O.T. - Connection Problem:

Mark Twain wrote:
So back to the drawing board,...

Robert

I'm not trying to spoil your fun.

If you want to reinstall the OS, reinstall
the NIC driver, fool around with the protocol
entries, go right ahead. As long as you still
have your backup, you have nothing to worry about.

My problem is, I'm not convinced any of those
options will work. If you reinstall the OS, you
will (eventually) use some software you were using
before, and it's going to mess things up again.

I have the same problem here. A problem on my WinXP
install, which comes back when I reinstall the programs
on a cleanly installed OS.

Paul

No, I don't want to reinstall the OS,
or make any changes unless directed
by you.

So,...... is my Winlogon also waiting
for disks?


• Can the 0BxE return?
• could I of gotten it reading a news story?
• could this possibly be a 'hidden cell' that
could later take over my computer?

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
No, I don't want to reinstall the OS,
or make any changes unless directed
by you.

So,...... is my Winlogon also waiting
for disks?


• Can the 0BxE return?
• could I of gotten it reading a news story?
• could this possibly be a 'hidden cell' that
could later take over my computer?

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert

None of your symptoms suggest "bad guys"
at the moment.

You can try Adwcleaner if you like. But without
any symptoms pointing at adware, it would be
purely a coincidence if you found any.

And your desktop comes up normally, so you've
already passed the point of winlogon. And you're
waiting for the network icon to assume a normal
look.

removing programs, would be one way to try to isolate
the problem. Where that doesn't work, is if the
symptoms are not reproducible every time. Take
my problem as an example - it only exhibits the
symptoms once every 24 hours. So you cannot run more
than one test a day, as a second Explorer exit won't
happen. I've had intervals of two or three days
without symptoms. And that makes it hard to
nail down the culprit.

And the thing is, we know you own some programs
that have an "interest" in the network. Avast
has network-centric features. Even if the features
were turned off, that doesn't mean the software hasn't
installed a filter driver or whatever. Even the
"sandbox" feature, could be using a filter driver
for network activity. You may be using Cisco AnyConnect
for the VA (I'm not really sure if that's it or not).
So something like that could play a part. Or perhaps
at some point, you adjusted some network parameters for
some reason. The network stack is way too complicated
for comfort (there are all sorts of tuning parameters
you can play with too, which will shoot yourself
in the foot).

What we do know, is at least once the "limited connectivity"
showed up on the network icon, and that's because the OS
did the HTML test to ncsi, and no response came back. And
that's how it decides connectivity is limited. And the code 10,
could be related to Teredo (tunneling protocol for IPV6 to
IPV4 transport).

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
No, I don't want to reinstall the OS,
or make any changes unless directed
by you.

So,...... is my Winlogon also waiting
for disks?


• Can the 0BxE return?
• could I of gotten it reading a news story?
• could this possibly be a 'hidden cell' that
could later take over my computer?

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert



I think you already checked for Bonjour (mDNSresponder),
which is Apple software. There would be several items
in the Programs and Features for Apple, but the method
here removes just Bonjour by using its own removal option.
You could also use an Administrator Command Prompt window,
use the command, and see what happens. Using the QuickTime
installer again would put it back.

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-u...sresponderexe/

( cd /d C:\path\to\the\two\files... )

mDNSResponder.exe -remove
regsvr32 /u mdnsNSP.dll

I don't know if that one causes symptoms that exactly
match your problem though.

Paul

Well my desktop comes up normally with
the exception of the yellow triangles
with black exclamation marks and red X's
and startup is still slow.

Today I had the yellow triangle again
and I couldn't toggle(Alt-Tab) between
screens. I had to restart the 8500 (3)
times before it would toggle and then
yellow triangle disappeared.

