IE11 it's a long story

"Jim S" wrote in message
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I am on W7 and have the original discs without SP1 (or whatever it was
called). I also have Office 2010 installed.
While installing IE from windows update, something went wrong.
Let me say at this point that I don't use IE as my default browser, but I
can access IE 'settings' by going via IEtab in both Firefox and Chrome.
However when I attempt to use Outlook or Access I get a message saying
that I need IE 4.01 or later.
If I attempt to use IE11 32 or 64 versions the window (border) opens then
I get an error message saying that IE has stopped working and window is
trying to find the solution and if I cancel this it happens a second time.
I have taken advice in both the IE and Outlook newsgroups, I have used the
various fix-its supplied by MS, I have tried uninstalling recent updates.
If I try to install IE11 from a download I am told that a more recent
version exists.
At one point I was able to re-set to default, but it didn't really help.
Now I cannot get Internet Options to respond even by going directly
through Control Panel.
I can see a complete reinstall on the horizon, but I have so much stuff
installed I am petrified at the thought.
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk

Having waded through this post, can I put in my two penny'worth :-)

Yours seems to be possibly, (initially), a HARDWARE problem !!!

It could be that your Windows hives are being corrupted in RAM during
boot-up,
....so you first need to establish that ALL hardware is ROBUST and RELIABLE,
before launching into software problems investigations ! :-)

best regards, Richard

As some of you will remember (Paul, Mick at al), I reinstalled Windows 7
courtesy of a digitalriver W7-SP1 download.
At the time it asked me for a registration code and it accepted a number I
gave it from the Dell W7 disc wrapper. Now it is asking me for a code and
won't accept that one and mentions 27 days grace.
My Dell pc came with W7 pre-installed and although it makes reference to a
label on/under the computer I cannot find one.
Can anyone help?
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk

Jim S wrote:
As some of you will remember (Paul, Mick at al), I reinstalled Windows 7
courtesy of a digitalriver W7-SP1 download.
At the time it asked me for a registration code and it accepted a number I
gave it from the Dell W7 disc wrapper. Now it is asking me for a code and
won't accept that one and mentions 27 days grace.
My Dell pc came with W7 pre-installed and although it makes reference to a
label on/under the computer I cannot find one.
Can anyone help?

A COA sticker may exist on an older computer. Some
laptops hide the sticker in the battery bay - that
was done because when externally mounted, it was
taking too much damage from friction and abrasion.
Many people can find their COA, but the key printed
on there has long since been erased by the ravages of
time.

It wouldn't help if I gave you an "install-only" key, because
they're only to aid in completing the installation step.
You've completed the install.

You would not start an installation, without COA in hand.
And there's not generally a way to validate keys, because
if there was such a web site, hackers would "bang on it 24/7"
trying keys until they "got a hit". That's why Microsoft
cannot offer such a service.

While you can re-arm your current install with slmgr, that's
not really a solution as far as I'm concerned. Now, either you
reload the OS from the partition that came originally on the
Dell hard drive, use the DVDs the Dell OS made you burn when the
computer was new, use a DVD provided by Dell (sometimes those
costs $50, if they're still available). Machines originally
shipped with WinXP or Windows 7, likely would have a COA on
the outside somewhere. Windows 8 uses a BIOS inspired scheme,
where a key is kept in the BIOS rather than just a SLIC table.
So I don't think a Windows 8 PC (as shipped) is going to have
a COA. In such a case, you might be "stuck at Windows 8" unless
you throw more money at the situation. If a machine shipped
from Dell with Windows 8 Pro, then Microsoft may grand
downgrade privileges for that. In which case, at least
on the surface, you'd be "owed a COA by Microsoft" in that
case. Somewhere, you'd need to get that BIOS key, on the
theory a similar version of Windows 7 would accept that key.

If you think the key on the Dell DVD is legitimate, then
you could try phoning Microsoft and activating it manually.
That's another possibility. Microsoft should provide free
tech support for activation issues. It's their activation
after all.

You can use slmgr to tell Windows to accept a new key.
But you've already entered the only key you have on hand,
which was the one on the Dell DVD sleeve, so I don't
see any point now, discussing a key change. If you found
the COA sticker, then we could go down that road.

And if you'd pulled the original key from the installed
OS, that wouldn't have helped you either. I don't think
those are suitable for new installations. At least, I've
never read of any successful attempts doing it that way.
There is a reason there's a COA on the outside of the
computer, and that's to cover a "non-Dell install".

