Gigabit Ethernet Card for Win10

Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

Thanks in advance.

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Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

Thanks in advance.

I would have thought using 1000 /100 /10 was hardware decided and the
driver would just use and perhaps downgrade what it finds card "linked"
at? So I assume so long as there's a driver it'd just work at 1000

Bennett Price wrote:

Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in;

Pretty well guaranteed to either have a microsoft supplied, or
manufacturer supplied driver, 1Gbe is nothing exotic these days. If you
were looking for 10Gbe I could understand that you might worry about
Win10 rather than Server2012 or Server2016 drivers.

I do generally like Startech products, and this one specifically
mentions Win10 (they also do a PCIe flavour).

https://www.startech.com/uk/Networking-IO/Adapter-Cards/10100-1000-Mbps-32-bit-PCI-Gigabit-Ethernet-Card~ST1000BT32

On 17/12/2017 10:46 AM, Bennett Price wrote:
Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

For best performance but a bit expensive, get one that uses Intel chips.

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"Bennett Price" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10, 1709.
When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see Win10
drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to purchase a
card that is known to work.

Thanks in advance.

I had two TP-LINK TG-3269 bridged in my old PC. They worked well with Win10
even though the box says "Windows 8 Compatible."

Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if your
connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?
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Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if your
connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?


It's an advantage if there are other (wired) PC's on your home network.
There may also be a latency consideration, even with an Internet
connection that's far slower than 1GB/s.

SC Tom wrote:
Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if
your connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?

Yes if you do anything intra-LAN.

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SC Tom wrote:


"Bennett Price" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

Thanks in advance.

I had two TP-LINK TG-3269 bridged in my old PC. They worked well with
Win10 even though the box says "Windows 8 Compatible."

Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if
your connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?

I moved 160GB of files yesterday, over my LAN, from
one computer to another. Why ? The computer in question,
the fastest interface on it, is the LAN.

No other connector on the back can match it.

Not even the hard drives go as fast as the LAN.

If I wanted to put other hardware in that box, drivers
would be an issue. Drivers were such an issue, I had to
pull a video card upgrade out of it, because of a lack
of drivers, and use the card elsewhere.

So the LAN is the life-line, in and out.

And I have four GbE LAN cards in the deepest corner of
my junk room. They use an excessive amount of CPU during
transfers. By extrapolation, you'd need a 4GHz processor
to drive the link at full rate. When the computer is
booted into Linux, it freezes with that card in place.

I have two brands of cards, one brand "promising" to have
a Marvel chip on it. Instead, the cards all have RealTek
PCI chips.

What eventually happens, is the worlds landfills will be
full to the brim with RealTek GbE cards. Sure they're cheap,
but they're not even as good as the RTL8139 (that would be
the 100BT chip that the computer store used to keep a
"barrel" of cards out on the show floor). I think my
Staples had such a barrel years ago. And I got a card.
It worked OK, but it doesn't fit into any plans today.
The 8139 doesn't use a ring buffer, and instead has
four packet-sized buffers internally. "Real" LAN chips
use DMA ring buffers, and can buffer a lot more packets.
Some have scatter/gather DMA.

*******

This has a listed power consumption of 5V @ 800mA,
which seems a bit on the high side (4W versus the
typical 1W for such chips). I'm sure it'll have some
sort of reduced power states... maybe.

The chip on this one is 82541PI. You can Google
that to check for trouble. It's generally preferred
to get one with a CD in the box, as the Intel site
is none to generous with help on these things. The
item listed here, is a box with no CD. Other slightly
more expensive boxed identical items are available
for a few bucks more.

https://www.intel.com/content/dam/do...-datasheet.pdf

Intel PWLA8391GT Desktop Adapter PRO/1000 GT 10/100/1000Mbps PCI 1 x RJ45 $27
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16833106121

From a Newegg reviewer:

"The latest version Intel exactly match drivers are
in the Intel v15.3 PRO driver pack on their support site.
The file is dated 2010.05.04. The HWID is
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_107C&SUBSYS_13768086
"

According to this, it was invented in the year 2004 or so.
It's a 130nm chip.

https://ark.intel.com/products/6301/...net-Controller

Launch Date Spring 2004
Expected Discontinuance 2/3/2015
Lithography 130 nm
TDP 1W --- so it's not four watts

The PCI bus on an older computer, can have a fair amount of
activity on it. You might never see the link maxed
even in simplex tests. It will not deliver full link
rates in both directions at the same time, due to the
PCI bus limit. But in the most important home scenarios,
will perform better than the RealTek ones I got, by at least
another 25% or so.

