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Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD ?
Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD to replace the HDD?
Will it fit ? Looking at Samsung 860 PRO 256GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76P256BW) . How do I open the T500 to do installation ? |
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Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD ?
FreeMantle wrote:
Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD to replace the HDD? Will it fit ? Looking at Samsung 860 PRO 256GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76P256BW) . How do I open the T500 to do installation ? Overview here. https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/pd001509 Seems to use a "storage converter". Good lord, what will they think of next. https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/migr-71259 ******* Normal laptops, there's a cover on the bottom of the laptop you remove, to access the drive bay. The drive bay may be 9.5mm deep. Or on an older machine, maybe 12.5mm or so. The list of actual drive heights for 2.5" drives is here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_form_factors 5mm SSD (they only need to be as thick as a PCB+chip) 7mm Drive bay on a thin machine, but also SSD height 9.5mm Drive bay 12.5mm Drive bay 15mm WDC Passport external (not inside laptop), around 5TB max capacity 19mm No idea SSD drives are 7mm. If there are 5mm ones, I don't own one yet. To keep an SSD secure in a regular drive bay, plastic (rectangular) spacer rings can be obtained, to take up the "slack space" and prevent the drive from rattling around and busting off the SATA connector. In your machine, it looks like there is an adapter of some sort, to fulfill the same function. Your machine appears to allow "sliding" insertion of a drive, with one screw for retention. You might have to go looking for an adapter, making sure the adapter is for a 7mm drive. Then verify the SSD is also 7mm. All of this care and attention is intended to allow the SATA connector to mate properly (one requirement), plus keep the drive secure when the bay is larger than the drive (the second requirement). Paul |
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Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD ?
Paul wrote:
FreeMantle wrote: Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD to replace the HDD? Will it fit ? Looking at Samsung 860 PRO 256GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76P256BW) . How do I open the T500 to do installation ? Overview here. https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/pd001509 Seems to use a "storage converter". Good lord, what will they think of next. https://support.lenovo.com/ca/en/solutions/migr-71259 ******* Normal laptops, there's a cover on the bottom of the laptop you remove, to access the drive bay. The drive bay may be 9.5mm deep. Or on an older machine, maybe 12.5mm or so. The list of actual drive heights for 2.5" drives is here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e_form_factors 5mm SSD (they only need to be as thick as a PCB+chip) 7mm Drive bay on a thin machine, but also SSD height 9.5mm Drive bay 12.5mm Drive bay 15mm WDC Passport external (not inside laptop), around 5TB max capacity 19mm No idea SSD drives are 7mm. If there are 5mm ones, I don't own one yet. To keep an SSD secure in a regular drive bay, plastic (rectangular) spacer rings can be obtained, to take up the "slack space" and prevent the drive from rattling around and busting off the SATA connector. In your machine, it looks like there is an adapter of some sort, to fulfill the same function. Your machine appears to allow "sliding" insertion of a drive, with one screw for retention. You might have to go looking for an adapter, making sure the adapter is for a 7mm drive. Then verify the SSD is also 7mm. All of this care and attention is intended to allow the SATA connector to mate properly (one requirement), plus keep the drive secure when the bay is larger than the drive (the second requirement). Paul IBM Lenovo T500 Hard Drive Replacement Installation ThinkPad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCN8jp78VMQ That shows replacing the HDD (with another). The drive fits into a caddy (because it slides into the case from the side) instead of just getting inserted into a recess to hold the drive (as with a backpanel plate to access a recess for the drive). No idea why the rubber rails are needed. Maybe they're vibration insulators. The ribbon is a grab handle to make easier the extraction of the drive+caddy. A recess accessed via a backplate just has the drive sit in the recess. No caddy required. For sliding in the drive, yeah, I can see they'd want to use a caddy to ensure proper alignment of the drive's and laptop's connectors. I suspect the cage keeps the drive aligned when sliding the cage into some rails inside the laptop; however, seems there would be some slop in alignment due to the rubber rails that slide over the cage. Since the dimensions for an SSD should be the same for an HDD (just be sure the SSD isn't any thicker than the HDD), I don't see why the SSD won't fit inside the caddy used for the HDD. The video never did show the connectors on the HDD to check if they were standard SATA connectors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-Pxx7tptoo That video shows replacing the HDD in the T500 with an SSD. The cage gets reused for the SSD, along with the rubber rails. That's what I would expect because the SSD cases are made to the same size as the HDD cases. Just watch for thickness of the HDD and the SSD to match. |
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Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD ?
