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I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to
be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? |
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On 26/01/2018 04:03, Jason wrote:
I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to Yes Linux users knew sometime ago that after Windows 10 there is no more Windows and people would have to start learning Linux. Have you started yet old man? You better do before you die. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/doomsday-clock-signalling-how-close-earth-is-to-apocalypse-ticks-closer-to-midnight-a3749931.html -- With over 600 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Jason wrote:
I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? This is what WORKGROUP sharing is for. I can still manage to coax some configs to work. I'm still able to talk to a WinXP machine (only possible via SMB1, not SMB2 or SMB3). If that were ever to fail, I have IIS FTP enabled on the Win10 machine, and I have done an 80GB transfer to it at full rate. Using a tick box, most of the time it stays turned off. But if I'm running my old Mac G4, that's how I can network to the rest of the room. Regular sharing doesn't work, because the code on the G4 is so old. The fastest I/O spigot on the old Mac, is the GbE NIC, which is why that's a preferred method. USB 1.1 just doesn't cut it. Paul |
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 04:56:34 +0000, Good Guy
wrote: On 26/01/2018 04:03, Jason wrote: I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to Yes Linux users knew sometime ago that after Windows 10 there is no more Windows and people would have to start learning Linux. Have you started yet old man? You better do before you die. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/doomsday-clock-signalling-how-close-earth-is-to-apocalypse-ticks-closer-to-midnight-a3749931.html "the prick" opens it's mouth again! |
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Jason wrote:
I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? The statement of ditching HomeGroup and all going to be OneDrive is not accurate. The deprecation of HomeGroup for networking is not related to OneDrive. - OneDrive is a cloud based storage app not a device networking feature The same method of device networking that is available now and also existed prior to HomeGroup's inclusion in Windows(Windows 7) will apply after HomeGroup functionality and support ends. HomeGroup will be removed in the next Windows feature update, Version 1803(aka Redstone 4), which will be released later this year(current est. March 2018). -- ...w msft mvp windows experience 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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In article , ...w
writes I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? The statement of ditching HomeGroup and all going to be OneDrive is not accurate. The deprecation of HomeGroup for networking is not related to OneDrive. - OneDrive is a cloud based storage app not a device networking feature I seem to have set up a network without HomeGroup, I haven't a clue how. Desktop upstairs connected to router via wifi, laptop down stairs similar, we can transfer files too and from both and the laptop can use the desktop connected printer, that's all we need. Mike -- Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners. Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians. Yorkshire Halvard Lange |
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On 1/26/2018 6:50 AM, Mike Swift wrote:
In article , ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ writes I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? The statement of ditching HomeGroup and all going to be OneDrive is not accurate. The deprecation of HomeGroup for networking is not related to OneDrive. - OneDrive is a cloud based storage app not a device networking feature I seem to have set up a network without HomeGroup, I haven't a clue how. Desktop upstairs connected to router via wifi, laptop down stairs similar, we can transfer files too and from both and the laptop can use the desktop connected printer, that's all we need. Mike I have never gotten the Homegroup to work. However all three of my computers are connected though a wireless/wired LAN. On each machine I shared all of the drives that I wanted to access through the LAN. and then map network drive on each computer to the drives on the other computers. I understand this task would expand with every computer you put into the system. -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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On 1/26/2018 5:05 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
Jason wrote: I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? The statement of ditching HomeGroup and all going to be OneDrive is not accurate. The deprecation of HomeGroup for networking is not related to OneDrive. - OneDrive is a cloud based storage app not a device networking feature The same method of device networking that is available now and also existed prior to HomeGroup's inclusion in Windows(Windows 7) will apply after HomeGroup functionality and support ends. HomeGroup will be removed in the next Windows feature update, Version 1803(aka Redstone 4), which will be released later this year(current est. March 2018). I really needed to know that 1803 will be release later this year. I started trying to install 1703 on my tablet when it came out while updating my other two computers. I just finally succeeded within the last week . If it goes as 1703, I should have it installed on all three computers in a year. -- 2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 1/26/2018 5:05 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: Jason wrote: I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? The statement of ditching HomeGroup and all going to be OneDrive is not accurate. The deprecation of HomeGroup for networking is not related to OneDrive. - OneDrive is a cloud based storage app not a device networking feature The same method of device networking that is available now and also existed prior to HomeGroup's inclusion in Windows(Windows 7) will apply after HomeGroup functionality and support ends. HomeGroup will be removed in the next Windows feature update, Version 1803(aka Redstone 4), which will be released later this year(current est. March 2018). I really needed to know that 1803 will be release later this year. I started trying to install 1703 on my tablet when it came out while updating my other two computers. I just finally succeeded within the last week . If it goes as 1703, I should have it installed on all three computers in a year. I jam these in with a downloaded DVD and it's "same day service". And you hear a "whoosh" as Window.old goes out the window, using cleanmgr.exe. If people will backup their systems first, you can use a hammer on this stuff. If it doesn't go well, restore from backup. There's no need to be "timid" and wait 3 months for Windows Update to deliver it. And my installs are still using a two year old video driver, as my video card is "out of support". Still works. One of these days, my luck will run out :-) You can't stop "progress". Paul |
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On 26/1/2018 12:03, Jason wrote:
I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? I always disable all HomeGroup services and use good old workgroup networking. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 21:59:46 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: On 26/1/2018 12:03, Jason wrote: I read that MS is going to ditch Homegroup networking so it's all going to be via OneDrive. For years, we've had several devices networked just fine with a Homegroup: PC's, TV's and other random experimets of mine. From what I've read about OD, it's not clear that I can achieve that simple sort of networking setup. I have zero interest in storing anything in the MS cloud. Homegroup networking wasn't without problems, but it was simple and adequate. Can OD be as simple? I always disable all HomeGroup services and use good old workgroup networking. I don't disable anything. I ignore both Homegroups and Workgroups, and simply use IP addresses. |
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On 26/1/2018 22:48, Char Jackson wrote:
I don't disable anything. I ignore both Homegroups and Workgroups, and simply use IP addresses. You really should disable unused services. Anyway.... -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:51:46 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: On 26/1/2018 22:48, Char Jackson wrote: I don't disable anything. I ignore both Homegroups and Workgroups, and simply use IP addresses. You really should disable unused services. Anyway.... I can't remember if you posted in that recent thread I created about Windows 10 networking being broken again? Zaghadka pointed out that every time Windows 10 upgrades itself it re-enables all those Homegroup services which often cause computers to disappear from the network even if you don't use homegroups. It's a pain in the ass. Char mentioned he doesn't care if he sees the computer names in network settings. |
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On 01/26/2018 08:48 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
[snip] I don't disable anything. I ignore both Homegroups and Workgroups, and simply use IP addresses. I never used Homegroup. I've been networking computers for years before there was such a thing and saw no need for the extra complexity. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "If God dropped acid, would he see people?" [Steven Wright] |
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On 26/1/2018 23:29, EGK wrote:
I can't remember if you posted in that recent thread I created about Windows 10 networking being broken again? Zaghadka pointed out that every time Windows 10 upgrades itself it re-enables all those Homegroup services which often cause computers to disappear from the network even if you don't use homegroups. It's a pain in the ass. I cannot confirm nor deny this behavior, BUT I don't remember seeing Homegroup being re-enabled after an upgrade or update. I usually disable all Homegroup-related services right after installation of Win 10 via USB, before applying cumulative upgrade. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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