W7 / Livemail

Hi

A few days ago, I installed/..."dragged up to date" W7 Home Premium/inc.SP1,
(plus 111+ MS updates since that W7 SP1 - including IE versions 9,10 & 11
that all wanted to be installed all at the same time - hence KNACKERING the
aforementioned W7 installation - ....so ....as recently advised by Paul -
in so many words - "...don't let it pile in all in at once" ...so I started
all over again, NOT letting it all pile in all at once, and ALL was LOVELY !
:-), ...onto a new 60gb Kingston flashdrive in my Aunts' PC that contains an
antique Asus AliveNF6P-VSTA motherboard with an AMD Athlon dual core 5600+
cpu ....why do I drone on about what's in it ? !!! .....it's such fun
trying to keep track of hardware drivers / what's in it / where are they /
.....I suppose in another few years I'll be trying to find possibly non
existent drivers for a newer Windows platform, for the £10 USB 3.0 pcie x1
expansion card I put in it a few days ago !

....anyhoo, .....ALL went well with Aunt's "upgrade" to W7 Home Premium,
....until a couple of days later, Aunty 'phoned to say that a folder
containing a few emails, (...emails were transplanted from her XP Home ed.'s
OE6 using W7's "Easy Transfer wizard"), ...have not been "transferred."

Now, ...I've been there before !!! ...and I seem to remember an
incompatibility between XP Home edition's OE6 email "export" , and W7's
LiveMail email's newer "import" !!! but, that was quite a while ago when I
was trying to export/import emails from my XP Home editions/OE6 into my W7
Ultimate's LiveMail ! ...which I successfully did but, now cannot remember
how !

....any thoughts hugely appreciated,

regards, Richard

RJK wrote:
Hi

A few days ago, I installed/..."dragged up to date" W7 Home Premium/inc.SP1,
(plus 111+ MS updates since that W7 SP1 - including IE versions 9,10 & 11
that all wanted to be installed all at the same time - hence KNACKERING the
aforementioned W7 installation - ....so ....as recently advised by Paul -
in so many words - "...don't let it pile in all in at once" ...so I started
all over again, NOT letting it all pile in all at once, and ALL was LOVELY !
:-), ...onto a new 60gb Kingston flashdrive in my Aunts' PC that contains an
antique Asus AliveNF6P-VSTA motherboard with an AMD Athlon dual core 5600+
cpu ....why do I drone on about what's in it ? !!! .....it's such fun
trying to keep track of hardware drivers / what's in it / where are they /
....I suppose in another few years I'll be trying to find possibly non
existent drivers for a newer Windows platform, for the £10 USB 3.0 pcie x1
expansion card I put in it a few days ago !

...anyhoo, .....ALL went well with Aunt's "upgrade" to W7 Home Premium,
...until a couple of days later, Aunty 'phoned to say that a folder
containing a few emails, (...emails were transplanted from her XP Home ed.'s
OE6 using W7's "Easy Transfer wizard"), ...have not been "transferred."

Now, ...I've been there before !!! ...and I seem to remember an
incompatibility between XP Home edition's OE6 email "export" , and W7's
LiveMail email's newer "import" !!! but, that was quite a while ago when I
was trying to export/import emails from my XP Home editions/OE6 into my W7
Ultimate's LiveMail ! ...which I successfully did but, now cannot remember
how !

...any thoughts hugely appreciated,

regards, Richard







First Windows Live Mail is not a Windows 7 component. It requires a
separate desktop installation. On first use, if it finds an OE store in
the user profile it will automigrate messages into WLM's Storage
folders. If WLM was on the previous install (XP or Vista) and the pc
upgraded the mail would remain intact without the need to migrate since
the client would already marked the 'migration bit' as complete.

Second, OE doesn't export to WLM - only Outlook and Exchange thus OE6
email export would not apply.

Third, W7's Easy Transfer Wizard was written with WLMail in mind thus
what you see is what you get. If access to XP OE entire message store
is still available then it may be possible to import the balance of
messages into WLMail's Storage folders and subsequently moved (copy
should not be done since it creates a double indexing problem - moving
causes index to delete the items from the existing index and create a
new entry in the index for the destination location).

If the quantity of emails are small and previously saved as eml files
external to Win7(or still availaber for saving externally on the XP
unit) then they can be just dragged into the desired folder in WLMail.

Attempting to export messages from a saved copy of OE's entire message
store after previous migration (via WLM finding OE's Store or Easy
Transfer) may result in duplicate emails in the destination
location..thus if doing so, it would be appropriate to copy all the
existing messages to a user created folder external to WLMails 'Storage
folders/Imported folders', verify the copies are present and intact,
then delete the entire Imported folders subfolder. Once done, compare
the original migration/import with the new import for the missing
messages. If present copy the missing to the appropriate folder then
organize all messages into the desired folders/user created subfolders
in the user's email account(s), once done delete any remaining
duplicates. Optionally one can create new subfolders in the Storage
folders for archive purposes and start the new Win7 WLMail email account
with clean Inbox, Sent, Deleted Items folder.

Without further information (version of WLM, single or multiple email
accounts, etc.) you'll have to make a decision on the best approach method.
Note: Like all versions of WLMail each email account has a separate set
of default folders, unlike OE which lumped all email accounts into a
single folder structure (Inbox, Deleted, Sent, etc.).

If you need additional information or can provide more info not already
supplied feel free to ask or add.


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

""...winston?"" wrote in message
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RJK wrote:
Hi

A few days ago, I installed/..."dragged up to date" W7 Home
Premium/inc.SP1,
(plus 111+ MS updates since that W7 SP1 - including IE versions 9,10 & 11
that all wanted to be installed all at the same time - hence KNACKERING
the
aforementioned W7 installation - ....so ....as recently advised by
Paul -
in so many words - "...don't let it pile in all in at once" ...so I
started
all over again, NOT letting it all pile in all at once, and ALL was
LOVELY !
:-), ...onto a new 60gb Kingston flashdrive in my Aunts' PC that contains
an
antique Asus AliveNF6P-VSTA motherboard with an AMD Athlon dual core
5600+
cpu ....why do I drone on about what's in it ? !!! .....it's such fun
trying to keep track of hardware drivers / what's in it / where are they
/
....I suppose in another few years I'll be trying to find possibly non
existent drivers for a newer Windows platform, for the £10 USB 3.0 pcie
x1
expansion card I put in it a few days ago !

...anyhoo, .....ALL went well with Aunt's "upgrade" to W7 Home Premium,
...until a couple of days later, Aunty 'phoned to say that a folder
containing a few emails, (...emails were transplanted from her XP Home
ed.'s
OE6 using W7's "Easy Transfer wizard"), ...have not been "transferred."

Now, ...I've been there before !!! ...and I seem to remember an
incompatibility between XP Home edition's OE6 email "export" , and W7's
LiveMail email's newer "import" !!! but, that was quite a while ago when
I
was trying to export/import emails from my XP Home editions/OE6 into my
W7
Ultimate's LiveMail ! ...which I successfully did but, now cannot
remember
how !

...any thoughts hugely appreciated,

regards, Richard







First Windows Live Mail is not a Windows 7 component. It requires a
separate desktop installation. On first use, if it finds an OE store in
the user profile it will automigrate messages into WLM's Storage folders.
If WLM was on the previous install (XP or Vista) and the pc upgraded the
mail would remain intact without the need to migrate since the client
would already marked the 'migration bit' as complete.

Second, OE doesn't export to WLM - only Outlook and Exchange thus OE6
email export would not apply.

Third, W7's Easy Transfer Wizard was written with WLMail in mind thus what
you see is what you get. If access to XP OE entire message store is still
available then it may be possible to import the balance of messages into
WLMail's Storage folders and subsequently moved (copy should not be done
since it creates a double indexing problem - moving causes index to delete
the items from the existing index and create a new entry in the index for
the destination location).

If the quantity of emails are small and previously saved as eml files
external to Win7(or still availaber for saving externally on the XP unit)
then they can be just dragged into the desired folder in WLMail.

Attempting to export messages from a saved copy of OE's entire message
store after previous migration (via WLM finding OE's Store or Easy
Transfer) may result in duplicate emails in the destination location..thus
if doing so, it would be appropriate to copy all the existing messages to
a user created folder external to WLMails 'Storage folders/Imported
folders', verify the copies are present and intact, then delete the entire
Imported folders subfolder. Once done, compare the original
migration/import with the new import for the missing messages. If present
copy the missing to the appropriate folder then organize all messages into
the desired folders/user created subfolders in the user's email
account(s), once done delete any remaining duplicates. Optionally one can
create new subfolders in the Storage folders for archive purposes and
start the new Win7 WLMail email account with clean Inbox, Sent, Deleted
Items folder.

Without further information (version of WLM, single or multiple email
accounts, etc.) you'll have to make a decision on the best approach
method.
Note: Like all versions of WLMail each email account has a separate set of
default folders, unlike OE which lumped all email accounts into a single
folder structure (Inbox, Deleted, Sent, etc.).

If you need additional information or can provide more info not already
supplied feel free to ask or add.


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Many thanks for you very comprehensive response ! ...I will read through it
much more slowly and carefully after this post.
....first thing I noticed/realised is that I used the word "upgrade" in the
wrong "sense". ...was NOT using an upgrade version of W7, i.e. Aunty's is a
fresh install of W7 Home Premium. (which is why I have used W7's "Easy
Transfer" wizard.

I knew that Windows LiveMail was/is a separate download, and indeed one had
downloaded and installed it prior to running W7's "Easy Transfer" Wizard, to
"pile in" 'to W7 all that was gathered up in the XP Home ed. archive created
by W7's "Easy Transfer" wizard, (installed/run in W7 from external
hard-disk).
After W7's "Easy File Transfer" ("this is the new PC"), had run, and after
quickly casting an eye around Windows Live Mail to check that it had done
it's usually good job of duplicating emails accounts, and immigrating OE6's
emails/email folders, all seemed okay until Aunty 'phoned to say that an OE6
folder and its' emails, (from XP), seemed to be missing.
I have not sat in front of aforementioned PC since her 'phone call,
......actually it was an email where she mentioned that a group of emails
seemed to be missing, but, I will be visiting there tomorrow and will be
casting an eye over her W7's Windows Live Mail ! ....now let me read you
more thoroughly ! :-)

regards Richard