That's what I did here. I have an Acer laptop. It came with
Windows 7. It also came with a COA sticker with a key on it
(not in the battery bay, right on the bottom of the machine).
Using that COA, and a downloaded digitalriver Win7 SP1
DVD, I was able to reinstall Windows 7 and remove all
vestiges of the Acer OEM OS. The OS installation prompted
me to phone Microsoft, and exchange 56 digit numbers. The
laptop displays a 56 digit number, I enter that into the
automated phone service, the automated service "speaks" a
56 digit response. When that string of digits is keyed into
the laptop, that completed activation. No problems since.

Paul

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:28:37 -0500, Paul wrote:

Jim S wrote:
As some of you will remember (Paul, Mick at al), I reinstalled Windows 7
courtesy of a digitalriver W7-SP1 download.
At the time it asked me for a registration code and it accepted a number I
gave it from the Dell W7 disc wrapper. Now it is asking me for a code and
won't accept that one and mentions 27 days grace.
My Dell pc came with W7 pre-installed and although it makes reference to a
label on/under the computer I cannot find one.
Can anyone help?

SNIP

Paul

Panic over!
I found the label and it works :-)
--
Jim S
Tyneside UK
www.jimscott.co.uk

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:28:37 -0500, Paul wrote:

Windows 8 uses a BIOS inspired scheme,
where a key is kept in the BIOS rather than just a SLIC table.
So I don't think a Windows 8 PC (as shipped) is going to have
a COA.

Hu, I didn't know that.

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-gufus
Thou Shalt NOT excessively annoy others or
allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:32:23 +0000, Jim S wrote:

Panic over!
I found the label and it works :-)

IMO, Image your computer soon 'er than latter.

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-gufus
Thou Shalt NOT excessively annoy others or
allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed

gufus wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:28:37 -0500, Paul wrote:

Windows 8 uses a BIOS inspired scheme,
where a key is kept in the BIOS rather than just a SLIC table.
So I don't think a Windows 8 PC (as shipped) is going to have
a COA.

Hu, I didn't know that.


I want to get comments from a Win 8 Pro owner, who
downgraded to Windows 7. Just to find out what it
took to do the job. On the surface of it, having a
key in the BIOS isn't too useful (like, when downgrading
and wanting to use a Win 7 DigitalRiver DVD). The BIOS could
have both a SLIC table as well as the new license key,
so that's one possibility.

Paul

In message , gufus
writes:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:32:23 +0000, Jim S wrote:

Panic over!
I found the label and it works :-)

IMO, Image your computer soon 'er than latter.

At least, take an image (with a camera or scanner) of that label!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Odds are, the phrase "It's none of my business" will be followed by "but".

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:19:24 -0500, Paul wrote:

The BIOS could
have both a SLIC table as well as the new license key,
so that's one possibility.

Ya, I wounder too. Not like I care about W8 (I don't)


--
-gufus
Thou Shalt NOT excessively annoy others or
allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed

gufus wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:19:24 -0500, Paul wrote:

The BIOS could
have both a SLIC table as well as the new license key,
so that's one possibility.

Ya, I wounder too. Not like I care about W8 (I don't)

It has its moments.

I find myself booting Windows 8, when something won't work
in any other OS. That means I have to exhaust a lot of
other possibilities first, before it gets to run :-)

I have a collection of hammers here, in my tool chest,
and Windows 8 is roughly the equivalent of the "rubber mallet".
You can't drive a nail with it, and it's good when something
needs a "soft tap" :-)

Paul

On 2013-12-28, Paul wrote:
gufus wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:19:24 -0500, Paul wrote:

The BIOS could
have both a SLIC table as well as the new license key,
so that's one possibility.

Ya, I wounder too. Not like I care about W8 (I don't)

It has its moments.

I find myself booting Windows 8, when something won't work
in any other OS. That means I have to exhaust a lot of
other possibilities first, before it gets to run :-)

What the **** would you need Windows8 for?
Nobody needs it, less want it.
It will sell like all Windows OSes do... the default OS on the PC.
Users are moving to Linux, to keep the PC "theirs".
Windows 8 is for short term renters.


I have a collection of hammers here, in my tool chest,
and Windows 8 is roughly the equivalent of the "rubber mallet".
You can't drive a nail with it, and it's good when something
needs a "soft tap" :-)


What the **** are you talking about?
Windows 8 is dead in the water.
It fills the need for Best Buy gurus.


--
Many people are desperately looking for some wise advice which will
recommend that they do what they want to do.