I did a AdwCleaner scan :

http://i65.tinypic.com/2z59303.jpg - services

http://i63.tinypic.com/2ppj2x1.jpg - folders

http://i67.tinypic.com/1zwf96x.jpg - files

http://i67.tinypic.com/e67wwl.jpg - shortcuts

http://i63.tinypic.com/2elxgsw.jpg - registry

http://i64.tinypic.com/2isfty1.jpg - Internet Explorer

http://i68.tinypic.com/64ldh5.jpg - Firefox

Then ran it again:

http://i66.tinypic.com/106yald.jpg - FF

http://i67.tinypic.com/2usidcl.jpg - Chrome


Your intermittent problem sound allot like mine.
I don't recall 'adjusting' any settings or
parameters and I'm very leery of doing anything
of that kind for the very reasons you point out.

I downloaded Au Revior Bonjour:

http://i67.tinypic.com/28knghj.jpg - finished

http://i67.tinypic.com/2hchxjl.jpg - reboot?

I elected to manually reboot later and it gave me this

http://i63.tinypic.com/292th74.jpg - not installed correctly

I tried it twice with the same result.

I then tried to do it manually but I guess I'm not doing it
correctly:

http://i68.tinypic.com/34dg3zn.jpg - CMD command

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
Well my desktop comes up normally with
the exception of the yellow triangles
with black exclamation marks and red X's
and startup is still slow.

Today I had the yellow triangle again
and I couldn't toggle(Alt-Tab) between
screens. I had to restart the 8500 (3)
times before it would toggle and then
yellow triangle disappeared.

I did a AdwCleaner scan :

http://i65.tinypic.com/2z59303.jpg - services

http://i63.tinypic.com/2ppj2x1.jpg - folders

http://i67.tinypic.com/1zwf96x.jpg - files

http://i67.tinypic.com/e67wwl.jpg - shortcuts

http://i63.tinypic.com/2elxgsw.jpg - registry

http://i64.tinypic.com/2isfty1.jpg - Internet Explorer

http://i68.tinypic.com/64ldh5.jpg - Firefox

Then ran it again:

http://i66.tinypic.com/106yald.jpg - FF

http://i67.tinypic.com/2usidcl.jpg - Chrome


Your intermittent problem sound allot like mine.
I don't recall 'adjusting' any settings or
parameters and I'm very leery of doing anything
of that kind for the very reasons you point out.

I downloaded Au Revior Bonjour:

http://i67.tinypic.com/28knghj.jpg - finished

http://i67.tinypic.com/2hchxjl.jpg - reboot?

I elected to manually reboot later and it gave me this

http://i63.tinypic.com/292th74.jpg - not installed correctly

I tried it twice with the same result.

I then tried to do it manually but I guess I'm not doing it
correctly:

http://i68.tinypic.com/34dg3zn.jpg - CMD command

Robert

You can just dismiss the Program Compatibility Assistant.

And the results in your "finished" picture says
that the Bonjour files were not present. So that's
not it. You can't turn it off, if those files
are no longer present. The article should have
told you one of the files is mDNSresponder. Something
you could have checked for with Agent Ransack. That's
even a file I used to kill on my Mac :-) There was nothing
else on my home LAN for it to talk to.

That's the only other thing I ran into, as a suggestion
for screwed up networking. And I remembered you had QuickTime
installed on the system.

Paul

So it seems there's nothing there? but are
you saying Quicktime may have issues? Because
it's from Apple running on FF?

Robert

An added note; after restarting for
(in order to install Bonjour and after
the tests) the desktop had (3) FF screens
already opened,. one wanted me to start
a FF email account, the other was welcoming
me to FF, and I think the last one was blank
(normal).

Also, when clicked a new tab (I had all
these web page icon's and one of them was
Chrome (I've never used Chrome). I should of
taken a screenshot of it but I didn't think.

Now this behavior isn't normal and this is
the second time (I had to restart earlier
for the same reasons). I usually don't see all
those icons on the page because I don't like
using them. Usually, I only have Google there.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
So it seems there's nothing there? but are
you saying Quicktime may have issues? Because
it's from Apple running on FF?

Robert

OK, I just checked two installers.

The iTunes installer has Bonjour.msi (mDNSresponder).

The QuickTime installer only has AppleSoftwareUpdate and AppleApplicationSupport.
Neither of which has Bonjour.

So QuickTime alone should not cause a problem.

I thought maybe QuickTime needed a nameserver service,
for things like streaming or spotting DLNA devices
or something. I guess not.

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
An added note; after restarting for
(in order to install Bonjour and after
the tests) the desktop had (3) FF screens
already opened,. one wanted me to start
a FF email account, the other was welcoming
me to FF, and I think the last one was blank
(normal).

Also, when clicked a new tab (I had all
these web page icon's and one of them was
Chrome (I've never used Chrome). I should of
taken a screenshot of it but I didn't think.

Now this behavior isn't normal and this is
the second time (I had to restart earlier
for the same reasons). I usually don't see all
those icons on the page because I don't like
using them. Usually, I only have Google there.

Robert

It's possible Firefox updated to a new
version, and blanketed you with it's
newest features ? I think the version
is around 49 now or so.

I can't test anything right now, because the
Test Machine is stuck in Win10 Update Land.

Paul

I had version 47.0.1 of FF and upgraded to 48.0.1
and the same screens appeared. So my question is
how do I get around them or can I ?

I had a call ticket for the computer problem
but I had cancelled it when the computer re-connected
however today Frontier called and told me since
the ticket was issued they normally check to see
if a problem is there and they found one and were
calling to let me know and if I still could connect?

So in the light of this? Could that of been the cause
of my problems? Of course time will tell.

Robert

The many webpage icons returned when
I clicked a new tab. So it seems this
is tied to the FF pages somehow?


Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I had version 47.0.1 of FF and upgraded to 48.0.1
and the same screens appeared. So my question is
how do I get around them or can I ?

I had a call ticket for the computer problem
but I had cancelled it when the computer re-connected
however today Frontier called and told me since
the ticket was issued they normally check to see
if a problem is there and they found one and were
calling to let me know and if I still could connect?

So in the light of this? Could that of been the cause
of my problems? Of course time will tell.

Robert

Some of the Firefox problems can be fixed in
preferences, like defining a home page. You
can use things like this as a homepage.

aboutlugins
about:blank
about:support

There are some special URLs you can substitute
like those. I usually use plugins, as it
doesn't blink at me or anything.

Some of the Firefox prompts, like "Reader Mode",
you should be able to click "No" and not be
pestered any more.

Firefox also helps itself to telemetry, and
you can turn that off too if you want. Firefox
can send information about memory usage back
ro Mozilla, amongst other things.

If you have adware or a toolbar, there could
be other symptoms when the browser version
changes. I don't have any toolbars loaded here.

*******

Frontier could have a complete network outage.
In which case, the sync light might not be lit
on the modem.

Frontier could have a DNS failure. Packets go
back and forth as normal. But if it tries
to look up "www.yahoo.com", no 1.2.3.4 number
comes back.

If you regularly have DNS problems, you can switch
DNS providers.

http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/downloa...3 63203968000

( http://kb.mit.edu/confluence/display...s+on+Windows+7 )

Now, you don't use the MIT DNS :-) You can use
the Google public one if you want. It should
be reliable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Public_DNS

Google Public DNS for IPv4 service

8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

Google Public DNS for IPv6 service

2001:4860:4860::8888
2001:4860:4860::8844

Normally the dialog would look like the IPv4 flavor.

I have always left mine to the auto setting
and let DHCP get the info from my router.
The router gets its settings, by using DHCP
with the ISP router. So the automation passes
valid settings automatically... as long as DHCP
is working.

Paul

Mark Twain wrote:
The many webpage icons returned when
I clicked a new tab. So it seems this
is tied to the FF pages somehow?


Robert

Picture ?

Paul

I set my home page to about:blank

Changing providers in my area isn't
a viable option. I just switched from
Version to Frontier and its no different.
I also looked up reviews of some others
and they're all the same.

Didn't Avast have the Secureline VPN ?

I'll take a screen shot of the new tab
page next time it comes up butt it was
funny, because today when I clicked new
tab it didn't do it? Perhaps because I
did this after I changed the home page?

Robert