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Old September 14th 18, 12:46 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/


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Old September 14th 18, 03:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
mathedman
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On 9/13/2018 6:46 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/


I'm still a 7-user. curious, I downloaded Chrome ---big mistake ---
a lot of other stuff (I know not what) came with it. And now
much of we used to call "freeware" or "share ware" comes
with Crome included!
Like wise, a Firefox download messes with other stuff ---including
replacing all the desktop icons with a Firefox logo.
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Old September 14th 18, 03:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Mathedman wrote:
On 9/13/2018 6:46 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/


I'm still a 7-user. curious, I downloaded Chrome ---big mistake ---
a lot of other stuff (I know not what) came with it. And now
much of we used to call "freeware" or "share ware" comes
with Crome included!
Like wise, a Firefox download messes with other stuff ---including
replacing all the desktop icons with a Firefox logo.


Presumably you downloaded Chrome from a Google site.
And your Chrome wasn't a drive-by install which included
other PUPs as part of the payload.

Chrome has a couple Google Updater services. The Updater
services stay on the computer, and update any of a number
of Google programs. And even if you removed all Google
stuff, you might have to remove the Updater materials
manually.

What was funny about the drive-by install thing, was that
a couple people got Chromium on the machine. Chromium is
the open source fork of Chrome. And the web site where
Chromium is located, even makes it hard to get a copy
of Chromium if you wanted to test it. I don't think
anyone is paying to promote that, and yet... machines
with Chromium, where the user swears they didn't download it.

*******

Of course it's possible for icons to be screwed up.

And you have to think through the whole "binding" process
for file extensions, to figure out what happened. I bet
the files on your desktop had a particular file extension,
and you're doing something that we're not doing.

Paul
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Old September 14th 18, 06:28 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Mathedman
writes:
On 9/13/2018 6:46 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.
https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/

I'm still a 7-user. curious, I downloaded Chrome ---big mistake ---
a lot of other stuff (I know not what) came with it. And now


Where did you download it from?

much of we used to call "freeware" or "share ware" comes
with Crome included!


That is true.

Like wise, a Firefox download messes with other stuff ---including


A Firefox _download_ shouldn't change anything. A Firefox _install_
isn't _usually_ grasping: OK, it makes itself the default browser, but
even there, it does ask during the install, though defaults to yes.

replacing all the desktop icons with a Firefox logo.


Only the ones that were internet shortcuts - which, presumably, had the
logo from whichever browser you had before. It doesn't change, e. g.,
icons for Word, Excel, IrfanView ...
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Old September 14th 18, 04:10 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Stan Brown wrote:

Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/


I'm not clinging to Windows 7, because I've never had it [1], but I
*am* clinging to Windows 8.1, even while Windows 10 was *supposed* to be
better than 8.1 (Yeah, RIGHT! :-().

[1] Went from (XP to) Vista to 8.1, just before 10 broke out.
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Old September 14th 18, 06:24 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Frank Slootweg
writes:
Stan Brown wrote:

Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/


I'm not clinging to Windows 7, because I've never had it [1], but I
*am* clinging to Windows 8.1, even while Windows 10 was *supposed* to be
better than 8.1 (Yeah, RIGHT! :-().

[1] Went from (XP to) Vista to 8.1, just before 10 broke out.


I like "broke out". Makes it sound like an epidemic (which is probably
what you intended, and arguably it is one).
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Old September 15th 18, 08:39 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:24:43 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Frank Slootweg
writes:
[quoted text muted]
*am* clinging to Windows 8.1, even while Windows 10 was *supposed* to be
better than 8.1 (Yeah, RIGHT! :-().

[1] Went from (XP to) Vista to 8.1, just before 10 broke out.


I like "broke out". Makes it sound like an epidemic (which is probably
what you intended, and arguably it is one).


+1

For the first year, roughly, it was spread like malware (or a PUP, if
you want to be mealymouthed).

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Old September 14th 18, 06:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 09/14/2018 11:10 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Stan Brown wrote:

Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/


I'm not clinging to Windows 7, because I've never had it [1], but I
*am* clinging to Windows 8.1, even while Windows 10 was *supposed* to be
better than 8.1 (Yeah, RIGHT! :-().

[1] Went from (XP to) Vista to 8.1, just before 10 broke out.

I really liked Windows 8.1 (not 8.0 of course, no one did). And with a
3rd party menu it was great. I bought one of the $39.99 copies so I
can put it back but I don't mind Win 10 now. I run Linux 98% of the
time but 10 serves me well.


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Old September 14th 18, 07:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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On 09/14/2018 12:53 PM, Big Al wrote:

[snip]

I really liked Windows 8.1 (not 8.0 of course, no one did).


I tried the Win 8 preview. The first thing I thought when it installed
was how I really don't want an iPhone (since that's what it looked like,
not like Windows).

And with a
3rd party menu it was great.Â*Â* I bought one of the $39.99 copies so I
can put it back but I don't mind Win 10 now.Â*Â* I run Linux 98% of the
time but 10 serves me well.


I do too (run Linux). I do have a few programs that require Windows, and
I use 7 for them.

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Old September 15th 18, 10:09 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
T
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On 09/14/2018 11:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I do too (run Linux). I do have a few programs that require Windows, and
I use 7 for them.


I put my Windows in a virtual machines. W7 runs okay; W-Nein (w10)
os a dog.


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Old September 15th 18, 06:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mark Lloyd[_2_]
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On 09/15/2018 04:09 AM, T wrote:
On 09/14/2018 11:53 AM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I do too (run Linux). I do have a few programs that require Windows,
and I use 7 for them.


I put my Windows in a virtual machines.Â* W7 runs okay; W-Nein (w10)
os a dog.


Same here.

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1 day).

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time -nor ever will." [Madelyn O'Hair, "An Atheist Epic"]
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Old September 15th 18, 08:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:53:59 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
I tried the Win 8 preview. The first thing I thought when it installed
was how I really don't want an iPhone (since that's what it looked like,
not like Windows).


Too late now, I guess, but Windows key + D gets you back to the
normal desktop, and there's a setting to boot into the desktop at
login, instead of the default Fisher-Price interface.

But I couldn't get around the missing Start Menu. I tried for over a
year on my Win 8 laptop, and finally, with a sigh of relief,
installed Classic Shell.

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Old September 14th 18, 07:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Sam E[_2_]
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On 09/14/2018 10:10 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

[snip]

I'm not clinging to Windows 7, because I've never had it [1], but I
*am* clinging to Windows 8.1, even while Windows 10 was *supposed* to be
better than 8.1 (Yeah, RIGHT! :-().


and doing a good job of demonstrating how "better" does NOT imply
"good". 7 appears to be the best version (although XP isn't that bad).

[snip]


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Old September 16th 18, 02:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
mathedman
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On 9/13/2018 6:46 PM, Stan Brown wrote:

Fun article from How-to Geek today, about Microsoft's latest Windows
10 updates, that now tell you Chrome and Frirefox are unsafe when you
try to download them.

https://www.howtogeek.com/365983/win...-push-firefox-
and-chrome-over-the-edge/



And maybe because nothing better has been demonstrated- We had win
8, which we changed with "Start 8" so it was like 7.
Then 8.1 (= 9) which was changed so it was like 7.
Now 10, which we change with Start 10 so it's like 7.
What is needed that 7 doesn't have?
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Old September 16th 18, 03:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mathedman" wrote

| What is needed that 7 doesn't have?

Are you kidding?! Try getting a Metro app on
Win7 to turn your computer into a flashlight.
No can do.


 




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