The very oldest computers, connect the Northbridge and Southbridge
together with the one and only PCI bus. In such computers, disk
I/O flows over the same bus as LAN traffic. If you have such
a computer, you'll be lucky to pump disk data at 50MB/sec over
your new GbE connection. Much more modern computers can do better
(the disks are not sharing that bus).

On my last P4 era machine, the LAN chip was connected to CSA bus,
a 266MB/sec bus, and you could do full duplex at link rate on that.
Not that I ever did of course. Regular PCI bus has burst transfers
at 100-110MB/sec, depending on the burst size setting, and
how much bandwidth competition there is on the bus. The higher
you set the bus occupancy for a PCI card, the closer you get
to the 133MB/sec theoretical max. Practical engineer yields
100-110MB/sec where everything in the computer "behaves itself"
and the PCI sound card doesn't get starved for samples.

*******

The LAN is the path of last resort, when the rest of
the hardware in a computer sucks :-)

Paul

"SC Tom" wrote in message news
Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if
your connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?
Yes
Especially if you execute programs that are not stored locally
Or if you share high speed devices on your network : cameras, TV cards, etc
If you make hard drive back up via the network.
Transfering data 10 times faster is precious with any battery powered
device.

On 12/17/2017 5:30 AM, SC Tom wrote:


"Bennett Price" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed.Â* Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

Thanks in advance.

I had two TP-LINK TG-3269 bridged in my old PC. They worked well with
Win10 even though the box says "Windows 8 Compatible."

Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if
your connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?

I'd like my PC to talk faster to my Ethernet connected NAS.

On 12/17/2017 1:33 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Bennett Price wrote:

Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709.Â* When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed.Â* Perhaps Win 10 has them built in;

Pretty well guaranteed to either have a microsoft supplied, or
manufacturer supplied driver, 1Gbe is nothing exotic these days. If you
were looking for 10Gbe I could understand that you might worry about
Win10 rather than Server2012 or Server2016 drivers.

I do generally like Startech products, and this one specifically
mentions Win10 (they also do a PCIe flavour).

https://www.startech.com/uk/Networking-IO/Adapter-Cards/10100-1000-Mbps-32-bit-PCI-Gigabit-Ethernet-Card~ST1000BT32

Thanks but when I look at the drivers they supply, Win10 isn't mentioned
https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/me...eries_Drivers/[Realtek]%20Windows%20Gigabit%20PCI%20Network%20Card.zip

Bennett Price wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

this one specifically mentions Win10

Thanks but when I look at the drivers they supply, Win10 isn't mentioned

So perhaps they exist within windows 10, because on the page I linked,
the spec. section says

"OS Compatibility
Windows® NT, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10
Windows Server® 2003, 2008 R2, 2012, 2012 R2, 2016
Netware Server 5.x, Netware ODI for DOS
Linux 2.6.x to 4.11.x, Unix
Mac OS X 10.4"

it would be suicide for any gigabit NIC manufacturer to not have current
Windows drivers ...

"Bennett Price" wrote in message
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On 12/17/2017 5:30 AM, SC Tom wrote:


"Bennett Price" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

Thanks in advance.

I had two TP-LINK TG-3269 bridged in my old PC. They worked well with
Win10 even though the box says "Windows 8 Compatible."

Side question- is there any advantage in having a Gb NIC and router if
your connection to the outside world is 30Mbps?

I'd like my PC to talk faster to my Ethernet connected NAS.

Thanks to all for the replies. All valid reasons :-) I don't do much in the
way of transfers between PCs (my backups are to external USB3 drives), but
for what little I do do, I have a nicely high transfer rate.
Thanks again for the clarifications, and sorry for semi-hijacking the
thread.
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SC Tom

Bennett Price schreef op 17-12-2017
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Can anyone recommend a PCI 10-100-1000 Ethernet card for Windows 10,
1709. When I look at the web sites of dlink, intel, etc I don't see
Win10 drivers listed. Perhaps Win 10 has them built in; I'd like to
purchase a card that is known to work.

ASUS XG-C100C

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