can boot an XP install CD, you can presumably boot another CD before that, containing utilities to manage your drive and its partitions. That's what I remember doing back in the day. Same. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit he https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php ================================================== = A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer. |
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