VanguardLH wrote:
Since the dimensions for an SSD should be the same for an HDD (just be sure the SSD isn't any thicker than the HDD), I don't see why the SSD won't fit inside the caddy used for the HDD. But that's the problem. The SSD is 7mm typical. The drive bays are 9.5mm or 12.5mm. All the SSDs I've bought so far, *none* had the 2mm spacer. A couple of the products, were supposed to have spacers, and there was no spacer in the box. (A box with a sticker type "seal".) The rubber rails may seek to "center" the drive, rather than reference one surface of the drive to the chassis. If the drive slid along the plastic chassis, all you'd need is the spacer on top to prevent it from flopping around. If it's centered in the rubber rails, the alignment could be off. Just a warning that the project might not go as planned (unless you had a carrier intended for the purpose). Especially if (like me), the SSD box has no 2mm spacer. And the 2mm spacer is prefaced on all (deserving) laptops having a 9.5mm bay. If the bay was 12.5mm, chances are the laptop would use an "old slow" processor, and a customer (apparently) would not seek to improve the performance of an older laptop product. So if the bay was intended for 12.5mm, you'd need some other kind of spacer. If you push the assembly back into the laptop, and it won't go in the last eighth of an inch, that means the connector could be binding and not capturing properly. So this is basically a "dimensional" warning. Yes, you can buy an SSD. Yes, the SATA connector on the 2.5" drives matches a 2.5" HDD. But if the laptop manufacturer makes a "clever" method for mounting the storage device, there could be challenges while inserting it, or challenges protecting it from mechanical shock while in there. An unsupported SSD, if the laptop was dropped, there's a (very small) risk the PCB could be damaged. While SSDs nominally have a high shock rating, this really only applies if the assembly is well supported, so nothing gets flexed too much. My laptop has a metal tray and four drive screws, and they confine the drive and provide the correct alignment. It really needs the spacer ring, to be fitted properly, but I've been running it without the spacer. Paul |
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Can Lenovo T500 laptop accept a Samsung SSD ?
Paul wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Since the dimensions for an SSD should be the same for an HDD (just be sure the SSD isn't any thicker than the HDD), I don't see why the SSD won't fit inside the caddy used for the HDD. But that's the problem. The SSD is 7mm typical. The drive bays are 9.5mm or 12.5mm. Being THINNER is okay. The mounting screw holes will still be positioned the same on the SSD as on the HDD. The drive does not need to fill the entire bay. The videos show the SSD getting screwed into a cage, and it's the cage (with rubber rails pushed on) that slides into the recess in the laptop. Unless the screws are loose, the SSD isn't going to flop around since it isn't loose. https://www.snia.org/forums/sssi/knowledge/formfactors Width and length are fixed for the SSD to match the same-sized HDD. The drives must fit that are the same form factor. It's only the height that varies. So make sure the SSD isn't thicker than the HDD. Thinner is just fine. The mounting holes in the SSD match those in the HDD. When I go to buy an SSD, the only sizing factor by which I can choose is different heights. Width and length are not choices. Why does the drive bay need to get filled up because the SSD is thinner than an HDD? No one needs a can of expanding foam sealant to fill up a drive bay. There are 3.5" and 2.5" full, half, and low profile form factors, but that doesn't alter width and length. Yes, a 7 mm thick SSD or HDD would be 2 mm less thick than a 2.5" low-profile bay or cage but why does that 2 mm have to get filled up? 2.5" form factor dimensions (whether HDD or SSD or whatever drive type): Height = 5, 7, 9.5, 12.5, 15, or 19 mm Width = 69.85 mm Length = 100 mm Seems the only sizing of concern is that the SSD (new) is the same height, or LESS, than the HDD (old). The SSD the OP wants is, for example, listed at: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16820147685 ($120, free shipping) which says the dimensions are (same for 256 GB to 4 TB models): Height = 7 mm Width = 70 mm Depth = 100 mm Samsung's own specs are at: https://www.samsung.com/us/computing...76P256BW#specs which uses English instead of metric measurements, which a Height = 0.27" (or 6.858 mm) Width = 2.75" (or 69.85 mm Depth = 3.94" (or 100.076 mm) So it's a 2.5" for factored drive with 7 mm height. Apparently the HDD in the laptop is the same 2.5" form factored drive but with 9 mm height. So why won't a 7 mm high drive of same width and length fit into a 9 mm bay or cage? The screw holes MUST be in the same positions; else, every drive would need an adapter cage to fit into the standard screw positions in the bays. The videos show the SSD getting screwed into the cage used to hold the HDD. Are you saying those videos are rigged and the T500 instead uses a cage that snaps around the SSD instead of screwing onto it? The only dimension the OP needs to watch out for is the thickness. Since the drive cage takes up to a 9 mm high HDD, the SSD cannot be any thicker than 9 mm. Just became Lenovo sells a 2 mm shim doesn't mean it is required. That's for jobbers that just must stay compliant with everything Lenovo, which means they also buy all parts from Lenovo. That's like folks that just must get the exact same drive by brand and model for something old, so they're willing to be a ridiculously high storage surcharge for someone that has stored that exact brand and model for decades. |
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