Paladin wrote:
On 2013-12-28, Paul wrote:
gufus wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:19:24 -0500, Paul wrote:

The BIOS could
have both a SLIC table as well as the new license key,
so that's one possibility.
Ya, I wounder too. Not like I care about W8 (I don't)
It has its moments.

I find myself booting Windows 8, when something won't work
in any other OS. That means I have to exhaust a lot of
other possibilities first, before it gets to run :-)

What the **** would you need Windows8 for?
Nobody needs it, less want it.
It will sell like all Windows OSes do... the default OS on the PC.
Users are moving to Linux, to keep the PC "theirs".
Windows 8 is for short term renters.

I have a collection of hammers here, in my tool chest,
and Windows 8 is roughly the equivalent of the "rubber mallet".
You can't drive a nail with it, and it's good when something
needs a "soft tap" :-)


What the **** are you talking about?
Windows 8 is dead in the water.
It fills the need for Best Buy gurus.

I spent eight hours yesterday, working on a
"disk is unreadable" problem. When I used Linux,
it said "you must set cylinders". A thread
I found told me, the message in Linux means
you must set an entire set of CHS. But, I
couldn't figure out what exactly I was supposed
to set. There was no further illumination on
what the actual problem was. At the time, the disk
was "clean" and there were no partitions on it.
(Clean, from previous attempts to fix it.)

The funny thing was, Windows 8 was the *only* OS which
would allow me to work with that hard drive. Strange, but
true. Only Disk Management in Windows 8, would allow
me to put a new MBR on it.

Like a bag of hammers, when you've tried all the others,
you use whatever you've got until the problem is fixed.

I eventually fixed it another way (so all OSes could
agree it was fixed), using an Acronis True Image
rescue disc. But that's another story.
Most of the day was spent moving the data off
the drive, so I wouldn't lose anything.

I don't use Windows 8 all that often, but it
does come in handy if nothing else seems to work.

It'll never be an "every day" OS, because it's just
too annoying.

Paul

On 2013-12-28, Paul wrote:
Paladin wrote:
On 2013-12-28, Paul wrote:
gufus wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 19:19:24 -0500, Paul wrote:

The BIOS could
have both a SLIC table as well as the new license key,
so that's one possibility.
Ya, I wounder too. Not like I care about W8 (I don't)
It has its moments.

I find myself booting Windows 8, when something won't work
in any other OS. That means I have to exhaust a lot of
other possibilities first, before it gets to run :-)

What the **** would you need Windows8 for?
Nobody needs it, less want it.
It will sell like all Windows OSes do... the default OS on the PC.
Users are moving to Linux, to keep the PC "theirs".
Windows 8 is for short term renters.

I have a collection of hammers here, in my tool chest,
and Windows 8 is roughly the equivalent of the "rubber mallet".
You can't drive a nail with it, and it's good when something
needs a "soft tap" :-)


What the **** are you talking about?
Windows 8 is dead in the water.
It fills the need for Best Buy gurus.

I spent eight hours yesterday, working on a
"disk is unreadable" problem. When I used Linux,
it said "you must set cylinders". A thread
I found told me, the message in Linux means
you must set an entire set of CHS. But, I
couldn't figure out what exactly I was supposed
to set. There was no further illumination on
what the actual problem was. At the time, the disk
was "clean" and there were no partitions on it.
(Clean, from previous attempts to fix it.)

LOL.
You are full of ****.


The funny thing was, Windows 8 was the *only* OS which
would allow me to work with that hard drive. Strange, but
true. Only Disk Management in Windows 8, would allow
me to put a new MBR on it.

LMaO.
That is funny.


Like a bag of hammers, when you've tried all the others,
you use whatever you've got until the problem is fixed.

I eventually fixed it another way (so all OSes could
agree it was fixed), using an Acronis True Image
rescue disc. But that's another story.
Most of the day was spent moving the data off
the drive, so I wouldn't lose anything.

I don't use Windows 8 all that often, but it
does come in handy if nothing else seems to work.

It'll never be an "every day" OS, because it's just
too annoying.


LMAO.
You type any nonsense that enters your head
LOL.


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Many people are desperately looking for some wise advice which will
recommend that they do what they want to do.

On 12/27/2013, Paul posted:
Paladin wrote:
On 2013-12-28, Paul wrote:

Paul, I see you haven't noticed Paladin before...

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:10:42 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 12/27/2013, Paul posted:
Paladin wrote:
On 2013-12-28, Paul wrote:

Paul, I see you haven't noticed Paladin before...

He/She was added to my killfile yesterday...
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-gufus
Thou Shalt NOT excessively annoy others or
allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed