New computer but win 7 or 8

....winston :
I've rarely used the Start Menu. Once the ability to pin to the
Taskbar, Jump Lists, and/or add the Quick Launch bar and in conjunction
with the simple method of searching (another Taskbar shortcut that open
'Search without the need to first open Explorer) the need to use the
Start Menu for routine tasks became unnecessary. Lol...and no my
desktop is not full of shortcuts (it has 5 total icons - iTunes,
Internet Explorer, SeaMonkey, my WordPress blog, and Computer)

That's five more than my desktop. :-)

--
Mike Barnes

Ken Blake :
On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:35:51 -0400, "...winston"
wrote:
"Mike Barnes" wrote in message news:XPOmyrGk2HaRFwcs@g52lk5g23lkgk3l
k345g.invalid...

That's all very encouraging (especially the bit about your desktop
not having my picture on it). I appreciate it, thanks.

Since this group is carried on publicly accessible servers....if
desired, anyone on the planet could now have that same skier on
their desktop. g

Anyone is welcome to do so. No charge.

*With* the open window and his message on it (unless he cropped it ).
g

No, that's an untouched screen grab. And if anyone's interested, that
skier is me.

--
Mike Barnes

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 22:04:39 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

...winston :
I've rarely used the Start Menu. Once the ability to pin to the
Taskbar, Jump Lists, and/or add the Quick Launch bar and in conjunction
with the simple method of searching (another Taskbar shortcut that open
'Search without the need to first open Explorer) the need to use the
Start Menu for routine tasks became unnecessary. Lol...and no my
desktop is not full of shortcuts (it has 5 total icons - iTunes,
Internet Explorer, SeaMonkey, my WordPress blog, and Computer)

That's five more than. :-)

You'd love my desktop. With the help of Fences I had nearly 150 icons
present on my desktop.

A couple of weeks ago, I decided that might possibly be overkill[1], so
I converted all 14 of the fences into folders.

My boot time is now only two or two and a half minutes instead of twice
that.

[1] Sponsored by the Department of Understatement Department.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 22:05:37 +0100, Mike Barnes
wrote:

Ken Blake :

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:35:51 -0400, "...winston"

Since this group is carried on publicly accessible servers....if
desired, anyone on the planet could now have that same skier on
their desktop. g

Anyone is welcome to do so. No charge.

*With* the open window and his message on it (unless he cropped it ).
g

No, that's an untouched screen grab.


Yes, I didn't think otherwise. Sorry, I wasn't clear enough in what I
wrote. By "he" I meant Winston's "anyone on the planet."


And if anyone's interested, that skier is me.


You look like you're great at it! I can't ski at all.

Gene E. Bloch :
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 22:04:39 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

...winston :
I've rarely used the Start Menu. Once the ability to pin to the
Taskbar, Jump Lists, and/or add the Quick Launch bar and in conjunction
with the simple method of searching (another Taskbar shortcut that open
'Search without the need to first open Explorer) the need to use the
Start Menu for routine tasks became unnecessary. Lol...and no my
desktop is not full of shortcuts (it has 5 total icons - iTunes,
Internet Explorer, SeaMonkey, my WordPress blog, and Computer)

That's five more than. :-)

You'd love my desktop. With the help of Fences I had nearly 150 icons
present on my desktop.

A couple of weeks ago, I decided that might possibly be overkill[1], so
I converted all 14 of the fences into folders.

My boot time is now only two or two and a half minutes instead of twice
that.

[1] Sponsored by the Department of Understatement Department.

You'd love my boot time. 18 seconds.

AAMOI how did the words "my desktop" get snipped from "That's five more
than my desktop"?

--
Mike Barnes

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:53:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:38:04 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

Your a bda byo!

Four words, and only one of them ("a") is spelled right. Excellent!
g

Now you've made me feel bad. Why, oh why, didn't I figure out a way to
spell "a" wrong????


LOL! The real point of my message was recognizing that "your" was
wrong (and I was sure you spelled it wrong on purpose).

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:19:28 -0600, gufus
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:24:22 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

*Will* run under Windows 7? Yes, but there are some incompatibilities,
and should probably be avoided.

Ah..

THX


You're welcome. But for what they are, see Winston's reply and perhaps
also do the search I suggested.

On 4/13/2013 11:47 AM, ...winston wrote:
The major incompatibility iirc is Outlook related
e.g. OL doesn't remember passwords and corruption can occur in the pst
file. The latter is contact list related.

There are also a few symptoms (cause/effect) that do not impact everyone.
- the presence of Office 2000 may cause some corruption in the Windows
user profile.
- installation of Service Packs could cause some performance and crashes.

For the most part, Office 2000 programs run fine on Win7. The long
standing recommendation for those that do wish to use it on Win7 -
install using 'Custom' mode and deselect Outlook and if installing
Service Packs ensure in advance (if still using OL that you routinely
backup of your pst file to external media).

Related. Office 2000 product lifecycle for support ended quite some time
ago... thus no updates or patches after that date are available.

Thanks for the info Winston. I haven't used Outlook for many years.
Instead went with Thunderbird and Lightning for all of the needs
provided by Outlook. As far as life support for Office 2000, that is
not an issue for me. So I remain contented.

On 4/13/2013 12:45 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 09:26:18 -0700, Mellowed wrote:


I haven't noted any incompatibilities in my usage and the later Office
software is difficult for me (read the 'ribbon').


I wasn't crazy about the ribbon either, but on the other hand, it
didn't take very long for me to get accustomed to it.

I run Microsoft Office 2013 these days (mostly just Outlook and Excel;
I prefer and use WordPerfect X6 for my word processor), and by now, I
don't have any real problems with the ribbon.

I'm to old to learn unnecessary new tricks. If I needed the new things
in the work place I would have to adapt. Right now I only use Word and
Excel. Haven't used Power Point since I retired 13 years ago. Quit
using Outlook when some compatibility issues started with some MS
updates. Went to Thunderbird and have been happy ever since. So it is
all non issues for me. If the world turns into a Pumpkin, I'll go with
Libre Office as it also works just fine. (I used Libre Office (free)
when I had Win8 as Office 2000 will not run in Win8.

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:58:00 -0300, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:30:38 -0600, gufus
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:15:25 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

But that's not what I meant. I meant that the end of Windows 8 support
will be later than the end of Windows 7 support (April 2014). There's
no maybe about that.

Again.

Maybe, M$ might extend support for W7. (they did with XP.. right?)

EOS for Win7 SP1 is 2020. Which will be extended if there is
an SP2.

Welcome to Redmond, where up is down, black is white, and "EOS" is a
sunset, not a dawn.

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:30:00 +0100, mick wrote:

Having listened to all the advice so far, the choice (for me) remains
between win 7 and win 8. Win 8 with the add ons as you mention seems to
be the best of both worlds.

Perhaps. If you don't mind Microsoft having veto power over you
installing applications they disapprove of, including some types of
virtual-PC software.

Any self-respecting gun-toting land-owning American should stick with
Windows 7, or use Linux, and tell Microsoft "hands off my property!"

(What, I forgot to mention MacOS/iOS? You're kidding, right? Apple's been
dictating what third party tools people can and cannot install on their
phones and tablets, and what technically-compatible hardware people can
and cannot run MacOS itself on, for years. They're old hands at what
Microsoft is just starting to dabble in with Win8, and every OS they've
ever released is affected.)

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:54:51 -0700, Mellowed wrote:

On 4/13/2013 12:45 PM, Ken Blake wrote:


I wasn't crazy about the ribbon either, but on the other hand, it
didn't take very long for me to get accustomed to it.

I run Microsoft Office 2013 these days (mostly just Outlook and Excel;
I prefer and use WordPerfect X6 for my word processor), and by now, I
don't have any real problems with the ribbon.

I'm to old to learn unnecessary new tricks. If I needed the new things
in the work place I would have to adapt. Right now I only use Word and
Excel. Haven't used Power Point since I retired 13 years ago.


I was about to say I was probably older than you (I'm 75). Then I saw
that you retired 13 years ago, so I'm perhaps wrong.

But I retired 20 years ago.

On 4/13/2013 3:31 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:54:51 -0700, Mellowed wrote:

On 4/13/2013 12:45 PM, Ken Blake wrote:


I wasn't crazy about the ribbon either, but on the other hand, it
didn't take very long for me to get accustomed to it.

I run Microsoft Office 2013 these days (mostly just Outlook and Excel;
I prefer and use WordPerfect X6 for my word processor), and by now, I
don't have any real problems with the ribbon.

I'm to old to learn unnecessary new tricks. If I needed the new things
in the work place I would have to adapt. Right now I only use Word and
Excel. Haven't used Power Point since I retired 13 years ago.


I was about to say I was probably older than you (I'm 75). Then I saw
that you retired 13 years ago, so I'm perhaps wrong.

But I retired 20 years ago.
Well you do have an edge on me. I'm 72. Hence my tag of 'Mellowed'.
Everything is relative. I had about 40 hectic years while working and
now nothing bothers me. I'm really enjoying retirement!

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:30:05 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:53:45 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:38:04 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

Your a bda byo!

Four words, and only one of them ("a") is spelled right. Excellent!
g

Now you've made me feel bad. Why, oh why, didn't I figure out a way to
spell "a" wrong????

LOL! The real point of my message was recognizing that "your" was
wrong (and I was sure you spelled it wrong on purpose).

Yep. I was just went on with the 'a' thing 'cause you were pulling my
chain. Extending the fun a little bit...

And I'm not doing anything actually useful at the moment.

Well, in fact, I just did. I found a nice Android app to measure & log
sound levels so I could compare a couple of cars in an objective
fashion.

Amazing what's out there...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On 4/13/2013 7:03 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
I could compare a couple of cars in an objective
fashion.

I tried this some time ago with a "real" sound level meter.
It turned out that there was quite a bit of variation between cars of
the same make and model.