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  #31  
Old July 30th 04, 05:27 PM
Teilhard Knight
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?

I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna


Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel. Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants control of
the main disk.

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  #32  
Old July 30th 04, 05:27 PM
Teilhard Knight
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?

I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna


Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel. Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants control of
the main disk.

--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial

Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox


  #33  
Old July 30th 04, 05:27 PM
Pegasus
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?


"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna


Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel. Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants control

of
the main disk.


What you say is what most people believe. The facts say otherwise.
I have several machines that have various flavours of Windows fully
installed in logical drives, that is boot files + Windows directory +
apps directory all residing on a logical drive, on the primary or
secondary master or slave disk. They boot very nicely. I recommend
you try it for yourself - it works extremely nicely!


  #34  
Old July 30th 04, 05:27 PM
Pegasus
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?


"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna


Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel. Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants control

of
the main disk.


What you say is what most people believe. The facts say otherwise.
I have several machines that have various flavours of Windows fully
installed in logical drives, that is boot files + Windows directory +
apps directory all residing on a logical drive, on the primary or
secondary master or slave disk. They boot very nicely. I recommend
you try it for yourself - it works extremely nicely!


  #35  
Old July 30th 04, 05:27 PM
Pegasus
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?


"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna


Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel. Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants control

of
the main disk.


What you say is what most people believe. The facts say otherwise.
I have several machines that have various flavours of Windows fully
installed in logical drives, that is boot files + Windows directory +
apps directory all residing on a logical drive, on the primary or
secondary master or slave disk. They boot very nicely. I recommend
you try it for yourself - it works extremely nicely!


  #36  
Old August 1st 04, 05:19 PM
Teilhard Knight
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?

"Pegasus" wrote in message
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"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
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I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna


Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel. Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants control

of
the main disk.


What you say is what most people believe. The facts say otherwise.
I have several machines that have various flavours of Windows fully
installed in logical drives, that is boot files + Windows directory +
apps directory all residing on a logical drive, on the primary or
secondary master or slave disk. They boot very nicely. I recommend
you try it for yourself - it works extremely nicely!


Huh. Perhaps if you tell me with a little more detail what you do, I will
learn something I'll be delighted with. I tried to install Win 98 SE in my
master HD in the secondary channel, and it didn't boot, even using a primary
partition. I am using Xosl. The first problem I face with logical partitions
is that the installer sees the partition and that accepts to install there.

Teilhard.


  #37  
Old August 1st 04, 11:07 PM
Pegasus
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?


"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
"Pegasus" wrote in message
...

"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna

Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel.

Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants

control
of
the main disk.


What you say is what most people believe. The facts say otherwise.
I have several machines that have various flavours of Windows fully
installed in logical drives, that is boot files + Windows directory +
apps directory all residing on a logical drive, on the primary or
secondary master or slave disk. They boot very nicely. I recommend
you try it for yourself - it works extremely nicely!


Huh. Perhaps if you tell me with a little more detail what you do, I will
learn something I'll be delighted with. I tried to install Win 98 SE in my
master HD in the secondary channel, and it didn't boot, even using a

primary
partition. I am using Xosl. The first problem I face with logical

partitions
is that the installer sees the partition and that accepts to install

there.

Teilhard.


There are two issues he
a) What the installer will do
b) What the boot process will do.

a) The Installer
Win9x products will cheerfully install into drive C:, regardless of whether
it is a primary or logical partition. The trick then is to use XOSL to hide
all partitions BELOW the target partition before installing Win9x. In other
words, the target partition MUST be visible as drive C:.

WinNT/2000/XP is different: AFAIR, it will not install in a logical drive.
This can be overcome with a little trick: Install it into a primary
partition,
then port it into a logical drive, using imaging techniques. DriveImage,
TrueImage or even ZIP can be used. Again you must make sure that
the target partition is the FIRST visible partition. The shared data
partition
must always come AFTER the OS partition.

b) The Boot Process
You need to consider two points:
- If the OS partition resides on a disk other than the primary
master disk then you must instruct XOSL to swap disks. It's
a tick box in the XOSL setup menu.

- If the OS partition resides on a logical drive then you must
use a tool such as ptedit.exe (ftp://ftp.powerquest.com/pub/utilities/)
to adjust the number of hidden sectors of this partition. This sounds
daunting, but it is actually very easy and harmless. Post again if you
would like full details on how it's done.

If you spend some time playing with this then I'm sure you will be
pleased with the newly gained freedom of being able to install any
Microsoft OS into any partition on any drive!


  #38  
Old August 2nd 04, 01:37 AM
Pegasus
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Default Wanted dual boot - I think?


"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
"Pegasus" wrote in message
...

"Teilhard Knight" wrote in message
...
I know I have been missing something because we aren't
able to boot to the second hard drive.
Thank you for all your help.
Wauna

Microsoft OSs can only boot from the master in the primary channel.

Xosl
cannot help about that. It is one of Bill Gates' whims. He wants

control
of
the main disk.


What you say is what most people believe. The facts say otherwise.
I have several machines that have various flavours of Windows fully
installed in logical drives, that is boot files + Windows directory +
apps directory all residing on a logical drive, on the primary or
secondary master or slave disk. They boot very nicely. I recommend
you try it for yourself - it works extremely nicely!


Huh. Perhaps if you tell me with a little more detail what you do, I will
learn something I'll be delighted with. I tried to install Win 98 SE in my
master HD in the secondary channel, and it didn't boot, even using a

primary
partition. I am using Xosl. The first problem I face with logical

partitions
is that the installer sees the partition and that accepts to install

there.

Teilhard.


Further to my previous post: If you move WinNT/2000/XP partitions
about then you will have to adjust boot.ini in order to reflect the correct
partition number. When dealing with an NTFS partition then you could
edit this file in a number of ways:
- By booting from a WinXP installation in a primary partition;
- By using the Command Console
- By running the disk as a slave disk in some other WinXP PC
- By booting with a Bart PE CD (which is a very handy tool to have!)


 




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